Obama IS SUPPORTING the filibuster. He just announced it on This Week

[Pirate Smile]

with George Stephenopolis (sp?).

[fujiyama]

1. Good news!

And good for him. :thumbsup:

[maddezmom]

2. thanks for the update

:hi:

[MelissaB]

3. YieeeHaaawwwwww!

:bounce:

[kpete]

5. YESSSSSS!!!!!!

[Wheezy]

4. woo hoo!

I'd heard that he was going to, but it's so nice when they announce it.

[H2O Man]

6. Thanks!

It's funny this was posted along with another message that was saying Obama is not supporting the effort. Disinformation is everywhere this weekend.

[Mass]

8. Actually he is not supportive, but he will vote NO on cloture.

It is basically what he said.

[Halliburton]

11. must've gotten bombarded with calls

[Pirate Smile]

12. I posted quickly on that thread but I figured many people would

miss it and assume from the subject line the Obama was opposing the filibuster so I decided to post a thread quick before a ton of negative Obama stuff started.

edit to add - I also didn't want people to start calling his offices all pissed off when he was on our side - perhaps not enthusiastically, but still supporting.

[H2O Man]

13. Could you please respond

to post #8, by Mass? I didn't see the segment, but I trust your judgement.

[Mass]

14. He said he would vote for the filibuster but was not supportive

of it.

I think we both agree.

[Pirate Smile]

17. We do agree.

[Mass]

20. What got me was when he complained that the Democrats in the

Senate were being too partisan and not working enough with the Republicans to get things accomplished.

Where has he been? Did he not see all these bills passed by both sides and that were rejected in the House?

[wakemewhenitsover]

37. If Obama isn't "supportive" of filibuster we don't support Obama.

He can forget anyone I know supporting his Presidential bid now.

[Pirate Smile]

16. He will vote against cloture. He didn't sound very happy about

it which is, I believe, how Mass meant "supportive". I had the same impression

He will vote against cloture though which is actually the important part.

[MODemocrat]

40. I posted one of those messages

because I'd seen it on Buzzflash; but I'm sure glad to hear they were wrong after all. My apologies
for posting it, perhaps prematurely. :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush:

[Mass]

7. Good news

but he was far from being supportive. He said clearly he was opposed to that and that he thought those who proposed that were wrong.

Of course, we all know that the best way to not have Alito would have been to have a Democratic President or a Democratic Senate. What is the point of repeating that again and again.

[Pirate Smile]

9. I'm glad you saw it also because I heard him say he would support

the filibuster but his words following it seemed almost ambiguous.

It made me question my ears for a second.

[MoonRiver]

10. I don't understand what these people are sooooo afraid of.

It only makes Democrats look good to block such a rw ideologue. :shrug:

[robbedvoter]

15. So, we got 14 now? Only 22 wafflewatch?

[debbierlus]

18. It they succeed, sorry WHEN they succeed

And, the Republicans become weaker and weaker and they realize that OUR strategy worked...

They will be strutting around as courageous fighters pretending that this was their idea all along.

Whatever, just so they do the right thing.

[drm604]

19. Where are you guys watching "This Week"?

It's not on till 10:30 in Philly. I always thought I was watching it live (pretty naive I guess).

[MelissaB]

21. It hasn't been on here yet either.

[drm604]

26. Okay, it's on here now. And it seems very clear what Obama is saying.

It seems very clear to me what he's saying. He said "I am supporting the filibuster". He then goes on to criticize the party for not making a strong enough case against Alito to begin with so that they are now forced to resort to last minute procedural tactics. He supports the filibuster but he doesn't support the actions that have brought them to the point where it is necessary. Am I right? It seems quite clear to me.

[sundancekid]

27. my exact read on Obama's message

[Coexist]

22. YES!!!!

[Totally Committed]

23. WTF were you watching?

that's not what I heard him say at all!

And I don't think he's right about working more with the Republicans either.

If this whole thing hasn't proved to us yet that BI-PARTISANSHIP IS DEAD, nothing should.

Remember what McCain said the other day: "Elections have consequences." For those who do not have the translation feature for Republicanese on their Words XP, that means "F*ck the bunch of you, we won, and we rule." Time to start letting them "rule" alone and fight them at every turn. Period.

No more nicey-nicey, Barack!

TC

[freedomfries]

24. thanks for posting

[Edgewater_Joe]

25. What Part Of "YES I WILL SUPPORT THE FILIBUSTER ..."

... don't you understand?

And what he said AFTER that, in essence, was that it was a shame we had to resort to this in order to stop him -- and more needs to be done in and out of Congress so that things like this need not be done.

He's doing the right thing and that's what counts.

[Totally Committed]

28. YOu know... where I am there are several of the Sunday programs on

at the same time. Switching over, I am told I missed that declaration, but truth be told....

what about the rest of that shameful interview along with it's cumbaya "let's cooperate with our Republican friends" bullsh*t message he was spouting would have led you to believe he said it, even if grudgingly?

I am still appalled. He needs to get his sh*t together and get correct on this issue if he wants more than one term in office. Ditch the DLC mind-set, Obama!

TC

[davsand]

30. I saw that interview and I saw a pragmatic assessment from Obama.

We ARE the minority party, and Obama is correct when he says the Dem party has got to do a better job of talking to the American public about why guys like Alito are wrong for all of America--not just the Dem party.

We don't win elections with tactics inside the beltway. We win elections by proving and demonstrating our vision for the country is a better (or more palatable) one.

I fully support this filibuster, but I also am pragmatic enough to see that its chances for success in blocking Alito are pretty small. Had the Dem party been out there in front all the way thru this mess, we might not BE in the position to even NEED a filibuster to make our point.

We can't just hope for people to see that that the Dem party is a better choice. We have GOT to demonstrate it. You can't rely on high moral ground to influence the voters every time, and the Dems make this mistake WAY too often.

The net result of that tactical error is we don't win elections and we have to resort to filibusters because we are a minority party.

I'm about as Dem as it gets, but all the bashing of Obama here at DU for wanting to try and move the nation forward by looking for consensus is just wrong. We send these guys to DC to get stuff done--and that means that when you are the minority party you have to work with the other party as a practical matter.

No, I am not a DLC person, and I'm about as liberal as it gets. What I also am, is somebody that has been at this long enough to know that you are still dead even IF you get buried on your high moral ground.

Obama did fine, IMO.


Laura

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

32. Actually I Think He Has His Shit Together Brilliantly. He Is Consistently

a brilliant speaker and acts with integrity. I find myself respecting his words 99% of the time, and there is no doubt in my mind he will win a second term, as he deserves to.

Why you find yourself appalled at him supporting the filibuster and speaking intelligent truth while displaying democratic party principles is beyond me.

[Edgewater_Joe]

33. He Said He Wanted To Work With "Reasonable Republicans"

So when nobody works with him, the conclusion will be clear for those still confused:

There are NO reasonable Repunkicans.

[Totally Committed]

36. There is no such thing as a "reasonable" Republican...

Even the DLC is beyond "reasonable" at this point.

Bi-Partisanship should be a dead issue! They are out to obliterate this Party, and we are still trying to find ways to work with them? Unbelieveable!

I would rather go down swinging than to stay on my knees hoping they spare me, thank you. This is war, and there is no working with the enemy, even the enemy within.

TC

[Kurovski]

42. I have given some consideration to Sen. Obama's comments

and believe that the Senate would not have had to resort to a filibuster if Alito were not a backtracking, lying, weaselly little skeezer in love with the idea of a Republican president as emperor.

Barack, grow a set. Even the moderates in Illinois who helped to vote you in are gonna want you a bit tougher by the time BushCo. is through with us.

Thanks for saying no to a dangerous crackpot on the Supreme Court.

[FreedomAngel82]

29. Yes yes!

[Angry Girl]

31. OK, let's get some others on board now!

No time to stop!

Click here for the Defeat Alito Kit:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x263988

[0007]

34. Fucking "A"

[Wordie]

35. If Obama's in, that is another step in the right direction! eom

[bajamary]

38. Remember, he voted for Connie

I did volunteer work for Obama here in my hometown of Chicago. But I rather doubt I'll do that again, as one of his first votes was an unconditional YES FOR CONNIE RICE.

Now as you know, Ms. Rice is one of the central architects of the WMD and rush to attack Iraq. And Obama, a very bright man, knew this quite well.

Thank God my other Senator, Dick Durbin, really is a man with some honor and a lot of guts.

Obama is not to be trusted. Keep your eyes wide open with this brother.

[MODemocrat]

39. Thanks, I needed that,

It literally made me sick when I saw that article, and was disappointed in Obama for a little while.
Maybe this "Alito" appointment will unite the senate democrats. :toast: :hi: :thumbsup: :dem:

[Nothing Without Hope]

41. This looks like a change of position - see this earlier thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x256402
thread title (1-27-06 GD-Alito): Buzzflash: OBAMA OPPOSES FILIBUSTER according to knowledgable source:

He didn't come out and announce firmly that he opposed the filibuster, but what he did do appeared to indicate it pretty clearly.

I think we need to keep telling him we want the filibuster and expressing our support for his position in doing all he can to support it.