Dem strategists called this WRONG. 90% of Dem voters OPPOSE Alito.

[blm]

There are at least 30% of Republican voters who oppose Alito or are unsure of him - Republicans for Choice and constitutionalists who don't believe in Unitary Executive know for SURE they don't want him.

For Dem strategists to spread the word to the Dem senators that filibuster is bad for the party, I CALL YOU ON YOUR BULLSHIT!


DU - please email and FAX these poll numbers to the waffling Dems and Rs like Snowe, Chaffee and Hagel.

ProSense thread on poll numbers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=264999&mesg_id=264999

[TayTay]

1. This is the fight we have been waiting for!

I hope the Sen. Dem caucus can read those numbers and understand that the 'base' who raised all that money in 2004 is serious about this. We don't expect a token fight, we expect a real opposition that is based on the merits and that says exactly why this guy should never ben on the Supreme Court.

[Pithy Cherub]

2. Lame strategists "workin' hard" to make dem strategist an oxymoron

Ughhhh! These particaular strategists can't catch a cold or a clue! :crazy:

[depakid]

7. The so called "strategists

Have lost 6 Congressional elections in a row- and they're bucking for a 7th.

I agree with the poster above- if they don't muster the support to stop this outrage- then their money is going to dry right up. Along with their support from independent voters.

Sometimes I'm convinced that these "strategists" are nothing but far right and corporate plants who want the Dems to stay out of power. They certainly have been putting forth their best efforts to make sure that's happened. With little or no accountability.

[Pithy Cherub]

12. These strategists should give total transparency

to how they make revenue from political and corporate campaigns. These parasitic strategists are sneering at lobbyists right now, but have some of the very same ethical lapses. We already know that they are protecting their revenue base and the current political power structure.

Where are the strategists that actually believe in the constitution, actual democracy and We the People? This political consultant/strategist class needs to have their motives scrutinized as much as the candidate that hires them.

[jillan]

3. blm - where did you get those stats?

If 90% of dem voters oppose Alito, and only a handful of their representatives are supporting
the filibuster (really supporting, not just feeling forced into supporting)
then we definitely don't have the right leaders in place.

This is going to be a very telling vote.

[blm]

4. ProSense posted a poll thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=264999&mesg_id=264999

[ProSense]

6. Thanks blm. It looks like you and I were on the same page, another link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=265479&mesg_id=265479

[blm]

9. We should FAX/EMAIL them AGAIN with these POLL NUMBERS.

.

[ProSense]

11. I've included the poll numbers in letters to

Senators Hagel, Obama and Conrad, and the DLC; working on others.

[ProSense]

22. Well, at least I know the DLC got the e-mail (auto response)

Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:49:06 -0500
From: "Democratic Leadership Council" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Thank you for your feedback
To:


Thank you for contacting us.

User feedback is always appreciated.

If you are waiting for a response to a technical question or problem,
we will get back to you as soon as possible.

[jsamuel]

5. CBS: 90% of Dems, 69% of Inds and 37% of Reps Oppose/Unsure of Alito

CBS News/New York Times Poll. Jan. 20-25, 2006. N=1,229 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3 (for all adults).



"As you may know, George W. Bush has nominated federal Judge Samuel A. Alito to serve on the U.S. Supreme Court. What do you think right now? Should the Senate vote to confirm Samuel Alito as a justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, or vote against Alito, or can't you say?"

Vote all adults (and by party)

Confirm 33% (Republicans 63%; Democrats 10%; Independents 31%)

Vote Against 18% (Republicans 2%; Democrats37%; Independents 13%)

Can't Say 46% (Republicans 33%; Democrats49%; Independents 52%)

Unsure 3% (Republicans 2%; Democrats 4%; Independents 4%)

My footnote: Totals from above
Opposed/unsure
37% Republican
90% Democrats
69% Independents

[Peace Patriot]

15. That's one hell of big "can't say/not sure"--49%. When combined with

the "no's"--total 57%--what it says to me is a big "vote of no confidence" both in Bush and in the war profiteering corporate news monopolies. People don't trust Bush, and they feel uninformed, misinformed and disinformed by the news monopolies.

It also gels with the consistent, relentless 60/40 disapproval of Bush and ALL OF BUSH'S POLICIES, across the board in all polls, with the policy disapproval going back two years (58% disapproval of the Iraq war, way back before the invasion-Feb. '03; 63% disapproval of torture "under any circumstances"-May '04; and even higher disapprovals on Social Security, the deficit, women's rights, etc.), and with Bush's personal approval ratings never being strong--except for a short period right after 9/11; not strong enough in 2004 to win the election (according to Zogby) and sinking like the Titanic this year (UNDER 40% almost all year).

It also gels with other kinds of statistics--for instance, the 60/40 Democratic blowout success in new voter registration in 2004.

I think it's well past time to ask: What's wrong with this picture?

I think the answer is Diebold and ES&S election theft machines--which 'counted' 80% of the votes in 2004, using 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY programming code, with virtually no audit/recount controls.

I also think it's time ask: Is it only Republicans who are getting "selected" by Diebold and ES&S?

Diebold and ES&S are both tightly connected to rightwing causes. Diebold was (until a month ago) headed by a Bush "Pioneer"--major Bush fundraiser and campaign chair. ES&S is a spinoff of Diebold and was initially funded by Howard Ahmanson, who also gave one million dollars to the far rightwing nutcase Chalcedon Foundation (you want to be scared? --read up on THEM).

These are the people counting our votes, friends. With not one peep of objection from our Democratic Party leadership. So....are they in cahoots? are they being blackmailed? are they afraid? are they merely corrupt?

[jsamuel]

20. Would someone please post the above post on DailyKos?

[ProSense]

21. I have all the data and will post it. n/t

[never_get_over_it]

8. The Dem Strategist

have called everyting wrong for several years now

[DearAbby]

10. Interesting poll, that we just have to share in our faxes

to those who are waffling on filibuster.

[ginnyinWI]

13. who are these people?

Donna Brazille, for instance? Bob Schrum? etc? Were they named, or just quoted blindly?

[Kahuna]

14. That's because they pay more attention to the polls are are

to them. They need to take principled positions and LEAD instead of following polls all the doggone time. People are sick of it.

[Armstead]

16. kick

[mom cat]

17. ANOTHER GREAT POST ON DEM "STRATEGISTS"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x265552

[eallen]

18. More & more, this is the party of constitutional liberty....

And the GOP is the party of social conservatism and intrusive government. We need to spread that message.

[rucky]

19. Who are these "Dem strategists"?

and where can I send them a little letter?

[KoKo]

23. You are speaking abot those Dem Strategists who LOST us Elections from

1992 onward, I presume?

Like, YEAH...DUH...why weren't they thrown out with the GARBAGE WAY BACK. My damned donations to this sorry, looser party went into their wallets and I want my money back. Sheesh...how many times can one lose and still appear on C-Span as a Party "Mover and Shaker" when folks like DLC/Think Tank Consultants are STILL RAKING IN THE BIG BUCKS OF OUR DONATIONS.

:puke: Take THAT...Ed Kilgore and the rest of you..

[ulysses]

24. who ARE these asshats?

Out of whose funds do they get paid?

[OneBlueSky]

25. the inescapable fact is that the Democratic Party is in sad shape . . .

either they don't understand the threat that BushCo poses to our democracy, or they don't care, or they're letting "political considerations" overrule their conscience . . . whatever the case, the Democratic role as the "loyal opposition" is nothing but a memory . . .

and damn, they make some stupid decisions at times! . . .

[TheVirginian]

26. Not sure does not mean oppose.

It does not mean oppose, and it does not mean confirm.

If 30% agree, 25% disagree, and 45% don't know, it would be just as wrong to say "75% agree and 25% disagree" than it would be to say "70% disagree and 30% agree".