Offcial Recall Obama Thread

[meisje]

yeeeeeeaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgh!

[blm]

1. Unproductive - he's still new and needs to grow - TV isn't easy and he

worded his position poorly. For that I am angry.

We have every right to be angry at this juncture, but no right to cannibalize our own at this time, especially for a mistake that TV doesn't make easier.

I thought his PERFORMANCE was deplorable, but recalling is just cannibalizing someone for a POORLY WORDED MISTAKE.

[PBass]

3. He's voting no on Alito

and he's voting no on cloture

I hope this thread is a joke, because he is going to do the right thing.

[mom cat]

27. OBAMA IS ON OUR SIDE... KNOCK IT OFF and get to work contacting

the ones who still need convincing!

[drm604]

22. I don't see how it was worded poorly.

It was very clear to me. He said that he supports the filibuster, but he was upset that the party had let it get to the point where last minute parliamentary manuevering was necessary.

[blm]

28. It came off like the maneuver itself was wrong.

And the FACT is that the senate hearings made plenty of points why Alito is wrong for the court, but the MEDIA played it down. Dems need to call out the media for not reporting the substance of the Dem arguments.

THAT observation would have made a difference at this point.

The poll numbers show alot of Republicans and Independents are UNSURE about Alito which means the MEDIA didn't give them the reportage of the pertinent facts that they needed.

[drm604]

34. I don't necessarily agree with his reasoning,

there may very well have been nothing the Democrats could have done, so he could be mistaken about that. But, at this point, that's basically a matter of opinion that will never be resolved.

I don't think that it came off as him believing that the maneuver was wrong: saying "I support the filibuster" doesn't give that impression to me.

If anything, I think it came off as reluctant support for a maneuver of last resort. Most last resorts are distasteful and uncomfortable, that's why they're held till last. Being uncomfortable with it, and regretting that it's become necessary isn't, at least in my mind, the same as saying that it's wrong.

ON Edit: Fixed grammar.

[DarienComp]

2. i like cookies.

[AspenRose]

11. Thanks for reminding me to order Girl Scout cookies.

eom

[xchrom]

12. popcorn not to your liking?

:popcorn:

[TheWraith]

4. Tell me what he said that was so evil or untrue, eh? NT

[Gman]

5. Has anyone ever said you're a drama queen

or king, or whatever?

[mom cat]

29. OBAMA IS ON OUR SIDE...HE IS SUPPORTING THE FILIBUSTER!

[dogman]

6. I recall his convention speech .

It seems consistent with what he is saying now.

[Inuca]

7. Nonsense! (nt)

[Wordie]

8. Jeez!!! He is voting "NO" on Alito, and "YES" on the filibuster!

What more do you need? There are lots of very misleading articles about the interview where he apparently expressed reservations, which is a minor issue in comparison with what really counts, his VOTE!

Don't let misleading msm articles cause you to attack someone on OUR side!

[understandinglife]

21. Ditto. Couldn't have stated any better. Thank you.

Peace.

[mom cat]

30. EXACTLY! OBAMA IS VOTING FOR THE FILIBUSTER!

[SPKrazy]

9. Wish I Could Recall Oblama! But I'm Not In Illinois

He seemed to have so much promise when I heard him speak at the DNC in 04

Now he just seems to be another inside the beltway or DLC type.

[Catchawave]

10. Why ? n/t

[ticapnews]

13. OBAMA IS SUPPORTING THE FILIBUSTER

Senator Barack Obama says he will support a filibuster to block a confirmation vote on Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito.

But the Illinois Democrat also says his party relies too heavily on procedural maneuvers like filibusters and Democrats could do a better job of persuading the American people directly.

Obama spoke this morning on A-B-C's news talk show "This Week."
http://www.wqad.com/Global/story.asp?S=4425639&nav=1sW7

Saying we need to do a better job talking to the American people is not a bad thing.

DO NOT BUY THE BULLSHIT FROM THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!
The corporate media is spinning this as Obama criticizing the filibuster but HE IS SUPPORTING THE FILIBUSTER.

[raysr]

14. That's why he should've kept his

fucking mouth shut!!

[ikojo]

19. The Democrats are not effective at pursuading the

American people directly. There are far too many Dems in the Hillary mold who triangulate every position and do not take a solid stand on issues. What is wrong with saying, "I was wrong on voting to authorize Bush to attack Iraq?" yet Hillary wont say that. Most Americans are against the war.

The Democrats need to establish CLEAR and SUCCINCT differences between them and the Republicans. One way they can do this is to rid the party of the pro big business and Republican lite DLC.

[Heewack]

15. Not here.

I can only laugh at the idea that Obama needs to be stricken from the party. Like it nor not Obama is the future of our party. HE IS AN ASSET!

[ruggerson]

16. That's right

let's tear down the next generation of Democratic leaders because they don't vote our way on one issue.

How adult and helpful to our cause.

[Czolgosz]

17. He's been a disappointment. Compare his actual votes with campaign promise

there is the stench of national ambition coupled with the Hillary-esque fear that the NASCAR zealots in the South won't vote for a black man named Obama unless he proves he'll compromise his ideals to their whims.

[never cry wolf]

20. He has a very progressive voting record

and what exactly did you think his campaign promises were? I am in Illinois and I heard him loud and clear that he wanted to work with both sides of the aisle to attain some progressive policies. He had a rep in the state senate for working with both sides.

Sheesh, I think that it was everyone's expectations of him that were incorrect. What did you expect? For him to turn his back and raise his right fist in protest? To be a combination of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton? To try to increase the partisan divide?

He is a statesman in the mold of his mentor and friend, Paul Simon, who won great respect for his honesty and integrity from both parties.

[wndycty]

25. Exactly, I wonder if the DUers who bash the hell out of Obama. . .

. . .truly listened to his speech. It was about bringing this country together. Obama was my state senator and he is a neighbor. This man is a true liberal, however as a US Senator as opposed to a state senator he represents a more diverse constituency. I remember attending an anti-war rally in 2002 at the Federal Building and the speech he gave blew me away. I walked up to him introduced myself as a neighbor and told him he was going to be the next senator from the state of Illinois. I have been a fan ever since that day. There are so many DUers micromanaging and second guessing all of his actions its just disgusting. I'm confident when he is up for re-election in 2010 he will win again.

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[never cry wolf]

31. Check out this post by KharmaTrain

On another thread, I think he is right on:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2411978#2412177

Also, for those who need their memmories refreshed, here's a link to video of his speech at the convention. Listen carefully now.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/28/1313225

[Czolgosz]

32. He's been more moderate than progressive compared to what I had been led

to expect from his national speeches.

According to Eagle Forum, Illinois is more progressively represented by Bobby L. Rush, Jesse Louis Jackson, Luis V. Gutierrez, Rahm Emanuel, Danny K. Davis, Melissa L. Bean, Lane A. Evans, Jan Schakowsky, and here's a shock, Republican Mark Steven Kirk.

I'd hoped Obama would be on the progressive end of the Illinois Democratic Party. He's not.

[wndycty]

35. Comparing a Senator to Representatives is like comparing amples to oranges

The representatives you mentioned, including the Kirk, come from congressional districts that are liberal. Obama represents the entire state not one particular congressional district.

[ticapnews]

23. His voting record is identical to Carl Levin and Pat Leahy

tied for 17th most progressive, per the Patrick Henry Think Tank
http://patrickhenrythinktank.org/sen-score7.html

[mzmolly]

18. Not!

:P

[TruthStream_dot_org]

24. What a HUGE disappointment

Audacity of hope my ass. Audacity of cutting and running from the Constitution is more like it. Scumbag. Wasnt this the 'up and coming star of the democratic party'? God help us all. What a shame.

[tritsofme]

33. Are you fucking kidding me?

If you're not from Illinois, go wander off somewhere.

Besides the fact that you can't "recall" a US senator, this is ridiculous.

[mvd]

36. Locking

This thread works for the defeat of a Democrat