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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:17 AM
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First bill Dems should send Bush: outlaw his signing statements
and make the penalty being sent to bed without his bulldog.


Seriously, that would send a strong message on checks and balances, and if Bush vetoed it he'd look bad. If he put a signing statement on it, he'd look like an even more ibvious mental patient.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:19 AM
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1. I love it!
Great idea!

Kicked and recommended!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:20 AM
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2. Would that be his 1st veto?
Would it be over-ridden? Frankly, other than ego gratification, I'm not sure what these statements do for him.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:20 AM
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3. the signing statements are illegal / unconstitutional to begin with.
i dont think passing another law is the right way to deal with it, i dont know what is exactly though.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:32 AM
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10. it would remove all boubt and force public debate on "unitary exec" bullshit
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smtpgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:21 AM
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4. I'm for that too, asshole has rescinded almost all of the
legislation he has signed with the signing statements. It is almost why bother signing the bills at all
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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:21 AM
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5. Query
Could Bush issue a signing statement to a bill outlawing signing statements?

:shrug:


:yoiks:
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:30 AM
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6. Mods: Move this post to the Metaphysics Forum.
--IMM
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:35 AM
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11. that's the beauty of it--how could Supreme Court let that stand when....
it would indisputably be contradicting the intent of the legislation.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:35 AM
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12. Only if he believes the bill actuall exists.....
;)
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:42 AM
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16. And then we could write a bill so Bush couldn't issue a signing statement...
to a bill outlawing signing statements...
...but then he'd just attach a signing statement to our bill
forbidding signing statements attached to a bill outlawing signing statements
and...oh no I've gone cross eyed. :crazy:
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:31 AM
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7. He'd sign it
Then sign a signing statement giving him the right to ignore it.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:36 AM
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13. I thought you'd say he'd sign it because he can't read
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:38 AM
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8. One thing we can agree on
His "signing statements" are a threat to democracy. We need to decide to either have a President or a Monarch. I choose President (no matter how much of a dumbass he is), and I think that the American people concur, according to the way they voted.

Grow up, Dubya. You can't simply "refuse" to follow the law. You're the President (unfortunately). You need to either abide by the rule of law or you need to get the hell out. Part of the maturing process is accepting the fact that things don't always go your way.
Ringo
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:42 AM
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15. even a lot of righties agree accept for the truly retarded
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:53 AM
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9. I agree. Otherwise what's the point of passing any laws? n/t
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:39 AM
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14. Yep: bill on body armor would end up paying for Dick Cheney's spare
mechanical hearts, or requiring due process at Gitmo would become democrats being processed into gitmo.
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philly_bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 02:07 AM
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17. Pretty good idea, at least for symbolism!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:54 PM
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18. thanks
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