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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 08:45 AM
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Stop sending our jobs overseas!
Then maybe we won't have to have Mexican 'guest worker' slaves doing the jobs that 'Americans won't do'.

Raise the minimum wage, lower the price of living, keep our jobs here at home where we need them.

Or is that just asking too much?
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Barnaby Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 08:49 AM
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1. Well, we have the votes now.
We can do it.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:03 AM
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5. Will we though?
Byron Dorgan has it exactly right and we need to turn to him to head this. Fair trade practices and business sanctions. Shut down free trade and repeal NAFTA.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 11:12 AM
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12. Hi Barnaby!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Maggie_May Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 08:50 AM
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2. I agree
This should be one of the first things that we need to work on! We put them in office now they need to work for us maybe a few calls to our Senators and Congress will help. STOP SHIPPING JOBS OVERSEAS!!
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 08:53 AM
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3. Yes.
Edited on Fri Nov-10-06 08:57 AM by acmejack
Lower the price of living? Can't be done. There is no way to bring back the jobs, Phil. It is about to get a lot worse, the full impact of Al;an Greenspan's ruinous policies is soon to come home to roost. His policies were nothing more than a giagantic con game run upon the people to transfer wealth to upper class and guess what-it worked!

Read "Greenspan's Fraud: How Two Decades of His Policies Have Undermined the Global Economy by Ravi Batra" for more on that!

Here's what Thom Hartmann says about it:
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Technically (and legally) it's simple - the Social Security Trust Fund will give back its IOUs to the Treasury Department and in exchange for them get cash to pay the Boomers' retirement checks. Practically, though, it'll be a crisis of biblical proportions. In order for the Treasury to come up with that kind of cash will require either massive tax increases or increased massive borrowing - at a time when we're already borrowing so heavily that China is propping up our economy with weekly loans.

Thus, Bush talks about a "crisis" in Social Security with some accuracy. But he doesn't dare tell us what the real "crisis" is, or how Reagan and Greenspan set it up, because when it becomes widely known that the real crisis is that Reagan set the course to steal Boomers' Social Security savings, it will destroy the reputation of both supply-side economics and the Republican Party for generations to come.

And the Social Security fraud just outlined is only the beginning. Batra shows - in extraordinary (and easily understood) detail - how Greenspan has steadily worked for over two decades to sell out America's sovereignty and economic interests to those of the multinational corporations he so loves, and to sell out the working people of America (and their Social Security Trust Fund) to the super-rich who Greenspan has always represented.

Greenspan manipulated the stock market so his buddies could get rich, then warned them just in time to get out before it blew up. He's kept together tax cuts and pay increases for the CEO class by pumping cheap money into the economy so the Middle Class will go ever deeper into debt, setting up a housing bubble that could crash in a way that would make 1929 look like a mild bump in the economic road. And he's helped engineer and support international "free" trade policies that have disemboweled America's manufacturing and information technology sectors, with the happy result for Republicans that the once-politically-active and heavily unionized middle class is being replaced by a politically impotent mass of the working poor, too busy to worry about politics or challenge corporate news.

http://www.buzzflash.com/hartmann/05/07/har05007.html



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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:01 AM
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4. I don't understand why this issue wasn't used more by BOTH parties.
:shrug:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 11:14 AM
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13. Cause they get fat checks from people with opposing interests?
We little worker bees can't afford such generous donations.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:04 AM
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6. One word: Tariffs.
Everybody else in the friggin' world does it, so should we.

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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:16 AM
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8. You got it! n/t
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:11 AM
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7. Way too much
Raise, lower, keep. Taken in total, that seems to balance out, one of each. But that doesn't actually balance out.

In a response to a post I had a week ago or so, someone made a good comment that makes a lot of sense:

Good, Fast, Cheap...you can only pick two.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:17 AM
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9. Well, there is a bill in the Congress for this
Probbly one of many introduced by Democrats. In a new Congress, these bills can be combined in Committee and brought out for a vote.

Go here: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/L?c109:./list/c109s.lst:3701

The bill in question is S. 3777. The bills are not really in order on that page, so search for '3777' and it will come up. (Ah, the left column of numbers is 3772. Go figure.)

<109th> S.3777 : A bill to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to ensure a fairer and simpler method of taxing controlled foreign corporations of United States shareholders, to treat certain foreign corporations managed and controlled in the United States as domestic corporations, to codify the economic substance doctrine, and to eliminate the top corporate income tax rate, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Kerry, John F. (introduced 8/2/2006) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: Senate Finance
Latest Major Action: 8/2/2006 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Finance.


Sen. Dorgan introduced a bill last year that is languishing in the Senate Finance Committee.
(Same link as above. This bill in on this line:
670 . New Homestead Act of 2005 (Introduced in Senate) )

<109th> S.675 : A bill to reward the hard work and risk of individuals who choose to live in and help preserve America's small, rural towns, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Dorgan, Byron L. (introduced 3/17/2005) Cosponsors (14)
Committees: Senate Finance
Latest Major Action: 3/17/2005 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Finance.

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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:22 AM
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10. How do we stop with "this" mentality?
Outsourcing is good for US economy: Ballmer

New Delhi, Nov. 9 (PTI): Favouring large-scale outsourcing of software services and R&D works to countries such as India, Steve Ballmer, CEO of the world's largest software company Microsoft, has said the US stands to benefit out of this.

"We will have to increasingly bank on India for scaling up our operations to rise on the next wave of innovation. So, outsourcing is here to stay. I have always stated that the so-called outsourcing is good for the US economy," he said while delivering the fifth Madhav Rao Scindia Memorial lecture yesterday night.

"With the US government making it more difficult for people to come into the US from outside, it puts in pressure on companies like ours to relatively grow our talent pool in India even faster. About 18 per cent of our engineers in Seattle are Indians," he said.

Ballmer, however, felt the attitude (against outsourcing) has improved over the last year.

Based on a Global Delivery Centre (GDC) model, the 23-billion dollar Indian software services industry thrives on the offshore business. But this has led to a backlash in many countries, including the US, as a result of local job loss.

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/218200611091222.htm
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Ellis Wyatt Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:54 AM
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11. show the economics
All the right understands is dollars & cents.

You have to prove financially how outsourcing some jobs internationally does help strengthen the US economy overall.
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