On Impeachemnt

[nadinbrzezinski]

Ok, ok I'll admit it, I want his chimpiness impeached, then indicted and then turned over to the FEDS and sent to Leavenworth and throw away the key

But as much as I want to have this happen there are several reasons why it probably will not.

1.- Our people are busy planting olive trees all over the place, why? As much as we hate them, (and some of us do), we still nominally need them because they are part of Congress... (In the minority YAAAYY)

2.- There probably were calls during the night where his Chimpiness was reminded who has the power now... and that power includes impeachment.

3.- Impeachment will take about two years, Yes we all have done investigations, even some in the basement, but since there was no subpoena guess what? They have to start from ground zero.... Most impeachments take what? Two years? His lame duckness has two years, you do the math... in the meantime we have otter fish to fry and prove that we can change the country in a way that will benefit joe and jane six pack.

4.- Here is the most critical reason folks... study your history. The reason they are so skittish is... there have been three in the history of the country, if you consider Nixon an Impeachment, technically the articles were ready to go but were never introduced. So the only TWO times that it was done, they were politically motivated, and the party doing it LOST seats the coming election. In other words our reps are afraid they don't have the capital to spend. Now if we all start hueing and crying and they see it... we may even see his chimpiness resign on his own accord... as to shooter, I am betting he is a coward of major proportions as well, so he will also go.

What does all of this means? If you really want it, posting on DU will get you nothing. You and ten of your Friends have to WRITE, I don't mean an EMAIL, physically print the letter, and send it to your reps. Whether they are republican or democrat does not matter. Copy that to the Majority Leader of the House, as well as the whip and the speaker.

You must also call shows

Write Letters to the editor.

In oater words, you want to prove to our very skittish dog that there is hunting down there, you have to show there is pray and that this dog will not get spanked with the paper if he takes down the squirrel.

[dysfunctional press]

1. an impeachment would be an uneeded distraction.

it boggles my mind that so many people here can't seem to grasp that fact.

it IS NOT going to happen folks...time to move on, and get to work cleaning up the mess left behind by the gop congress.

[texastoast]

3. Yeppers.

We have him pretty well hamstrung now, not that he doesn't deserve to be impeached.

We have to focus on how to fix what he broke. I'd like to see some threads about plans to get our country back from China, organizing a pressure cooker activist group to get a decent energy plan in place with tax credits, ending the corporate welfare, and the list is freaking huge.

Let's get our energy focused on fixing--not blaming.

[Cleita]

5. Sure we are going to clean up the mess if every legislation that

Congress passes is going to be vetoed by the Chimperor.

[dysfunctional press]

6. let him veto good legislation-

every veto will mean more votes for a Dem president in 2008.

[Cleita]

13. That worked so well giving Arnold Schwarzenegger the boot.

He was elected anyway even after vetoing the legislation passed for universal health care in California. In the meantime a homeless guy died of cancer in a field in my county because he had no access to medical care. (Our County Hospital has been closed.) His homeless friends had to go find a mattress and some blankets to put him on while he died.

[dysfunctional press]

14. apparently arnold has been doing good enough for enough people

i don't live in california, so i don't follow it's politics...but if the people re-elected arnold, and by a wide margin- he must be doing something right.

[Cleita]

16. He got lucky because Angelides didn't run a good campaign.

But it's okay, What we have to do now is put the screws to Arnie to do the right thing. I am now preparing a letter to send him, telling him why he needs to pass that health bill, which will come up before him again. I intend to do this every day or at least every week while he is in office until he gets sick of hearing from me and others like me.

He has shown that he can back off hardball Republican politics. He cynically did so to be elected again. He is basically a dishonest, greedy and power hungry person who, like George Bush, puts on the air of affibility. I'm sure he's going back to hardball again now that he's elected, but we the people have to derail that and keep pushing him to the left until we can find someone electable in the next race.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. Actualy moving on depends on what is the feeling

in the nation. Remember the Watergate hearings HAPPENED in a time of war...first reason people will bring

They also got everything ELSE done

But the only way this will happen, (and in my view it just may) is if people SHOW they want it done. People NEED to demand it

But don't discount it... depends on a lot of POLITICAL MATH...not law, not order, not anything like that

it comes down to... can we do it and not get spanked for doing it?

The answer under Nixon was a definite yes... the answer for the GOP with Clintn was... are you nuts? And this is what the kids in congress remember.

[dysfunctional press]

15. most people not on the far right don't consider this a time of war.

and i don't think that most people want an impeachment done- so don't look for too much pressure to do so.

[Cleita]

2. If we only impeach the good competent presidents, and not the

treasonous, incompetent ones, it sends a bad message as far as I'm concerned.

Our nation will not heal if we don't impeach. People forget that impeachment is not a trial nor a sentencing. It's preliminary to that so we can put him under oath and ask him questions.

Two years is fine with me. It doesn't have to be a priority. For sure we have really pressing priorities, but this could be working on the back burner. The only person whose time is really going to be co-opted is Bush's and that might be a good thing.

He might be too busy then to be doing signing statements and vetoeing legislation that Congress has passed. You know that he's going to start vetoing like crazy when the new Congress starts getting to work.

[Bake]

8. Here's how our nation will heal:

By fixing what's broken, making real progress on genuine problems, and ensuring liberty and justice FOR ALL. That'll heal a lot more than impeachment will.

We just won an election -- FINALLY! If we ever want to win another one, we'd damn well better start fixing what's broken.

Bake

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. Actually you are wrong

the nation will only heal when all the crap done in our name over the last thirty to forty years comes out and the myth that we are excpetional goes away.

But that is fodder for a truth and recnciliaition commision, and this contry needs one

[BonnieJW]

4. But at the same time I think the IDEA of impeachment

is necessary. Nancy's agenda is a great one; however, what if bush vetoes everything??? We will get nothing accomplished unless we can override every time. Can we? Soooooo, we need to make it clear to all the repubs that here is our wish list and we want it all passed. If you don't help us do that, then we'll have all this time on our hands and what will we DO with it??? I don't know...maybe start INVESTIGATIONS?? Into EVERYTHING??

[Bake]

7. If Bush vetoes everything

Then the Repukes will have to explain why he did that to the public in 2008. Simple as that.

I agree with the OP 1,000,000%.

Bake

[nini]

10. You can't impeach until you have the evidence to proceed

that's where the investigations come into play. If we jump out of the gate and say we're going to impeach it'll look pretty stupid if the investigations aren't done and evidence found to proceed.

One step at a time.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. bingo

[porphyrian]

17. Failing to impeach a criminal President is itself a criminal act.

It doesn't matter how long it takes. Impeachment is imperative.