Tell James Carville You Support Howard Dean's 50 State Strategy

[demwing]

And that you reject corporatism, cynicism, cronyism, and Carvillism.

James Carville says Dems swept up in the mid-terms DESPITE Dean's strategy. He says Dean should be replaced by Ford, the losing candidate from Tennessee.

I say we should all send an email to Carville, and let him know what we think of his nonsense.

Write Carville here:

[e-mail]

Get a friend to write him as well. Lets bury this fucker's inbox with support for Dr. Dean.

[quiet.american]

1. Carville has lost it. Is he nuts? n/t

[demwing]

2. He may be. Write him and tell him so.

[e-mail]

[Starlight]

62. Carville = GOP operative

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Carville's goal is to "help" Dems lose. Of course he hates Howard Dean. Dean is transforming the party into winners. :kick:

[Vincardog]

3. I just sent this:

James:
I thought I heard you say that the Democratic party won in spite of Dr. Deans 50 state strategy. Are you serious? How many of those races would have even been contested if we had followed the failed DLC strategy of "Targeting strategic races"? Please get on the air and apologize NOW to Dr. Dean.

[Diane R]

4. Carville called his wife on Election night,

and told her that Kerry was going to contest. Matalin let Rove and Bush know, and the rest was (sadly) history.

I no longer trust Carville. I used to, but I don't anymore. And I think Donna Brazille (sp?) sold Kerry down the river, too.

We all really need to get behind Howard Dean and make certain he remains our Chairman.

[demwing]

11. I agree!

Please send an email to Carville saying the same thing

[e-mail]

[cui bono]

32. I'm not defending Carville, that said, I've never heard exactly what the

ramifications of his call were? Exactly what happened because of that call?

Thanks.

[karynnj]

38. The ramifications can't be known -

They may have been nothing or they may have triggered some still undetected cheating in Ohio.

The inference I see is that Carville could well have passed other internal Kerry stuff to Bush. If he had no loyalty then, I doubt he had any before.

Could the Clinton people that were added to Kerry's general election campaign have been an overall negative. His primary campaign was brilliant. (Remember that if it were not for Cleland, Lockhart would have had the Kerry campaign in the middle of the Rather Tang scandal. )

[The Count]

5. Carville said "sometimes torture is justified" back in 2002, before W

Eversince, everything else he says is white noise for me.

[TNOE]

6. Done

thanks.

[Rainscents]

7. STFU Carville... You fucking looser!

[roody]

8. I sent him a welcome to the Republican Party.

[dkofos]

9. Carville sounds like a fucking repube.

Dean won't be going anywhere.

UNLESS WE LET HIM

[acmavm]

10. Here's mine

The resurgence of the Democratic Party is because of the hard work and the tireless efforts of Dr. Howard Dean and his 50-State Strategy.

Without him, we'd still be listening to the nasty chastisements and snide propaganda and slanders of the republican party and it's horribly corrupt membership.

Thank you Dr. Dean.

XXXXXX XXXXXXXX
Omaha, NE

[Clark2008]

12. Will write when I get home - and I supported Ford jr., but

Carville is being ridiculous.

It's about Hillary, guys.

[Skidmore]

13. Done.

[spindrifter]

14. I just emailed him.

For whatever good it will do. Made me feel better, though.

[JeffR]

15. Thanks for the link. Here's what I sent while biting my tongue a bit:

Mr. Carville,

If you really think Dr. Dean's strategy wasn't effective, and isn't the best way forward for the next election cycle and the next and the next, you must have been watching a different election than the one I watched.

Yours, mystified,
JeffR
An old Florida boy living in Canada
______________

If he continues to shoot his mouth off about this, my next email to him will be nasty. But for now, I'm still feeling too good about Tuesday, no matter what the old fool says.

[RubyDuby in GA]

16. My love letter to him:

Mr. Carville,

I knew in late 2003 that you were out to get Howard Dean and I knew why. He was muscling in on your territory – telling Democrats what to do. And horror of all horrors – they were actually listening to him instead of you. Now that you’ve become obsolete in a party that has been reinvigorated by Dr. Dean’s commitment to winning on every level, you’ve shown yourself to be just what we – the rank and file Democrats – knew you to be: a petulant child who can’t stand losing.

How many times must you be proven wrong about him, his ability to raise money or his ability to lead this party before you will just slink away into your much deserved obscurity? For the sake of our party, just go ahead and go now and take the rest of the damn DLC with you.

RubyDuby in GA

Vice-Chair, Newton County Democratic Party (Covington, GA)
State Committee Member, Democratic Party of Georgia
Yellow Dog Democrat

[burythehatchet]

42. ...and mine

Dear Mr. Matalin, I want to be clear and to the point. If you and your DLC losers do anything to obstruct Dr. Dean and the other true Democrats who have helped us arrive at this point where we have a small chance of rescuing our country from corporatist whores such as yourself, I will devote my life to burying your ass.

XXXXXXXXXX, Democrat
Atlanta, GA

[madfloridian]

17. Dean responds to Carville via Karen Finney of the DNC

DEAN RESPONDS Via TNR, Howard Dean spokeswoman Karen Finney emails the following in response to James Carville's comments below:

After the Republicans have admitted to a thumping, why is it that the only one complaining on the Democratic side is James Carville, who today in addition to trashing Howard Dean, praised the RNC, the outfit that brought us the racist ad that defeated Harold Ford, James' supposed candidate for Chair? Perhaps he's not aware that under Dean in this midterm election the DNC has raised record cash --- all hard dollars -- including three times as much from major donors, eight times as much online and made a $30 million investment in the '06 cycle, three times as much as the DNC put into the last midterm. Not to mention we made an $8m overhaul of our voter file which was successfully used in 47 states and through the 50 state strategy invested in states like Pennsylvania, Kansas, Indiana and Montana where we had critical victories on Tuesday.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/11/10/135231/90

[Snotcicles]

18. Carville is a no talent washed up irrelevant network mooch just like Carlson.

Hey James hows that hind-tit workin out for ya?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

19. Hey, Carville, take your wife! Please!

Fucking Clintonites think they own the goddamn party.

[fooj]

30. The pitbull needs to take his treasonous hag and get the hell out of our party.

BTW- Ford (DLC fratboy) LOST. Grab a clue, assholes. America is sick of corporate whores. Period.

[cui bono]

33. Hey! I have 2 pit bulls. Please don't insult them. ;) n/t

[fooj]

34. LOL! Fair enough.

[DoYouEverWonder]

20. I think I'd rather tell Carville

to stuff it where the sun don't shine, but I'll try to be polite.

[Warren Stupidity]

21. Done. K&R

[demwing]

22. Here's My Own Letter

Mr. Matalin,

I'm dropping you a line to let you know that I find your comments concerning Howard Dean reprehensible. Dean put forward a strategy that the old school Democrats thought would never work. He weathered the criticism, and pushed forward his vision, working tirelessly for a goal he believed would help Democrats in all states. What was this horrid plan? Dean simply wanted to fight Republicans on every level, in every state. Dean wanted to build grass root support across the country, and take the Democratic party out of the hands of overpaid consultants such as yourself.

No wonder Dean frightens you.

On November 7th, Dean's berated vision was gloriously exonerated. Your vision, the same vision that saw us lose several elections, should forever be laid to rest. It is, in fact, a lack of vision, and a recipe for continued failure. Dr. Howard Dean has done more for the Democratic party than a hundred James Carvilles ever could.

Know that any financial support I set side for the Democrats will be directed to the DNC that Howard Dean built. I will never give a single cent of my hard earned cash to any so-called Democratic group that supports you, or your bitter cronyism.

Do the right thing and apologize to Howard, or let the chips--and donations--fall as they may.

XXXXXXXXXXXXX

[Demit]

23. I want to send my email but the address doesn't work for me!

I'm using OSX's mail software. Is anyone else having this problem?

[Maven]

24. Dean should be replaced by Ford?

:rofl:

Does he work for The Onion now?

[scarletwoman]

25. Here's my email to him:

Quit dissing Dean!

After 12 years of the Democrats LOSING with you and your corporate cronies' "strategy", you want to throw out the guy who finally got the Dems back in power?! Whose side are you really on? Maybe I should ask your wife...

You and the DLC are LOSERS! The best thing that could happen to MY party is that you all just go away and shut the hell up.

(my name)
Hinckley, MN

[bunny planet]

26. And after we tell Carville just what we think of his ingratitude to Dr. Dean

Let's also show Dr. Dean some love.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2956099

[demwing]

31. Excellent idea bunny

I'm on my way...

[John Q. Citizen]

27. Here's my email to James (the whiner) Carville

Dear Mr. Carville;

Have you lost your mind? What is your problem dude? Won't Mary give you any?
Howard Dean breathed new life into our party. Why do you want to screw that up? Is it that Howard is stingy with consultant jobs that you feel should go to you?

Look, if you don't apologize, say you are sorry and make nice, then I'm gonna write the TV shows you appear on, ask them for a schedule so I can miss when you go on the air to bash Democrats.

There are a lot more small name Democrats than big name Democrats, and we like what Howard is doing. He's a winner! We like winners. Forget that at your own risk.

Sincerely,

xxxxxxxx
xxxxxx, MT.

[Hippo_Tron]

28. I don't want to make Carville's ego any larger than it is

As I said in the other thread, the guy is a good strategist but he's also an arrogant ass with a huge ego. He can't accept the idea that there is another way to win besides the Clinton method.

[Tuesday_Morning]

29. done!

[cal04]

35. done. Thank you for posting.

As hard as we fought for him when he was running for the head of the DNC, we will fight to keep him there!

[MelissaB]

36. I shot that asshole an email and wasn't nice. He picked the wrong day to piss in my cheerios.

:kick:

[BlackVelvet04]

37. Email sent. n/t

[Rainscents]

39. Sent!

Here is my letter...

Dr. Dean is DNC Chair...He has done excellent job and because of him and his 50 state strategy "WE THE PEOPLE" WON! Where the hell were you past 6 months? You should had been out there with Dean and rest of us worked our ass off. You were no where to be seen until after election to mouth off Dr. Dean. I tell you, you can take you and rest of the DLC and shove it! Our new grassroots' DNC don't want you and DLC corporate whores in our party! BTW... more you open your mouth, more money Dean will collect! I am heading right over there now and do donating again. If there ever another DLC elected as presidential nominee or DNC Chair, I will stop donating my money period!

Sincerely,

[MelissaB]

40. Kick dammit!

[Maven]

41. Dear James,

Ken Mehlman's recent announcement that he's stepping down from his post at the RNC presents you with the perfect job opportunity. Clearly, you'd rather work for Republicans.

Hopefully you can help them continue to lose elections the same way you've "helped" Democrats all these years.

Yours in victory,

A progressive Democrat

[MelissaB]

43. Oooh! That's good.

:hi:

[demwing]

45. SNAP!

That was cold. I loved it :rofl:

[American Jesus]

44. Pardon me if I've said this before, but.....

Why is ANYONE on this board still living under the illusion that the DLC represents us in ANY capacity. Howard Dean has been proven right again and again, and it was HIS PLAN which won this election, despite everything the AIPAC/PNAC/DLC crowd did to interfere.

[robinlynne]

46. I just sent him this email. Thanks for the link.

Just to be clear, we the democratic party, support every move our chairman Howard Dean has made. His fifty-state strategy has proven itself a huge success. He represents us, millions of democrats. You do not. We request an apology to Dr. Dean. You might learn from him, or move out of the way so we can bring democracy back to our nation.
Thank-you,
sincerely,
xxxxxxxx

[snot]

47. Are any Dems paying him for any services? If so, fire him! nt

[demwing]

50. If so, I can't figure out why.

Carville will forever ride the coattails of Bill Clinton's first Presidential victory.

But my gawd, that was 14 years ago. Time to get a new act you Aging Cajun.

[Duppers]

48. Done, with pleasure!

thanks.

[MelissaB]

49. Thank you!

:kick:

[Califooyah Operative]

51. done. nt

[phiddle]

52. My letter:

Dear Mr. Matalin: In a victory of such historical import and proportions as we Democrats experienced last Tuesday there is surely enough credit to go around. Therefore, I don't mind a bit if you give SOME credit to Rahm Emanuel, despite him expensively betting on some (sadly) losing candidates such as Tammy Duckworth and (stupidly?, spitefully?)neglecting funding for some winners such as Jerry McNerney and John Hall. Nor do I mind crediting Sen. Schumer, although he seemed incapable of providing solid counsel to Harold Ford, who shoulda won that race.

Do you also credit Mr. Schumer and Mr. Emanuel with our increased governorships, and with taking over more state legislatures? Do you credit them with strengthening our presence in many formerly red states? Do you credit them with reducing the Republican edge in Get Out the Vote activities? Do you credit them with narrowing the technology gap with the Republicans? Do you credit them with the vastly increased Democratic volunteerism in local campaigns? Do you credit them with better response, communication and co-ordination in many campaigns, from local to national? I would think that such illogic is a stretch even for, say, an aide to Dick Cheney.

No, Howard Dean's performance was critical to all of the issues in the previous paragraph. Therefore, I would suggest that you not mess with success, don't try to fix it if it isn't broken, and think before you speak.

[demwing]

57. I also wrote to hims as "Mr Matalin" - lol

Thanks for respnding

[Tuesday_Morning]

53. Joseph Cannon sez:

"James Carville...your time's up. We're done with you. Go away. You're creeping us out, and not just with your looks.

Carville wants to get rid of Howard Dean and replace him with Harold Ford. I've nothing against Ford. But I do have a problem with the man who helped come up with Democratic election strategy in 1994, and who now wants us to think that Dean's win wasn't big enough.

Carville has become an official member of JLAS -- the Joseph Lieberman Asshole Society."

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/11/james-carville.html

[JudyM]

54. Done. nt

[Ksec]

55. Howard Dean rocks

Carvile should really just shut the fk up about Dean.

[Spirochete]

56. I just sent him one

I was as polite as i could find it within myself to be, but I asked him what the fuck he could possibly be thinking about.

[donheld]

58. done

I really wish carville would just go away.

[progressoid]

59. Done and done!

[demwing]

60. Rolling Stone Online Weighs In "Dean Is God/Down With Dean"

http://www.rollingstone.com/nationalaffairs/?p=778

[demwing]

61. The NYT quotes Carville: "[The RNC] did a better job than the D.N.C. this year."

Chant with me -

Hey Ho! Hey Ho!
The Agin' Cajun's Gotta Go!