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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:02 AM
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Democrats Now MUST support filibuster to avoid partisan embarassment
Edited on Mon Jan-30-06 10:16 AM by Armstead
A message that should be conveyed to wavering Democrats.

Thery may have wanted this to quietly cruise through without as fight. But they no longer have a choice.

Thanks to Kerry, Kennedy and a grass roots groundswell, there WILL be an attempted filibuster. It is inevitable, because Kerry is going to force the issue, and he has the support of a significant number of Democrats already.

So, other Democrats must now participate to avoid embarassing the Democratic Party. There are now two options. The Dems hold together and look strong and united. Or they go against their Democratic peers. That would prompt another embarassing rouncd of news stories and smirking pundits talking about the "weak and divided Democrats" and how ineffectual they are as an opposition.

Sooooo, it has reached a point where the fence is no longer an option. Every Democratic senator wither supports their party or they oppose it.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:05 AM
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1. until Reid pushes them it will not matter.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:08 AM
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2. This applies to him too
Edited on Mon Jan-30-06 10:09 AM by Armstead
It's no matter a question of whether there will be a filibuster attempt. It is a matter of how he and the otehr Democratic senators handle it.

The matter has been taken out of their hands. They can either make the party look weak and divided or united and strong.

There is no other option at this point.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:51 AM
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3. Kick -- They need to realize the horse is already out of the barn
Edited on Mon Jan-30-06 10:52 AM by Armstead
It is no longer a question of IF there is a filibuster effort, but how the democratic Party handles it.

They can use it as an opportunity to show a strong unified and principled face.

Or they can use it to perpetuate all of the stereotypes about "Democrats in disarray" and how ineffictual and "partisan" they are.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:54 AM
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4. that is how i felt the moment kennedy and kerry.... kerry stuck it
Edited on Mon Jan-30-06 11:00 AM by seabeyond
out from a CONFERENCE in switzerland. that moment kennedy and kerry spoke out, i was right there with you amstead. hey..... still listening to turk. love the dude
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:58 AM
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6. A good week to be from Massachusetts
Kennedy and Kerry -- Makes us residents of Mass proud.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 11:01 AM
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7. hey...... i get to feel too, even from amarillo, texas....... lol lol
show off
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 11:08 AM
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9. You can be an honarary Massachusetts citizen
Massachusetts is a state of mind, wherever you live. :D
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 11:09 AM
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10. i hear you dude, lol. i believe. i have a sister in law in cape cod
Edited on Mon Jan-30-06 11:10 AM by seabeyond
i have spent time there. i just love the feel. lordy, how did i get stuck here. wink. happy filibuster kick ass day

on edit : i just got jazzed by turks rant on voting for alito cause he is from new jersey, lol
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:17 PM
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16. Hey seabeyond, another vote for honorary Mass cicitenship
Seriously, it is a state of mind. You're in.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 12:10 PM
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11. ah thank you tay tay...... i really need it. as much as JILL NEEDS
some coffee. who is in L.A. get the woman some coffee...........young turks filibustering before filibuster, on radio
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 02:49 PM
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17. You must fill out a Massachusetts citizenship form...
..But that's just a formality.

:D
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 12:16 PM
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13. What you said
Now can we get rid of Romney? I can't stand that SOB.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 03:02 PM
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18. He got rid of himself hasn't he?
I thought I heard he announced he is not running vor anotehr term...But maybe that was wishful thinking on my part
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 03:04 PM
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19. that's because he plans to run for President in 2008
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 03:31 PM
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20. You are right but I want hom gone yesterday n/t
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:57 AM
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5. I'm sure that message is being delivered
I think Obama got that message.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 11:03 AM
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8. It needs to be delivered -- Now filibuster is the only "strategic" option
The waverers can either be steamrolled by the GOP/Media or they can see this as an opportunity to show some Democratic Moxie. There is no otehr alternative at this point.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 12:15 PM
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12. K&R
:kick:
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 12:44 PM
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14. So true! Time for a show of STRENGTH and SOLIDARITY!
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:16 PM
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15. Exactly -- Events have pushed them to this
They have to respond because they can't sweep it under the rug.

The choice is simple. Do they want the Democratic Party to look strong and unified or weal and splintered? There is no other option.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 03:32 PM
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21. K&R. YES!
Peace.
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