Museum for Intelligent Design (Glen Rose, Texas)

[kwolf68]

I spent the last week or so in Texas spending time in a place called Fossil Rim Wildlife Park...in Glen Rose, Texas. This wildlife park is where we are doing research on species under the SSP.

There is also a Dinosaur Park just up the road from the Wildlife Center where actual fossilized dinosaur footprints exist. I had to go visit the Dinosaur Park and found it very interesting. While the park isn't that big, plan on spending time there figuring out where the footprints are, some are not easily seen (while some are), but anyway.

About a half a mile before entering Dinosaur Park (a Texas state public park), there was a Museum there....it was called the "Evidence for Intelligent Design" museum. And if I am not mistaken on their signage was a picture of a dinosaur getting smashed over the head with a hammer or something like that. I shit you not...Did I stop? No I didn't...I was pressed for time, but has ANYONE here been to this place? What on earth could have been in there? Should I have "made time" to stop in?

I am amazed that such a place exists and it is clear this facility was put up to "combat" the heretics of paleontology.

I guess I should have visited this place to further expand on it.

[bluestateguy]

1. They are free to have their little fantasy land, as long as it's without govt. funding

nt

[kwolf68]

4. No no govt funding....

At least I don't think.

Another note....there were several hundred cars in the Dinosaur Park....the parking lot of the Intelligent Design place had exactly 3...+ a couple motorcycles.

[jobycom]

6. Sounds like a shady massage parlor...

Would THAT be proof against dinosaurs?

[shance]

12. I think America has had enough fantasy. It's killing us, and most don't

even see the hammer headed OUR way.

[Lautremont]

2. Well, that's where it belongs.

Not in a real museum of course. A museum of Crackpottery Through The Ages, perhaps.

[ddbaj]

3. Indeed, keep it there and out of the classroom n/t

[jobycom]

5. Ah, Dinosaur Park. Some fond memories of that place

There have always been signs around the area advertising some form of proof Darwin was wrong. I've never stopped to see what they were advertising. Beautiful part of the state, though.

[Archae]

7. Isn't Kent Hovind's creationist park in Florida closed?

Since he was convicted for being a tax cheat? :rofl:

[kwolf68]

9. LOL...dont know

But had I had an extra 15 minutes and if the entry was free I would have LOVED to have gone in there....I'd have just loved to have seen "the evidence'....

[sharp_stick]

15. He could be gone for a long time

I had no idea he was in that much trouble.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Hovind

Nice to see one of the "young Earth" wacko's getting his due.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

8. What could be in there? Good question.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/museum/walkthrough/

Apparently, it's poorly painted murals of dinosaurs and Adam living together in the garden of eden, and so on.

You know, a couple of years ago there was a satire site of a "Creationist Science Fair." But it wasn't that far off from the truth.

[kwolf68]

10. Sooo

Now they don't dispute that Dinosaurs existed, only that they are no older than man?????

This is just like the "Flat Earthers" who finally moved onto a new "angle" when it became patently obvious that the world indeed was NOT flat....same thing here. Saying Dinosaur fossils are here "only to test our faith" is such a half-bakked argument that even the fundies needed to discard it.

[ChickMagic]

11. I haven't been in it

but I do know that the case rests on a "fossil finger" found
by Carl Baugh. There are cretaceous cephalopods in the area
since it used to be a coral reef and if you have a good imagination,
it can look like a finger. Sort of. He trusts his Christian
followers so much that the finger is in a safe deposit box.
What they see is a replica.

He's got an old rusty tank outside that he plans to pressurize
in simulation of primordial earth. He claims that before Adam
and Eve fell, snakes weren't venomous. He wants to prove that
claim.

Remember, it's a really old, rusty tank. It has square windows.
In his fantasy Flintstone Creation, he will be able to pressurize
that tank and I hope he's standing nearby.

[kwolf68]

13. Ah-ha

Not shocked at that....this is the same thing they do when they play music backwards to find satanic messages...with enough imagination it can say anything.

The cretaceous finger would put "us" right smack dab in the middle of Dinosaur prominence....NO SUCH evidence exists...while I don't doubt the meteor explosion (should you subscribe to this theory) would have spared us (mammals) much in the same way it sparred other mammals of the time, the fossil record simply disputes such a crackpot theory.

[ChickMagic]

17. It is a crackpot theory

I have asked his devotees why we don't find hammers or bibles
in the strata where Baugh found his "fossil finger". It's a
great dig out there - wonderful for finding coral fossils.
Not too far away, in Mineral Wells, you see the transition to
beach and land. Trilobytes and ferns.

[kwolf68]

19. In addition

If the people in "this time of the finger" really existed as this loon says so, then why no evidence of civilization that would accompany such people?

[ChickMagic]

22. Exactly so

Since they believe all the deposits are from Noah's flood,
you'd think you'd find a few things. BTW - if I'm not
mistaken, the "finger" underwent a CT and guess what?
It's not a finger.

[TlalocW]

23. What would pressurizing a tank prove?

TlalocW

[jmowreader]

25. He's attempting to mimic the supposed Jurassic atmosphere

The earth's atmosphere in the era when dinosaurs walked the earth is reputed to have held twice the oxygen, 10x the carbon dioxide and twice the barometric pressure of the atmosphere we have today, so he's going to create a Jurassic atmosphere and...I dunno, grow pot plants or something in it.

OTOH...if we could convince the sumbitch that Jurassic atmosphere was actually 30 percent Acetylene to 60 percent Oxygen and 10 percent Carbon Monoxide, and it was at a pressure of 300psi, that could get entertaining in a hurry. (At that pressure, acetylene will ignite on its own.)

[DoYouEverWonder]

14. I've been to Fossil Rim

Awesome place. Got to stay in their very expensive air conditioned tents. Very cool when their wolves all start howling in the middle of the night.

BTW: If you get back there and want to see the really good dino tracks, there's a old couple who have a house down the road from the State Park. They've got little hand written signs posted along the roads. For five bucks they'll let you use the trail in their backyard down to the river. The tracks there are much better then anything you can find in the state park and they are up above the water.

[kwolf68]

16. Interesting....

Has anyone verified the tracks on their property????

[DoYouEverWonder]

18. The American Museum of Natural History

made a mold of them and it is on display in NYC.



This model is to scale and is only one section of what is behind this house.

[kwolf68]

20. wow...

yea, those are the exact footprints I saw in the park...would have definately liked to have found these people's home.

[johnnie]

21. I had a little bit of fun in Glen Rose

I didn't go see the tracks because my friend who lives there said they would be covered due to the amount of rain they got.

It is such a small town, it cracked me up. I stayed in a really old hotel in the middle of town.

[prole_for_peace]

24. i used to work with a fundy that went that "museum"

apparently there is a spot with both fossilized dinosaur and HUMAN footprints. so that PROVES that man and dino existed at the same time :sarcasm: