CNN keeps bringing up Clark as on their short list of '08 pres. candidates!

[MoonRiver]

Do it Wes!! :kick:

[xultar]

1. Bringing him up so that they can sabotage him again.

[MoonRiver]

2. I don't know.

Seems like they usually just ignore whomever they don't like. Maybe they are actually reporting, gasp, some news. Unbelievable, I know.
:wow:

[tblue]

4. But he's much better positioned this time. He has won over a lot of Dems and

worked hard for the party throughout this election. I saw what the media did to him in 2004, and it was awful. They literally disappeared him in tv news coverage. I remember news stories where they talked about Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Kucinich, Mosely Braun and Sharpton, but made no mention of Clark, even though he was polling 3rd or 4th. I remember that clearly because I was working on the Clark campaign in New Hampshire. After Iowa, it was all Kerry, all the time. I expect conventional wisdom to crown Hillary prematurely, too, burying the other contenders. But Clark has a shot at beating her, I believe.

[xultar]

9. I will never forgive the way the media treated Dean and Clark.

[blm]

13. After Iowa it was the media created Dean "scream" all the time for 2 weeks straight.

No one benefitted from that except the media who got to deflect their own culpability in getting the facts so wrong on the primary in Iowa where they over-reported Dean's ground game and under-reported Kerry's strength there for at least two months before the vote.

The question they avoided answering was Why had they misinformed the public for so long? And was it deliberate disinformation?

Didn't you all notice how overboard they went in their breathless reporting about the scream that never really happened?

[elocs]

23. The first time, the very first time I heard that scream I though, uh-oh. n/t

[BootinUp]

25. I knew it was a problem for him immediately as well. n/t

[tblue]

33. They ALL had their moments of making an indefensible gaffe. I can name at least one

for every Dem candidate. None of it should've amounted to anything, usually it was just a miscommunication. It's the effing media that made mountains out of mole hills and ran every one of them into the ground. And it treated * as though pearls and rubies were flowing out of his stupid mouth.

[blm]

35. That's it in a nutshell. With this media every Dem candidate has to learn the hard way.

Look how Clinton kept his mouth shut for 5 years while they blamed him for "not doing anything" about Bin Laden. He must have known it would be useless countering the media attacks before the 2002 and 2004 elections, so he waited till he gave Bush 5 years of peace and support before he finally countered those attacks last September.

Glad he finally did - it was a seriously effective lie for the RW machine.

[Tinksrival]

27. Your post reminded me of the "sweater"!

That was the last attention the General got in the primaries. "The pandering argyle sweater used to humanize the Army 4-star General." Ha! That was such a joke. It was fifteen degrees in New Hampshire and Wes was cold in that school gym and borrowed his brother in laws sweater. I guess that and Micheal Moore was the best they could come up with to slam Clark and when that didn't work they switched to ignore. :shrug: I hate the media. :mad:

[MH1]

36. (OT) Just to point out...

I think it's really, really wrong to have that pic in your sig.

That child is not responsible for her father's political behavior, and it's utterly wrong to exploit a child's moment of anguish, regardless of one's thinking about what brought her to it.

"Compassionate liberal" is supposedly redundant, you know?

Just my .02.

[tblue]

32. There were some young kids volunteering with me in NH in '04 who kept playing

that scream over and over and laughing about it. I told them to cut that out, and they did. Dean wasn't our candidate, but I had no stomach for disrespecting him. And I was pissed at the media for that, too. That was such BS.

[BootinUp]

17. Media giving you nightmares again?

poor thing.... :pals:

[lyonn]

3. Good, get Clarks name out there

He can handle himself with the media since he has been through the fire already. Wish he had more air time.

[MoonRiver]

5. I was amazed at the air time he got just now.

They were saying now that Feingold is not running people like Clark and Gore would be front runners, or something like that.

Personally, I love Clark and Gore equally. It's hard for me to decide which one I would vote for, given the choice.

[Clark2008]

8. OK... were they listening to me all weekend?

First, I wrote them asking why they keep ignoring him and then I had a... um... spirited discussion on this board with an Edwards supporter who thought Feingold's decision would benefit Johnny. I told them, no, it helps Gore and Clark.

Damn, I'm good. LOL!

[MoonRiver]

11. Wow! I'm impressed!

Is CNN actually paying attention????? :wow::wow::wow:

[tavalon]

19. I was all up for Gore/Feingold

But Feingold doesn't want any part of it apparently. So, I could get on board with a Gore/Clark ticket. I wouldn't care for the other way because Gore was already the VP.

[Blackhatjack]

6. Russ is a list-topper for VP running mate ....

... and he does not have to leave the Senate to take that position. In the interim he gets to be very visible on the floor of the Senate, on CSPAN, and helps shape the agenda. If he was not going to win, there is no better place for him to be to position himself as the VP choice.

I think it would have been a real deficit in the Senate to lose Feingold.
And I just think all the time away from home, engaging in fundraising, was not that appealing to him.

[tavalon]

20. I figured since he wasn't interested in running tor Pres.

that he wouldn't want to run for VP either. There's an awful lot of travelling related to campaigning as a VP too.

[Clark2008]

7. Well, now.... yea!

I wrote them complaining this weekend about the fact that they never mention him.

:7

[hlthe2b]

10. Good... I coud definitely support Wes...

for Pres or VP...

I do wonder what Gore will do... There may be such a dynasty backlash that extends to all insiders after Bush* that the public may overtly seek a newcomer...


Edwards is a terrific progressive, but strongest on domestic issues during a time that international affairs policies will likely continue to be top priority to many voters..


I truly believe that Hillary will be happiest and most effective with a long term senatorial stint-- probably get majority leader asap. If she comes to realize that, she may well abstain from running.

[MrSlayer]

12. It's about time.

Wes Clark is the right man for the job. I know a ton of people who wouldn't normally support a Democrat who would vote for him in a second.

[pamela]

22. I agree completely.

I think he has a very broad appeal and would be our best chance of taking the presidency in '08.

[Glimmer of Hope]

14. I think either Clark or Gore could easily knock out any of the top

Republican bozo contenders. It is good that there is already some buzz about his potential run.

[BootinUp]

15. Must be some players talking him up.

And remember, Soros is backing him too.

[shireen]

16. CLARK 2008!!!

I've had that bumper sticker on my car since 2004. Maybe a CNN producer saw it. :P

U-Wes-A!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[madmax]

31. I love your U Wes A

I can already picture the signs at rallies!

[davidwparker]

18. My short list: Gore, Clark, Edwards

[VOX]

28. You must be peeking at my short list...

Because it's identical!

Cheers -- :toast:

[davidwparker]

37. more like great minds dot dot dot

:toast:

[shireen]

21. Clark's media appearances

in 2003, I first noticed him because he was a frequent commentator on CNN. That's where most other early Clarkies noticed him too, which led to the Draft Clark movement. Does anyone remember how many people signed on? It was around 1-2 million, anyone remember?

Now, the good General is on Fox, taking on O'Liar, Insannity, and other Fox nitwits. And he's been doing a really really good job of it. The bubblebrains who regularly watch Fox have Wes to thank for that small increase in their brain capacity and are realizing, to their dismay, that they're being hoodwinked by the neocon spin machine. Wes knows, we know, that the current administration whackos do not really represent Republicans. The fact is, most reasonable Dems and Republicans have many more common interests than disagreements. Wes will tap that sentiment. We've already seen proof of that in his last campaign. The diversity of his supporters was breathtaking: from hippies to yuppies, conservative ex-military to liberals like Michael Moore, from minimum wage earners to millionaires.

Wes is our best hope of a Democrat in the White House in Jan 2009.

[NNadir]

24. Well, that's not good.

CNN is one of the most confused organizations on earth.

I mean no aspersions however on General Clark, though. He's a fine man in spite of CNN's approval.

He wasn't my candidate in the primaries, but I am very happy to have his voice in our party. I'll bet the General's overall positive contribution in our Presidential campaign did a lot to improve the standing of the Democratic Party within the military. I heard an interview with a retired military officer being interviewed in Virginia down around Norfolk, and he was all out for Jim Webb. Jim Webb, though, was once a Republican. That he is a Democrat probably has something to do with the example of General Clark.

Rummy did the rest.

[The Count]

26. My short list: Clark, Clark, Clark. (but any anti-war candidate gets my vote

[Tatiana]

29. I don't know if that's a good thing or not.

BUT, I have to say, I'm just so proud of Wes. He's really got out there for these midterm elections, stumping and raising money for Dem candidates. He's truly one to watch and I'm more than game to volunteer for his campaign should he choose to challenge for the nomination again.

[Clarkie1]

30. Yes, apparently they also saw the DailyKos poll with Feingold #1 and Clark #2.

I have to say I was sorry to hear Feingold would not be running. He is a real voice of integrity, and I would have appreciated his voice being heard even though he's not my top choice.

[FrenchieCat]

34. I was shocked too!

Clarkie1 took credit....so I guess, I will too.

Wrote letters to many a pundits this weekend!

here's my thread ironically called "Why Don't Pundits Mention Wes Clark as a possibility for 2008?" dated Friday, November 10th!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2957361

Maybe there is a statute of limitation on how long one person can be ignored, when many are discussing what he's doing?

How Weird is that? :crazy: