Can a state strip a child of his citizenship rights?

[Lone_Star_Dem]

Why I ask is State Rep. Leo Berman (R) here in Texas proposed legislation that in effect does just that.

It will make it illegal for children of illegal immigrants, even if the child is born in the US, (which would make them a US citizen) to receive any benefits. This includes WIC, Medicaid, etc. But also they cannot even attend public schools!

I'm OUTRAGED!

[ContraBass Black]

1. If the child is born in the US, the child is a citizen.

There is no way around that.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

2. Which means they should be allowed full access to all services

Correct?

[donco6]

7. I can't see how it could be otherwise.

But then, I didn't think they could suspend habeus corpus, either.

[Dunedain]

13. Foreign diplomats

That is one way around jus soli. Also children born to enemy forces in a hostile occupation of US territory.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

15. "children born to enemy forces in a hostile occupation of US territory"

Does republican ruled Texas count?

[Dunedain]

16. Probably not

But these are two ways a person can be denied citizenship from birthright.

[lisby]

17. It fuckin' should. NT

:hide:

Lisby

[ContraBass Black]

19. I stand corrected.

[treestar]

3. They had best brush up on the 14th Amendment

How someone that ignorant gets elected is beyond me.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

9. We're talking about Texas

Some people here will vote for anything that has an R behind it's name.

I just cannot believe that they would go after the children of illegal immigrants and not the business that employ them!


Does public education count as life, liberty, or property?

[SoCalDem]

21. They'll just build more prisons.. MSRNC can cover them on DocBloc

[Richard Steele]

4. Since those rights are emunerated by the *US* Constitution, I doubt it.

Which is to say it would be ILLEGAL... which
is certainly _NOT_ the same as saying that someone
with an (R) after their name wouldn't do it if they
thought they could get away with it.

[WinkyDink]

5. Another "compassionate"---and criminally INSANE---Republican.

I'm so surprised he's from Texass.

[TygrBright]

6. It comes down to what are "citizenship rights," and...

...things like Medicaid, etc., occupy a questionable zone for that. They can certainly require that applicants for benefits meet certain qualifications, and deny benefits to those who do not meet those qualifications. That's Constitutional.

I'm not sure, however, if having parents who are citizens would stand up as an appropriate qualification if challenged.

Hopefully it won't get that far.

wearily,
Bright

[MidwestTransplant]

8. Sounds like it's just posturing. No way they could just stip away right like that.

That said, I hope everybody in the Hispanic community sees that they are attempting this.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

11. I'll be making sure every hispanic in my community hears about this

[aquart]

10. Unconstitutional.

Give that worthless son of a bitch a reading lesson.

And then hang him. (Oh, I know you can't...yet. But my impulses are frequently as vicious and evil as theirs.)

[Lone_Star_Dem]

12. One reading lesson coming up

As soon as I get all my facts straight I'm going to rip him a new tail.

[ContraBass Black]

18. Before it can be struck down, it will likely be enforced.

My home town redefined "family" last year to oust Hispanics with aunts, uncles, or cousins in the house. The law was enforced by complaint only. Several of the families who were turned in had no criminal records, made no mess, and bothered no one. The law only stood for a couple of weeks, but the Hispanic families forced out of town by it didn't come back.

[Sapere aude]

14. Remeber a little thing called the fourteenth amemdment to the Constitution?

Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

[kevinbgoode]

20. Good Lord! Did the people of Texas STILL leave the stupid

Republican white heterosupremacists in charge of the legislature?