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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:50 PM
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Global Warming Could Wipe Out Most Birds -- WWF
Global warming could wipe out most birds -- WWF
14 Nov 2006 00:01:21 GMT
By Daniel Wallis

NAIROBI, Nov 14 (Reuters) - Unchecked climate change could drive up to 72 per cent of the world's bird species into extinction but the world still has a chance to limit the losses, conservation group WWF said in a report on Tuesday.

From migratory insect-eaters to tropical honeycreepers and cold water penguins, birds are highly sensitive to changing weather conditions and many are already being affected badly by global warming, the new study said.

"Birds are the quintessential 'canaries in the coal mine' and are already responding to current levels of climate change," said the report, launched at a United Nations conference in Kenya on ways to slow warming.

"Birds now indicate that global warming has set in motion a powerful chain of effects in ecosystems worldwide," WWF said.

"Robust evidence demonstrates that climate change is affecting birds' behaviour -- with some migratory birds even failing to migrate at all."

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L13486051.htm
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:56 PM
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1. People think they understand the impact of global warming
They don't know shit.


People I think severely underestimate the sheer magnitude of how life itself on earth is going to be drastically altered...I think people think that it's just going to get a little hotter or something.

The biodiversity of this planet is going to exponentially go down, and there is good evidence that high biodiversity helps guard against mass extinction.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:07 PM
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3. You are on the mark
Slice up a fine Persian carpet into a few dozen neat rectangular pieces. The swatches may together occupy the same area as they did before. But your carpet no longer exists. You're left with a pile of worthless tatters and fabric. That fabric is unraveling as once-unbroken expanses of woods, jungle and grassland, home to untold species of plant and animal life, are sliced up into industrial parks, housing developments, farms, parking lots, malls, roads. And maybe here and there a nature preserve. But a nature preserve is not nature in miniature, however much it might awe a human visitor, for in its isolation and limited extent, it functions as an island. And islands consign animal and plant species to extinction.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:23 PM
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4. perfect analogy!
that's why "restoring" forests is always a poor substitute for not levelling old-growth and virgin forests to turn into toothpicks or mass mailings no-one will read
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:59 PM
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2. an exception:
Pigeons, I'd bet
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:29 PM
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5. I have noticed robins staying over the winter in Toronto the last few years.
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 11:31 PM by buzzard
My babies here of course don't migrate.


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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:35 PM
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6. yeah robins are definitely "short stopped" as it's called
an irony is that many ducks (not a high IQ group) can also be short stopped and stopped from migrating

i do not know what their trigger is to migrate, but for ducks and geese it can easily be overwhelmed by providing enough food on the spot

i think we can save the ducks, robins we'll definitely save, geese no problem, but some of the small stuff such as the warblers who are compelled to migrate are just screwed because there will be nothing at the other end of the route yet they cannot stop themselves from responding to hormonal cues that are triggered by day length

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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:59 PM
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8. I thought of my babies, too.
Nice DYH. Here's mine partaking in a Pastafarian communion:



Nice red-lored, too. :) I love Amazon parrots.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:35 PM
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7. You have become one of my favorite posters. Right up there with
Octafish and a few others. Thanks for your posts. I look forward to them. :applause:
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 12:03 AM
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9. I'll second that definitely posts I read. Does your baby talk??
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bagrman Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 12:27 AM
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10. We to are creatures of our envirment.
It's been said that our stash of food is shrinking, the question should be, will we out last our feathered friends. One or two season with little or nothing to harvest thing s will get way tight quick.

Latr
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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 01:31 AM
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11. Too bad nobody gives a shit. Nice planet while it lasted
you shoulda been here in the glory days.

Look at the number of veiws on any climate change topic. Then look at the number of veiws on anything remotely sex related. That's why we're not doing anything significant about climate change until we have a few million caucasion type humans dead. It's already killing in Africa and the Indian subcontinent.

Thanks for trying.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 01:33 AM
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12. It could have something to do with the fact that we all agree on global warming
There's not exactly a whole lot to discuss on the topic: "We should make changes, but our government doesn't believe that it's even happening because they're retarded."
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bagrman Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 10:46 AM
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16. IT's the economy. Whats good for the economy, burn more oil, coal, turn
your food stock into fuel for your car, consume, consume, consume. 6.5 Bill people is to many for the earth to carry with out a constant supply of oil. Now we'll have a front row seat (on our TVs) to watch as it all crumbles, great societies come and go, the earth will heal, and we'll try again.

Latr
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 06:39 AM
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13. If birds don't eat insects, diseases carried by insects would multiply. In/t
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 06:45 AM
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14. Blah, blah, blah
It doesn't matter. We're not changing anything voluntarily. When I say change, I mean fundamental change. We're not doing it. It would mean having to do with less on a societal level. Good luck birds.
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siligut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 07:28 AM
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15. Maybe it will happen before bushco can declare martial law.
Avian flu pandemic would be such a good reason to crack down, extend loss of freedoms and increase penalties. :sarcasm:
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