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DemPower Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:17 PM
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FOX NEWS?! "An Impeachment Storm Is Bearing Down on Washington"
How do I know this? A popular liberal Web site ran a poll, and 87percent said they wanted impeachment. This, by the way, should tell you why Congress is not going to pass legislation which would make Bush's NSA wiretapping program legal. And double by the way, this is also why you won't see anybody prosecuted for leaking the NSA wiretapping story to The New York Times....

Nancy Pelosi may say no impeachment now, but when the findings of investigation are leaked to The Times and The Post and they are splashed over the front pages and the network newscasts, fending off the impeachers is going to become a very difficult chore for Ms. Pelosi. That's because the angriest of voters this time want impeachment badly. They've been dreaming of it, and they are going to insist they are rewarded for bringing the Democrats to power.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,229155,00.html
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:18 PM
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1. Hey, Faux has been peddling fear so long
Time for them to be scared shitless :evilgrin:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:18 PM
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2. Well, if Fox "News" says so....
:eyes:
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:19 PM
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3. Well, Okay, if Fox insists
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:20 PM
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4. If something THAT BAD is leaked and the American people DEMAND impeachment
I think they should. But only if something THAT BAD comes to light. Like spying on political enemies/causing 9-11/planting the Niger docs.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:22 PM
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5. From the pen of John Gibson...
Since when do we care what the hell John Gibson thinks?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:23 PM
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6. Fox Should Be Careful What They Wish For
the sheeple might get excited and make it happen!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:26 PM
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7. Nemesis.
The name of this storm. Nemesis follows Hubris.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:27 PM
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8. MSRNC is LIBERAL??? Since WHEN???
Oh,wait, I forgot, anyone who doesn't inhabit the same la la land as Pox News has just got to be communist infiltrated liberal media.

Man, aren't they something?
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 05:50 PM
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34. My question, exactly. Not at all misleading, is it?
M$RNC, liberal. :eyes:
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DemPower Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:27 PM
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9. "Congress is not going to pass legislation which would make Bush's NSA wiretapping program legal"
Edited on Tue Nov-14-06 04:28 PM by DemPower
right here he states Bush's wiretapping program is currently illegal

I repeat: FOX Snooze admits Bush's wiretapping program is illegal

Everyone knows warrantless wiretapping is illegal!
We have an immediate case for impeachment right here!
What are we waiting for?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 05:22 PM
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27. inserting arrow to point to your post RIGHT HERE > Fox News Sez Bush's Wiretapping Illegal
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 05:26 PM
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29. Good catch...
...and to DU!
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:28 PM
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10. i'm here in dc and the only impeachment storm i see is on du
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:34 PM
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17. shhhh!
its a secret.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 06:16 PM
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35. well, maybe your perspective is faulty
I recently saw the word IMPEACH spray-painted on a freight car while at a train crossing in rural Nebraska.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 07:42 PM
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37. and I've seen "free dorothy" on bridges --
but members of Congress aren't passing wizard of oz habeas legislation.

Seriously, I think Congress needs to perform its oversight function, hold hearings, etc. But there simply is not enough support for impeachment at this stage to think that elected officials are going to start talking about it or taking direct steps in that direction. If the hearings etc. produce an upsurge in public sentiment for impeachment, then that becomes a viable course of action.

As I noted in another thread: we are one week removed from an election in which, out of 468 campaigns, impeachment was raised as an issue in no more than a relative handful and the few candidates who openly called for impeachment almost universally lost. That is the reality.

And based on that reality -- the reality that impeachment wasn't an issue a week ago -- that the candidates who won election did so on platforms that called for a variety of things, but not for impeachment -- talking about impeachment now is simply premature.

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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 08:16 PM
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40. "free Dorothy" is not a political statement while "Impeach" most certainly is
Polls have indicated quite clearly that the majority of Americans favor impeachment if Bush lied about Iraq.

From November, 2005 -- A YEAR AGO:

"By a margin of 50% to 44%, Americans want Congress to consider impeaching President Bush if he lied about the war in Iraq, according to a new poll commissioned by AfterDowningStreet.org, a grassroots coalition that supports a Congressional investigation of President Bush's decision to invade Iraq in 2003.

The poll was conducted by Ipsos Public Affairs, the highly-regarded non-partisan polling company. The poll interviewed 1,001 U.S. adults on October 6-9.

The poll found that 50% agreed with the statement:

"If President Bush did not tell the truth about his reasons for going to war with Iraq, Congress should consider holding him accountable by impeaching him."

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/3528

Another poll, from January, 2006:

New Zogby Poll Shows Majority of Americans Support Impeaching Bush for Wiretapping

By a margin of 52% to 43%, Americans want Congress to consider impeaching President Bush if he wiretapped American citizens without a judge's approval, according to a new poll commissioned by AfterDowningStreet.org, a grassroots coalition that supports a Congressional investigation of President Bush's decision to invade Iraq in 2003.

The poll was conducted by Zogby International, the highly-regarded non-partisan polling company. The poll interviewed 1,216 U.S. adults from January 9-12.

The poll found that 52% agreed with the statement:

"If President Bush wiretapped American citizens without the approval of a judge, do you agree or disagree that Congress should consider holding him accountable through impeachment."

http://www.democrats.com/bush-impeachment-poll-2

It's simply not true that impeachment has not been an issue -- it was certainly one of the frightening buzzwords constantly used by Faux Newz and other RNC propaganda outlets during the past weeks to discourage Americans from voting for those crazy Dems. But it didn't scare voters away, and I do believe they expect some serious oversight and real investigation by the Dems.





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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 11:45 PM
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48. and it is undeniably true that it was not an issue in this election
And thus no member is going to risk being accused of bait and switch by self starting on impeachment. Your poll data simply proves my point. If -- IF -- hearings, investigations etc. convince the public regarding the scope of the administration's misdeeds, the demand for impeachment will grow. But demanding it, or even discussing it, before those investigations, hearings etc. take place is putting the cart before the horse.

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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:29 PM
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11. Has anyone considered that maybe
just maybe the reason the wingnuts are peddling the impeachment meme so hard is because they see the advantage for repukes. If chimpy is impeached then Cheney is president and McCain(?) is vice or shortly after Cheney also leaves office and leaves a repuke that is an incumbent to run in'08 something chimp can't and Cheney won't do. Otherwise the '08 run starts on a level playing field and they don't want that.
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DemPower Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:34 PM
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16. Bring it on! Seriously, let's see Cheney step up...
That guy would run so fast- there is much more evidence on him out there. All we have to do is pull up those maps of Iraq from the secret energy meetings...

I think maybe Fox is trying to create division in the Dems but that doesn't mean that the people who are right must keep quiet- what it means is that Conyers and Pelosi better step up and do the people's bidding. FOX want us to get pissed at the Dem leaders sure-but we won't be if they do their damn jobs and uphold our constitution. Simple.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 08:38 PM
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43. Cheney will not step up
at least not for long, I think I said that in my post. Where's Cheney now? He's got a bad heart:nopity: his health won't allow him to be president for long. There are rumors of him stepping down any way.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:42 PM
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20. The advantage they have is if
Edited on Tue Nov-14-06 04:42 PM by mmonk
everybody thinks there are no impeachable offenses. So quite the opposite. This administration may even become a legend for them in the future with their rewritten histories if impeachment doesn't occur.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 08:45 PM
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45. There is no question that there are impeachable
offenses, there are criminal offenses. They admit they withdrew from from the ICC to avoid prosecution. Patience, they will get theirs, but an air tight case must be built against them. I would rather see them in jail then simply dishonored.
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clichemoth Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 05:26 PM
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28. Has anyone considered that maybe, just maybe,,,
Faux is acting like they've got a clue so they can change with the tides and become a "liberal" network? Ditto for the rest of the M$M. They think that if they're on our side that we'll forget what the real problems with the corporate media are?

Nope, it's too late for that. Maybe if they'd stood up and reported truth instead of immense exaggerations about Gore's "lies" in 2000 or reported the truth about Iraq that every reasonably informed person in the world who doesn't rely on the spin machine already knew before Operation Infinite Oilgrab began, it would have worked. Not now.

It is interesting that Gibson admits that the wiretaps are illegal and seems to see impeachment as being pretty much inevitable, though. They know what's coming.

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:30 PM
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12. Poor babies at Faux
They figure that everyone is a bull goose loony as they are; and while it's possible for the sane to act crazy, it's not so easy for the crazy to act sane, and sanity will be back in style in 2007.

Meanwhile, if the evidence is developed, and the circumstances warrant, then yes, George W. Bush could very well be impeached and removed from office. But unlike the Republicans, we're not going to go forward unless we can make a case that will result in a conviction. Kenneth Starr and his band of elves couldn't even get a majority vote on any of their articles of impeachment.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:31 PM
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13. Media matters has already "impeached" Bill "Loofah" O'Reilly and Brit "Human Shar-Pei" Hume!
God bless Stephanie Miller for propagating the "Human Shar-Pei" description of Brit...
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:32 PM
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14. I live in DC and no one told me about this! nt
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L1A1Rocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:37 PM
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18. Question
Hey folks, been lurking for a few months. Finally registered during the election. Anyhow, regarding impeaching President Bush. Can someone tell me what exactly the impeachable crime is that President Bush has committed? I'm not talking about any kind of rhetoric like "Bush lied, people died". I'm asking what specific high crime or misdemeanor has the President committed?
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DemPower Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:46 PM
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22. illegal wiretapping without a warrant
Bush admitted it on national TV
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 05:09 PM
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23. if it can be proved that Bush knew -
Edited on Tue Nov-14-06 05:40 PM by paulk
that the info his administration was relying on to push the nation to invade Iraq - was false...

and specifically the reasons for invading he was required to give Congress relating to the IWR(that Iraq had WMD and was a threat to the national security of the United States)...

good article on the subject here - by Republican John Dean:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/06/06/findlaw.analysis.dean.wmd/


ed for sp.

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clichemoth Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 05:35 PM
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31. It can be proven...
After all, it's not like anyone who wasn't worried about their re-election campaigns didn't know it was all a lie before the IWR vote ever took place. And everyone also knew that Manuchar Ghorbanifar was a liar and a fraud, but yet they trusted him to provide this evidence of Iraqi WMD.

The real question is why our elected officials, who are supposed to have more knowledge about these things than the rest of us, fell for it.

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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 05:39 PM
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32. the point really is that Bush violated the provisions
of the IWR. The IWR was not the free pass to war that many think it was.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 05:17 PM
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24. here
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:33 PM
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15. I can't wait to get home to email this low life POS
myword@foxnews.com
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:39 PM
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19. How can they impeach a man who did nothing wrong?
"DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, IF YOU DID NOTHING WRONG!" Pretty simple!
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 04:45 PM
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21. Good! And I hope it's a Category Five!
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 05:20 PM
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25. If he committed criminal acts, he will be impeached
If he lied about a blowjob, he won't. What does Fux think, that if we find he lied to Congress, he should somehow be immune from punishment?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 05:20 PM
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26. Best don your hip boots and hang on -- what goes around comes around

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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 05:29 PM
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30. A popular liberal website: MSNBC.com bwahahahha! n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 05:47 PM
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33. impeachment by the will of the people. THAT is the way it should
be. not against the will of the people but a handful in congress like the did with clinton. that is the losing bet. let the people decide and dems ride along to the will of the people. we win, they lose
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 07:18 PM
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D'ya Think?
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clichemoth Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 07:56 PM
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39. No, I don't.
Not that it wouldn't be great and all, but for it to happen, we have to nail both Bush and Dick at the same exact time. That won't happen. One of them will stick around long enough to ensure that a Republican remains atop the chain of succession.

Besides, if the election fraud comes out, the fair thing to do would be to appoint the person who'd be President right now if Bush hadn't cheated: Al Gore. Kerry wouldn't have run against an incumbent Gore, so the first stolen election should trump the second one.



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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 07:18 PM
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36. D'ya Think?
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 07:44 PM
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38. There is no such thing....
Of mainstream LIBERAL media. Its a Myth like Jesus and G-d.
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splat@14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 08:26 PM
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41. I hope they use the Katrina response plan to deal with this storm...
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SouthernBelle82 Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 08:28 PM
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42. I betcha this "liberal website"
was MSNBC. That's the only website I can think of. Plus they seem to have this thing against MSNBC because of Olbermann.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 08:43 PM
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44. Am I reading this correctly? Faux is saying that if the Dems investigate
the findings of these investigations will cause the public to rise up and demand impeachment? They're admitting this is a criminal and corrupt administration? That there is a lot there that the investigations will find? I'm stunned!
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 09:19 PM
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47. Hell, Cheney blatantly said he would not respond to subpoenas...
gee, why was he expecting subpoenas?
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 08:51 PM
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46. Brit's Downing Street memo's spoke volumes on Bush lead up to war
from the get-go Bush/Cheney cherry picked intel to justify the invasion of Iraq, (I even sound like what I've read...!) geeeesh!
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:22 PM
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49. "evil, vengenful,dems" narrative, but the Storm is coming -- a Reality Storm

FAUX's John Gibson undoubtedly intended to advance the "evil, vengenful, Dems are coming" narrative, but in the process, he let's his belief that Bush is a crook out of the bag.

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