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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:16 AM
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Poll question: Do You Favor An Independent Kurdistan?
I do...

A free and independent Palestine

A free and independent Tibet

A free and independent Israel

A free and independent Kurdistan
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:18 AM
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1. I support the right of self determination for all nations, but
that doesn't mean I think it will be feasible/possible in all cases, Kurdistan being one of them. Unfortunate, that.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:20 AM
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2. They Seem To Have It Together In Iraq
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:23 AM
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3. I just think that the tensions with Turkey
and the way in which the Kurdish nation has been dispersed and all of the past issues are going to be incredibly difficult to overcome. Especially when we're talking about the oilfields of the north. I have a hard time believeing that the rest of Iraq is going to be willing to give that up. I'd like to think it would be feasible, but I really don't know.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:41 AM
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7. There Is No "Iraq" Anymore
-:(

Might as well at least get justice for the Kurds...

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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:44 AM
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8. I'm long-term optimistic for Iraq...
very, very long-term. What Iraq really needs is a leader who is charismatic enough to bring them back together as they were in the past, as Iraqis. Not as Shia, Sunni, and Kurd. I don't see the 3 state solution as viable, considering the resource distribution. Iraq was once a nation of people who identified as Iraqis. It can be again, I hope. Frankly, let's just hand it off to Britain, since they created the whole mess in the first place, so many decades ago.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:46 AM
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9. I Don't Know That Saddam Was Charismatic But I Do Know He Ruled With A Iron Fist
I'm not bullish on Iraq...Short term or long term... You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube...
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:47 AM
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10. I didn't say that he was
But I do think that's what they need, if they are to remain as one state.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:55 AM
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11. I Know You Didn't Say That...
Edited on Fri Nov-17-06 07:55 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
My model is Tito... He kept Yugoslavia together by sheer force of personality and will; and a little force. But he wasn't a gratuitous sadist like Saddam.


Sad to say that the only thing that can hold a nation together in the twenty first century is a "benevolent" despot. That's where the small c conservative in me comes out...Edmund Burke was right when he said "we must take man as he is not the way we want him to be."
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rogerashton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:29 AM
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4. one world
As an advocate of world government, I don't advocate an independent anybody.

One world, folks -- love it or leave it.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:38 AM
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6. Can I And People Who Think Like Me Run This "One World" ?
If the answer's yes I'm for it...
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:37 AM
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5. Yes, but Turkey will never allow it. -n/t
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