I no longer am affiliated with the Democratic Party.

[MoonRiver]

Flame if you will, but my association with these wimps has come to an end. Kennedy and Kerry fought the good fight but too many others just want to be losers, imcpo. I won't give Democrats another cent, and will lift not one finger to help any of their campaigns. WHAT'S THE POINT? I may vote for a Dem, or I might write in my beloved dog's name. She could probably do a better job than these losers.
:rantoff:

[helderheid]

1. self deleted.

[New Earth]

2. and you have every right.

honestly i dont' know what i consider myself, so i can't necessarily 'leave' a party. i do see it seems more true everyday that the difference between Repubs and Democrats is dwindling.

Still love Kerry though, and of course those who stood up today.

[MoonRiver]

7. Not enough stood up. That's the problem.

I've hoped, worked, and fought for 5 f'n years to see them do the right thing. I now consider the party as a whole to be hopeless. It's the sad, but inevitable conclusion I have reached.

[stray cat]

3. I'm going to support Bill Frist

at least thats the type of Republican who will benefit if I don't support Dems.

[New Earth]

5. how long is that going to go on?

support Dems or else, you are supporting Repubs.

that leaves NO room for change, sorry....guess it's Dems v. Repubs forever?

[mmonk]

8. Didn't Frist and bush get a victory today?

A very big and long lasting one because enough elected dems didn't do their duty. Seems like they benefit either way.

[Generator]

4. Don't forget local politics which can still have

a big impact on your real life day to day. But beyond that-I agree with you basically have for some time. There really is no point. They have no power-they don't want to use any power they might have-and the Republicans are so corrupt or so blind that they way out of this mess for this country is going to come from voting. It's going to be a little messier than that. I just hope it doesn't take 60 years like the Soviet Union.

[WildEyedLiberal]

6. Just support those with the courage to fight.

Just send individual candidates money to support them for doing the right thing.

[William769]

9. Then why are you here?

:shrug:

[MoonRiver]

11. I've been here for 4 years. Not exactly a newcomer.

:eyes:

[Generator]

17. Is this only Democratic party underground then?

Really when I came here I thought it was about Democratic ideals. I'm waiting for Skinner to wake up and smell the coffee. I adore and worship the free speech and the comradeship-but the Democratic party doesn't exist as a viable way to get a damn thing. If you think it does-please tell me what we have achieved since the nightmare happened? Hillary 2008!

That's our answer. No, our answer to tell the truth about what is happening in our country not live in a dream world where loyalty to a party that no longer represents you is considered a viable means to an end.

[JNelson6563]

10. Then I assume you'll leave DU

Adios.

[ScreamingMeemie]

23. Big tent. Independents allowed. Until they talk freeper talk.

I can't help it, but it's how I feel right now as well.

[MuseRider]

29. That is my option.

I hope it remains true that Independents are allowed. I certainly plan on continuing the way I have but do not feel I can remain a part of this party in name after today.

I wish I had something optimisitc to say to you after you pumped me up the other day but maybe the time will still come, just not today. :hug: for you and your daughter, I have thought a lot about her since you wrote about her the other day. All our daughters.

[ScreamingMeemie]

34. Muse, that means a lot to me. Thank you.

I don't feel as alone as I did watching my computer screen three hours ago. My daughter came up to me as those Aye votes came in and said,"Don't cry Mama...please don't cry..." and it killed me. I had to leave the room.

On an upside, my daughter can vote next presidential. That's one more to the good.

To our daughters Muse! :toast: And to you! :hug:

...

:cry:

[MuseRider]

40. I was at the farm

working my frustration out knowing that Randi would announce the votes as they came in. I was all alone and had myself a good old fashioned cry. I have always been so proud to be a Democrat, my truck is a testament to Democratic ideals. BUT, I feel that there is now no other way to make a statement and I can still do the good work of a strong progressive from outside the party.

I experienced life before Roe V Wade and it was very ugly. I remember "Whites Only" signs. I remember the days when we would have to wait and carry our wheelchair bound classmates over the steps to get into the classroom buildings. I remember when my GLBT friends would only tell a few of us their real stories for fear of being totally ostracized (that is only a little different for many of them even now). I can't be a part of a party that would allow a vote for someone who seems to think that those things are OK or belonged to a group that talked about keeping those groups of people out of higher education. That does not even deal with the ideology of the unitary executive.

Just blowing off a little steam here, sorry.

Sisterhood my dear dear Mrs. Grumpy will become even stronger as we see the attitudes continue to change. We will take care of each other. Maybe we need a womans party? That would drive them all over the edge. :hug: again.

[Rex_Goodheart]

12. Today was the last straw.

I'll still vote for Democrats over Republicans, but they're not getting any of my dollars nor none of my volunteer time.

A Party that doesn't uphold its own platform is not a party... it's a joke.

[sandnsea]

13. You opposed the filibuster, didn't you?

I could have sworn that just last week you were saying the filibuster was all a stunt. I always thought you were a Green anyway.

[MoonRiver]

14. Are you talking to me?

If so you're full of it. Nothing personal, but that's total baloney.

[meisje]

15. yawn

[Clarkie1]

16. Call back when you regain your sanity...eom

[mydreamcametrue]

18. Later, dude.

[tsuki]

19. I AM affiliated w/ the Democratic Party. I am not affiliated w/

those that voted for Alito today. I want the party purged of those people.

[Selatius]

21. It's not your party anymore than it is mine. It's a big-tent party

Remember that folks like Joe Lieberman can call themselves a Democrat just as much as anyone of us can. You can't purge anybody.

[MoonRiver]

22. Maybe I'll take a second look if and when they are.

I'm not holding my breath. This is just one too many losses for me to stomach. I don't understand what is wrong with this party. But today proved to me it's not just black box voting. Our elected representatives are either bought off, or are addicted to losing. Either way, I'm outta here.

[mmonk]

20. Can't blame you.

I still will support different capaigns, but not the party apparatus. Dishonest allies can be worse than honest opponents.

[Gregorian]

24. Look at it this way- you don't have to leave. They left us.

All we can do is rebuild it. I want something new, too. But that's because they changed our party. Let's change it back. It's a lot easier than starting over with a new one. Especially in a political system that addresses two parties.

[MoonRiver]

25. They left us alright. But I have no idea about how to rebuild.

From my perspective right now that sounds impossible. I hope it happens though.

[Teaser]

26. Whatever glows your nightlight

Because what you want matters, right?

[skipos]

27. "WHAT'S THE POINT?"

That's the same thing many people were saying in 2000 when they decided to vote third party. Flash forward to 2005 and you have a couple thousand dead soldiers, two conservative supreme court appointments, a mediocre economy, Katrina etc.

All things that wouldn't be taking place if we had a dem president and dem majorities in the senate and congress.

What's the point? It could get a lot worse if you let it. I won't. I will always work for a dem president and dem majorities.

[LoZoccolo]

28. Wow that makes sense.

Now you can't vote in the primary. That should get you what you want.

[FreedomAngel82]

30. Instead of you leaving the party all you have to do

is vote them out.

[Gothic Sponge]

31. I gave up on the Dems months ago. They are no better than repugs.

While I do think some do good work. It is clear they are the lesser of two evils. I'm now all for the green party.

[mello1]

32. I will register as an Independent this week.

I will only support candidates of any party that stands for what I stand for. Even if they lose every time, for me, it's about principle because there is nothing else left.

[ChipsAhoy]

45. Best answer yet

I cannot handle defeat after defeat by my party who doesn't have the balls to stand up for us. They took the stolen elections laying down and now this life-time position on the highest court in the land.

I think I feel worse tonight than I did in 2000 OR 2004. this is horrid!

[NoPasaran]

55. Get used to losing with 1 percent instead of 49 percent

[Democrats_win]

33. Support 25 who stood for America. others r like lukewarm H2O 2 b spit ou

t. Because cold water is good to drink, hot water makes tea but lukewarm water is good for nothing.

[jarnocan]

36. true

www.worldcantwait.net I agree!

[TallahasseeGrannie]

35. Look, I am probably one of the most

moderate folks on this board, and even I was hugely disappointed. I really thought we'd make a showing. Didn't think we'd shut it down, but thought we'd make them nervous.

So you gotta do what you gotta do.

[KittyWampus]

37. Then stop posting at DEMOCRATIC Underground

[ScreamingMeemie]

38. That isn't fair. People are feeling hurt and betrayed. There are

independents who are welcome here, as long as they are progressive. We're eating our own by kicking people when they are down, and that's not like you. :(

[ChipsAhoy]

43. I agree - and I'm switching sides.

Independent. I've had it.

thank you for your kind words, Mrsgrumpy

[ScreamingMeemie]

44. Welcome to DU, ChipsAhoy.

I welcome you. :toast:

[ChipsAhoy]

52. Thanks. I saw the DU on a bumper sticker

Just recently, I saw a blue bumper sticker that just said "DemocraticUnderground.com" on a car parked at my post office. I came home and found your place on the net.

I have to say that I am really happy to meet so many like-minded people all in one place. Sometimes I feel like the lone gal out, but not here.

PS - Tonight I feel like hell, but your welcome was a high point. thanks

[Erika]

54. Welcome! N/T

[ChipsAhoy]

56. thnx!! -- n/t

[alcibiades_mystery]

46. Democratic Underground is not a Democratic Party organ

It never has been and it never will be. It is for progressives tout court, and has always been that way. I am a proud independent. I have never, ever been affiliated with the Democratic Party (hell, I distrust the fascism inherent in the Party Loyalist of ANY stripe). You don't get to police this space as some Democratic Party apparatchik, or some street corner Commisar, whispering condemnations to the secret police. Just who the fuck do you think you are?

[Don Claybrook]

48. Read the goddamned rules page

Then open your trap again.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

39. I understand how you feel

If any candidate wants my support they have to merit my support. That isn't done by simply being a member of a party in name only.

I've supported and voted for independents before and will again. If they're the best choice in my eyes they'll be the one getting my vote.

The thing is I will also support any Democrat that has earned my support.

For an example I will be voting for a Democratic candidate as Texas's next governor. The two independents are not worthy of my support (one is a republican running from a costly primary and the other is an idiot) and one of the democratic candidates I like a lot the other better than either of the two independents.

[Nightwing]

41. I'll never leave the party

But I will hold out on financial support for the Dem losers that voted yes to cloture.

[Texasgal]

42. See ya!

We need people who are committed to work for change, people who are committed to working together to make things possible.

We don't like slackers who drop out after an event that's no good.

See ya... we don't need you really.

[stlsaxman]

50. stlsaxman gets down on one knee before Texasgal- "Will you marry me?"

I'd be honored to spend the rest of my life with one who has a fighting spirit like yours! NGU!

[Texasgal]

53. You have my hand...

as long as you can dance!!! :P

[benevolent dictator]

47. I second the no longer affiliated bit, but I still plan

to help out the REAL Democrats. The 19 who voted for cloture can kiss my ass. I will do what I can to get them out and get REAL Democrats in.

[seabeyond]

49. i never was affiliated with dems, still busting my ass off to get them

elected. so what????????????/

[tedzbear]

51. Me too!

I have registered Green Party. I might as well vote my conscience since the loyal opposition refuses to do its job.

[MrDem12]

57. Bush will get 2 OR 3 MORE PICKS!!!

Bush will get 2 OR 3 MORE PICKS!!! DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!!!!?????

I am so incredibly depressed! Everything we have worked so hard for will get wiped out! EVERYTHING!

We need to start a third party. That is the only answer!