I was in Wal Mart today....

[pepperbear]

It was EXTRA busy, per the usual for a Saturday. There were plenty of good, honest, hard-working American people just like me and they were spending their hard earned money 21st century style. The lines were full of folks just trying to get by, get ahead, get anything. Folks just trying to make a dollar last until Tuesday. Folks just trying to work hard, trying to live some semblence of the dream they'd been promised, the same one their kids are supposedly dying for.

Now I ask you; with all that going on, do you honestly think anyone really cares that Wal Mart is consulting with gay business interests?


WalMart, though your long term effect on world consumer culture remains to be seen, you're still one of the biggest contributors to the American economy. You owe it to your country not to discriminate.

Wal Mart, please stand your ground against these tyrannical ninnies.

:rant: :rant: :rant:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

1. I'd rather they treated their employees decently and

that 98% of the crap they sell wasn't made in China.

Walmart is dead to me.

[barb162]

3. I try to stay out of there

and I wish they'd treat their employees like humans instead of robots

[Nomad559]

9. Most of the hardware

from the Apple Corp Is made In China, but Apple gets a free pass here on DU.

:shrug:

[physioex]

13. I dislike Walmart waaay more than Apple.....

But rest assured that Apple does not get a "free pass". Although their products are highly innovative and easy to use, they have a long history of keeping things propietary and not sharing in their technology.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

79. Apple didn't advertise "made in the USA" and then

switch to cheap imports like WM did, and I've never heard of their employees suing them for mistreatment.

Sucks their stuff isn't manufactured here though.

[Nomad559]

83. No, Apple employees have not sued Apple

But Apple shareholders have filed suit against Apple

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=15635

Apple shareholders have filed suit against the company, in the latest development of the options furore.

The shareholders claim Apple’s CEO Steve Jobs and other Apple executives, changed their option-grant dates to reap "millions of dollars in unlawful profits," and filed "false and misleading statements" with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, according to a Bloomberg News report.

Nasdac has threatened to remove Apple from the stock exchange if the company fails to submit its latest financial report that will explain the reasons for the errors in options accounting.

Apple’s shareholders are likely to lose out if the company is delisted from the stock exchange.

[Nick Fallon]

86. A surprising discovery....

That is a lil bit a of myth when it comes to the "made in china" shtick. The materials may have been made in china, but the manufacturing of items (most of them) are produced in america. I was shocked when I saw it on the Travel Channel. You be surprised.

[Ron Green]

2. They stepped over the line long ago.

Unfair to employees AND suppliers, predatory in the way they move into markets and undercut locally-owned merchants, deceitful in waving the flag while decimating the balance of trade with China, and claiming it's all about good ol' American competition and low prices.

[barb162]

4. That's right; I think there are employee wage suits

against them in just about every state. And most of the stuff they sell is junk.

[jeff30997]

5. I've never entered a Wal Mart ..

Always boycotted them!!!:grr:

[proud2BlibKansan]

71. Good for you!

[Tarheel_Dem]

6. Unfortunately, I didn't wake to Walmart....

until about 5 years ago, but I don't know if there's anything they could do at this point to get me to ever darken their doorway again. I can't believe it, but I probably spent $400/$500 a month in Walmart if you include groceries.

[DainBramaged]

7. Fuck the Waltons

http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/

17 Christy Walton United States 51 15.9 United States
17 Jim Walton United States 58 15.9 United States
19 S Robson Walton United States 62 15.8 United States
20 Alice Walton United States 56 15.7 United States
21 Helen Walton United States 86 15.6 United States


what can you do with 75+ BILLION in wealth? Feed a few thousand kids? Buy cars for the needy? Get chemo for cancer patients? Open a few hundred libraries?

May they realize as they sputter their last breaths that wealth doesn't give you eternal life.

[alittlelark]

12. They have already F*ed themselves.

Their father would dis-inherit them if he could. He was all about 'Made in the USA' - they are about the other (cheaper) side of the world.

[proud2BlibKansan]

72. They bought a charter school company

and are doing their best to ruin education, just like good republicans.

http://www.schoolfutures.com/

[AJ9000]

8. What were you doing in Walmart you Bush loving freeper!

Alright don't get all sensitive on me, I'm just jostlin ya.

[pepperbear]

10. I was young and I needed the work!

:hi:

[alittlelark]

11. I'm more concerned about slavery in sweatshops

than gay labor interests. Walmart wants you to ignore the slave workers and focus on frivolities ie- gay issues. Lets get you all excited about things we will do nothing about. 95% of Americans would be appalled if the sweatshops realities were exposed..... only 50% would be appalled by GLBT members being discriminated against.


It's been almost 5 years since I waded into a Walmart cesspool... may I never do so again.

[Jamastiene]

14. I agree about the slave workers and how atrocious that is, but

I wouldn't say that discrimination against gay people is "frivolities." Frankly, I'm puzzled by that part of your post.

[alittlelark]

17. It's kind of like Maslows Heirarchy of Needs.

Slavery is a more important issue than Gay rights.


I'm willing to debate this if you wish. I am hellbent on slave labor as being the most evil occurrence on the planet.

[alittlelark]

20. It's kind of like Nader in the 2000 race.

Yeah, he had GREAT points... and he was RIGHT! But in the big picture he was a smear on the windshield. The BIG BUGS WON. Slave labor is a BIG ISSUE. We may not see their faces as our forefathers did, but we are wearing their clothes.

Slave labor is a bigger issue to me than GLBT Rights....sorry, but it is true.

[Jamastiene]

44. Maybe to you, but do you know for certain where your clothes come

from or are you just blowing smoke to make rude comments toward GLBT people on this board?

[Sapphocrat]

15. WTF are you talking about? n/t

[alittlelark]

23. Maslows Heirarchy of needs.

Slavery being more important than GLBT issues.

[Sapphocrat]

25. Big revelation:

Slavery is outlawed now. Has been for some time, in case you hadn't noticed.

So, WTF is your point again?

[alittlelark]

26. You are not looking them in the eye.

They are continents away.

They are making your clothes, they are suffering... those that ignore these facts are ignoring reality.

[Sapphocrat]

29. Not _my_ clothes, dude.

I remain well aware of who makes my clothes before handing over my hard-won money.

Are you as aware of who's fucking over LGBTs as I am of who's running sweatshops?

[alittlelark]

31. Did you actualy buy 'made in the USA' clothes?

Do you know that all that has to be done to say'Made in the USA' is to have the label attached at sales time and forget the fact that foriegn seamstresses made these clothes.


It gets embarrassing if we look deeper.



Find out where your clothes are made.

[Sapphocrat]

33. Yes, I do.

Any other questions?

How fucking dare you assume I'm a sheep?

[alittlelark]

39. I'm just posting....

I have no barnyard assunptions

[Sapphocrat]

42. Don't play dumb. n/t

[alittlelark]

47. I know you want to bait something

Go to sleep.


I wish other DUer's had given me that advice in the past.

[foreigncorrespondent]

54. ROFLMAO!!!

Sapph wanting to bait???? You are the one who has been baiting in this thread sweetheart. not the other way around.

So yes, best take your own advice and go to bed.

[foreigncorrespondent]

56. Self delete

Double post!

[Sapphocrat]

57. I wish...

...other DUers had given you that advice in the past, too.

[foreigncorrespondent]

43. Yeah!!!

God you are so full of it. Totally unbelievable.

[Jamastiene]

46. Say you know the barnyard pretty well, huh? n/t

[alittlelark]

51. I know that my sheep are not interested in %*%&^$$^#@

I know my neighborhood - very liberal and confused.

[Jamastiene]

55. Sure beats being conservative and rejected by sheep. n/t

[Sapphocrat]

59. And when did you come here?

What year? What is it that makes you so confident in the *cough* liberalism of your neighbors?

Do tell me. I've been here, save for eight years, since 1961. Tell me how "liberal" this backwater burg of bigotry is. Enlighten me.

[foreigncorrespondent]

36. You are totally unbelievable!

yes Sapph does by American made products I can more than guarantee you that!!!!

Best you back off buddy, before one of us gets TS'd.

[Clark2008]

67. Breaking up this side thread a little

But, where do you buy American clothes?

I'm a HUGE proponant of buying American (and I always get slammed on these boards for supporting Ford and GM, but I digresss), but I have trouble finding American-made clothing, now that Levi's and most textiles have gone overseas.

Thanks in advance!

:hi:

[Sapphocrat]

82. Fierce said it...

...and now has the old ILGWU "Look for the union label" jingle stuck in my head (thanks, Fierce!). :)

Also check out American Apparel -- everything's made in downtown L.A., it's cool stuff, and the company is green (as well as red, white, and blue): very environmentally-friendly, energy-conscious, and moving toward using mostly sustainable cotton. Workers are well paid above minimum wage, too (around $12-$13/hour).

http://www.americanapparel.net/

[foreigncorrespondent]

87. Would love to give you advice...

...but in Australia I don't actually buy American made products. I stick to Australian made items. I like quality in my clothes.

Sapph has given you advice though. :)

[jmowreader]

89. Prison Blues comes to mind

http://www.prisonblues.com

All their clothes are made in the USA...by inmates at a medium-security prison in Oregon, who see the Prison Blues factory as THE best job in the joint.

[Fierce]

68. If you look for a union label, you don't have to worry about that.

Makes it a lot easier. And it just happens to be better made, too.

[alittlelark]

35. Big Picture...... You vs. slave laborers making clothing

Sigh.... honestly... I GET IT. This is not the right fight. Let's get walmart fot monopoly or Price-fixing.... or for just being corporate assholes.

[Sapphocrat]

38. You do NOT...

...FUCKING "GET" ANYTHING.

You have baited me, big-time, and pissed me off. ARE YOU HAPPY?

[Jamastiene]

48. Comparing something that happens in another country

to what happens here is like comparing apples to oranges. What happens here in America is what affects GLBT people here in America. If you want to make it a global issue, other countries are far ahead of America on GLBT rights. And let's not forget that slavery in America was outlawed ages ago.

[LostinVA]

69. No, what it is is civil rights of US citizens -- It is the right fight

And you're trying to compare this to deplorable labor practices overseas. YOU are setting up a totality false construct to either get in a jab or to at civil rights for ALL Americans, or just to hear yourself talk about some hierarchy that has nothing to do with anything in the struggle for citizens' right.

You are trying to compartmentalize and marginalize us... your tactic isn't working, as much as you want it to.

And why the hell certain people think that only one injustice can be tackled at a time is beyond me.

[alittlelark]

37. I know who's running corporate sweatshops

You are comfortably close..... Lets chat PM me



Gina

[Sapphocrat]

40. Take it off-line? No.

Anything you have to say to me, say it out in the open.

[alittlelark]

45. What can I say outside of what I have already posted?

Honestly..... there is no more BARE to bare.


You are 'local' I am a few zip #'s away.



I will fight the good fight - or I will die defending a friend.

[Jamastiene]

52. You know the companies, then spill it.

Tell us who they are instead of playing games with us just to be cryptic. And don't claim to be our friend when you have said our rights are unimportant.

[Sapphocrat]

53. No, you are not even one Zip away. You are in my Zip

And somehow, I have the feeling we've never met up at a city/town council meeting where MY rights were at stake.

[Jamastiene]

50. Then make an announcement here and stop trying

to lure GLBT people off to the side. I know what happens when people who think like you do, do that. It is never good for the gay person who falls for it.

[murielm99]

61. So, Maslow's hierarchy only applies

to heteros?

Physiological needs like hunger and thirst are on the bottom level. Needs like safety and protection are the next level up, but pretty close to the bottom.

So, GLBT people are not entitled to safety and protection at the simplest level? Basic rights like survival (not getting murdered for being gay),and the right to work and live where they please, are very central to those pesky GLBT issues you seem to be dismissing.

I can't believe I am seeing this at DU. Of course I say the same thing any time I see posters saying that we need to abandon basic women's rights, like abortion, so that we can win elections.

When does this shit end? Fuck Maslow's hierarchy if you are going to distort it.

[Sapphocrat]

62. murielm99, I just could kiss you.

That would be totally inappropriate, and my gf would kill me, but I just could. ;)

[foreigncorrespondent]

63. That's ok...

...because your girlfriend wants to have her babies. ;)

[ThomCat]

74. You are totally misusing the Hierarchy of needs!

It is intended to identify what is most essential for life, not for the political purpose of dismissing people as not-tormented-enough.

Yes, in any given sitation make sure people have food first, and then shelter, and someplace down the list is freedom and equality. But it's a perversion of the intent of that hierarchy to insist one situation invalidates the concern for another.

That is your limited scope of moral concern. That doesn't come from anyplace in the social sciences.

[donco6]

75. Maslow's Hierarchy.

Here's Maslow's hierarchy:



Here's the lowest rung -

Physiological needs
The physiological needs of the organism, those enabling homeostasis, take first precedence. These consist mainly of:

the need to breathe
the need to regulate homeostasis
the need to eat
the need to dispose of bodily wastes
If some needs are unmet, a human's physiological needs take the highest priority. As a result of the prepotency of physiological needs, an individual will deprioritize all other desires and capacities. Physiological needs can control thoughts and behaviors, and can cause people to feel sickness, pain, and discomfort.

Maslow also places sexual activity in this category, as well as bodily comfort, activity, exercise, etc. While several of these activities are important, many are not essential to survive.

I don't believe a slave falls into this category. Indeed, the slave owner has a vested interest in keeping the slave *alive*.

I would posit that both slavery and gay discrimination issues occupy the same level in Maslow, i.e., Safety Needs, Security and Protection.

<snip from Wiki, which is accurate>

Safety needs
When physiological needs are met, the need for safety will emerge. Safety and security rank above all other desires. These include:

Physical security - safety from violence, delinquency, aggressions
Security of employment
Security of revenues and resources
Moral and physiological security
Familial security
Security of health
Security of personal property against crime
A properly-functioning society tends to provide a degree of security to its members. Sometimes the desire for safety outweighs the requirement to satisfy physiological needs completely.

Neither the slave nor the gay/lesbian can be certain of safety from violence. Hate crime examples abound. There is little job security (certainly not in my position anyway). There is high risk of losing revenue and resources if a partner dies, as we have no legal rights to property without taking extraordinary steps. Familial security, well, it's very common for families to expel gay members.

I could go on and on here.

Is my life as *difficult* as that of a slave? I can only speak for myself and say, "no". But you might want to ask Sapphocrat what it's like to not be able to live in the same country as your spouse. Or you could ask a bashing victim. Of course, we could ask Matthew Shepard about that, but he's dead.

I think it's dangerous to begin arguing that one group's rights have to be assured before we can begin addressing another's. We can and do juggle multiple issues at once. How about we all just focus on eliminating the blatant, unquestionable unfairness of all prejudice as being an equal evil?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

16. Equality for 10% of the population is a "frivolity?"

Look, I have MAJOR issues with Wal*Mart, mostly because of their slave workers. They will never get a fucking dime from me, but I find it absolutely appalling that "gay issues" are a frivolity. This is one of the few *good* things this company has done and you shit on it?

I'm sorry, but my rights to equality as an American citizen is not a "frivolity." Equality is my RIGHT, not a frivolity. It's about damn time that people realize that.

[alittlelark]

18. See post #17 for an answer.

[Duncan Grant]

19. Bookmarked.

There are times when my fellow DUers don't believe me when I say some people post the craziest things about 'gay issues'. Since you were bold enough to type it, I hope you won't be offended when I'm bold enough to cite it.

[alittlelark]

22. Please bookmark this as well- Maslows Heirarchy

is what I base these posts on. The need to eradicate slavery is much lower than the need to eradicate GLBT scourges.


As soon as Walmart eradicates slave labor I will be all over your cause.


For now - I will not enter a Walmart, I will protest any that threaten our neighborhoods.

[alittlelark]

24. I'm 94024

Your Silicon Valley Neighbor to the south


You need to THINK - slavery vs GLBT issues....


which SHOULD win?

[lakeguy]

27. didn't know we still had slavery in the US...

or are we talking slavery in one country versus GLBT rights in another country. doesn't seem like a fair comparison to begin with.

[alittlelark]

28. slavery has been out -sourced to the cheapest

and least willing/able to discus it.



The reason I have not entered a Walmart in many years is due to the elephant in the room that few will even recognize.

[foreigncorrespondent]

49. And you know what?

GLBT's in the U.S. have been sold off as well. And that is something that is happening in your own backyard. Did you fight in favor of the Los Altos high school having a declaration for pride day there? Like I said IN YOUR OWN BACKYARD. But you don't give a shit do you? You prefer all of us drop everything to follow your little crusade, because you don't want to admit that both can be handled at the same time. EQUALITY should be for everyone, not just those you choose it for.

[pepperbear]

80. OK....I AM THE OP AND I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY!!!!!!

I didn't quite expect this to become a debate on ethics or slave labor, but rather I was pointing out a good thing walmart did and the fact that the general public really didn't care about it.

I find it a tad sanctimonious of the "I'll never shop at walmart" crowd to judge those of us who have THE AUDACITY to find it necessary to seek out goods at cheap prices now and then.

I could go to Target or Kmart or JC Penny's I suppose, because there I could find durable products made by honest hard working Americans, all of whom were payed a minimum of $15 per hour + benefits, But I suppose I am just too damned lazy.

Or maybe I can go to a higher-end clothing store like the Gap or the Limited...wait no, all there stuff is made in South America and Asia too. Maybe if I'm lucky I could find an American flag actually made in America, or I could find a "support our troops" magnet that wasn't made in Malaysia.

How dare you come in here and judge the importance of an issue? Like you even have a clue. SO UH....where do you shop? If you claim you've never bought anything made with slave labor, I would have to say that you're quite naive. Even the "mom&pops" are selling outsourced slave labor goods. Come off it.

Walmart is a symptom, and little by little, they are getting there comeuppance with regards to their labor practices. They might be doing something right for a change this time. If you don't like Walmart's corporate business practices, then start your own business, pay more than the minimum wage, guarantee a safe working environment, and promise not to discriminate. Then you can talk.

Otherwise you've got nothing constructive to say.

[foreigncorrespondent]

41. No mate...

...you need to THINK instead of pissing others off with your bigotry.

Who should win? How about BOTH! Oppression is never a good thing no matter what form it comes in. Just because you obviously have problems with GLBT's doesn't give you the monopoly on what is right and what is wrong.

[Sapphocrat]

30. Branding my life a "frivolity," eh?

I know what I would say to you if it weren't against DU rules.

I'll just say this: You fucking piss me off with your dismissal of my life. Happy now?

[JanMichael]

65. Hi Sapphocrat

I was reading your posts above, and while I agree with you wholeheartedly on the gay issue (I am married to "Thtwudbeme" or Stephanie--she says you know her)....I also think that you should be aware that clothes marked "made in the USA" can, and are indeed made in sweatshops--where the conditions for the workers are embarrassingly close to slavery. Here is a link for you, I just googled "Saipan" and posted the first link I came up with...there are lots more out there--

http://www.change-links.org/Guess.htm

No way is your lifestyle "frivolous," but also---no way are many clothes sold to people trying to do the right thing made under decent conditions. The US outlawed the right to physically own a person; but that only changed the language in cases that are usually offshore now--- it's sad, and sickening. I wish that the two issues didn't have to be compared to each other in order of some percieved "importance" on this thread.

[Sapphocrat]

84. I hear you, JM...

...and I recognize it is absolutely impossible to be sure that every last shoelace one buys at the drug store is made in the USA. The best I (or anyone, I think) can do is indeed "look for the union label" and seek out brands like American Apparel. Beyond that, I refuse to do business with any company I know is outsourcing (and I'm thinking mainly of computers and related services, like my own ISP, which I grilled mercilessly about the exact location of their help desk) -- which started as a personal vendetta, and turned into a broader awareness: Losing any hope of ever working in I.T. again is what first woke me to the evils of unchecked globalization, and in turn, sweatshops.

Which is also why I keep telling people who dismiss LGBT issues as "frivolous" or "trivial": An issue means nothing until it directly impacts your life. I had to learn that the hard way too. The frustrating thing is being unable to make someone understand that everything is interconnected; the loss of my once very comfortable lifestyle may seem completely disconnected from child slavery in Southeast Asia, but it's all part of the same problem. Ditto LGBT equality and a woman's right to choose, and affirmative action, and hate-crimes legislation, and a million other things people seem to think are so far removed from one another: They're all intertwined, and interdependent.

I just wish everyone could make the connection between issues like that, and realize that everything we do (or fail to do) creates an unending ripple effect, for good or not. But I know it's much more comfortable for most people not to think about things like that.

Anyway, I'm not preaching to you -- I know you understand all this. The bottom line: I do what I can. I don't always strike the mark, but I make the best effort just one person can.

And yes, I know Thtwudbeme, and love her to pieces. :) Where the heck has she been lately? :hi:

[Bluebear]

64. A HEARTY thank you!!!

For the next time when someone says "nobody at DU ever said any such thing", I can now revisit this post.

It's wonderful here sometimes, really, always being the losing part of the "comparison" quotient. Sometimes I outright lose elections for people, other times I am being told that my rights are less important than (fill in the blank).

This morning, my "issues" are out and out called FRIVOLITIES. One thing about being thrown under the fucking bus, you can only absorb so many tire tracks.

[Binka]

78. I Have A Frivolitiy In My Life His Name Is Ian & He's My Son

He is only 20 and he has endured a life of pain just because he IS who he IS. I am outraged reading this thread with all the ridiculous either or positions and the hierarchy of needs crap. GLBT people don't have needs? Or is it that some feel that because GLBT people are "different" they don't feel and process emotions and life like "normal" people do.

Jesus Christ is it 1950? People that marginalize and TRIVIALIZE GLBT'S are the very same folks who talk about understanding the GLBT lifestyle. STFU about the style part of that sentence, we ain't talking about hats or baggy jeans, it is LIFE not lifestyle. My son and every GLBT person I know is not defined by their sexuality ALONE but by who they are in total as a human being. And their needs/ rights are every bit as important as ending sweat shop labor, ending world hunger, ending global warming, yeah THE BIG ISSUES, equality for GLBT'S IS A MAJOR FUCKING ISSUE. I am tired of people shitting on my beautiful boy and now today I find out his life/concerns/needs/rights are a frivolity? Well fuck that JACK!

The lark should be happy she is far away from me at the moment because if I was in the SF area at the moment I would go take a shit on her lawn.

[Sapphocrat]

85. Binka, I hope you show your post to your son.

Ian is very, very lucky to have you for a parent. :)

[ThomCat]

73. It's so nice that you only have one issue you care about.

Too bad for all those people being discriminated against, bashed, and excluded. You just don't have the capacity to handle two differetn issues at once. :eyes:

One thing that all compassionate people learn at some point is that you don't compare pain. You don't play the "I've got it worse than you" game. All that does is dismiss people's concerns and validate everything as "not really all that bad," because there is always someone, somewhere that will have a worse problem.

Yes, slavery is one of the core issues we need to address, because it still happens even here in the US. But that in no way means that equal rights is not an important issue. I haven't walked into a Wallmart in over 15 years. I never plan to walk into another Wallmart, but don't go telling us that that's the only issue out there. Just because you wear blinders and don't give a damn about other issues doesn't make it right for you to dismiss those other issues as "frivolous."

It's not frivolous when we get physically beaten and killed, when we get fired and forced into poverty, when we get denies places to live, when we get disowned and abandoned, when we can't get protection from the police, when doctors dismiss our concerns and real symptoms and instead obscess about whether or not we have AIDS.

[NMMNG]

88. Frivolities?

Apparently neither you nor nobody you care about is gay or you wouldn't speak of gay "issues" (e.g., equal rights) as "frivolities". Just because there are bigots who don't give a damn that GLBT people are treated as second class citizens and even killed for who they are doesn't make it a "frivolity".

[southerncrone]

21. They made China the world power it is today.

Let's face it, the Made in America campaign they had in the 80's was a front to convince their customers that they supported the American worker. All the while they are cutting deals w/China to import cheap, slave-produced products in the following years.
I believe they are directly responsible for a strong Chinese military. The Chinese have all of our money now, because we buy their tariff-free goods by the shipload at Wal-Mart and other discount retailers. The money is leaving the US & they are building up their military with this money. A military that could easily attack us & our allies.
That's why * is in Vietnam now. It has a large coast and directly borders China. :puke:

[alittlelark]

34. Maslows Heirarchy explains my response

Argue that one before you argue w/me.

[Jamastiene]

58. Hold still.

You need a quarter taped to your head. You are stuck in that same exact groove playing the same thing over and over again.

[donco6]

76. Ok - see my post above. eom

[TheDebbieDee]

32. I've been avoiding spending money there since Aug of 2003.....

The items I used to purchase I Wal-Mart I now purchase from K-Mart and sometimes Target.

But next week I will start to take advantage of the Wal-mart $4.00 generic prescription deal..........

[physioex]

60. I may not be such a deal....

They are probably using it to get personal information. It's your classic bait and switch scam.

[rman]

66. Wal-Mart - The high price of low cost

http://www.walmartmovie.com/

"WAL-MART: THE HIGH COST OF LOW PRICE is a feature length documentary that uncovers a retail giant's assault on families and American values.

The film dives into the deeply personal stories and everyday lives of families and communities struggling to fight a goliath. A working mother is forced to turn to public assistance to provide healthcare for her two small children. A Missouri family loses its business after Wal-Mart is given over $2 million to open its doors down the road. A mayor struggles to equip his first responders after Wal-Mart pulls out and relocates just outside the city limits. A community in California unites, takes on the giant, and wins!"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3836296181471292925

[proud2BlibKansan]

70. I don't shop at WalMart

and I could give a shit about their corporate policies.

[Montauk6]

77. Is Walgreen's related to Wal-Mart?

[Perky]

81. No...