Where do you go when you don't have a party?

[yurbud]

most of us here seem committed to the proposition of working within the Democratic Party because in the time it would take to coalesce around a third party and make it a force to be reckoned with, the GOP would cement their one party rule and be nearly impossible to remove.

Even though it is a bigger task, I'm rethinking whether working within the party is the right way to go now.

Somebody convince me one way or the other.

[Warren Stupidity]

1. I think we neeed a progressive funding organization

that a) raises a lot of money, b) only funds progressive Democrats, c) withdraws funding for any Democrat who fails to vote correctly on certain core issues. If there exists such an organization, please let me know. If there isn't, then perhaps this would be a good time to start one. DU has 80,000 members (supposedly) if 40,000 contributed $100 that would be a $4,000,000 kitty. Its a start. We would need 25 times that to be effective.

Or I can just forget about it and sit in front of the boobtoob and watch the fake Jack Bauer hunt down fake terrorists and violate civil and human rights without hesitation and pretend that 24 is more fake than the fake war on terror with its fake terrorists.

[autorank]

2. You take over the party! n/t

[FormerRepublican]

3. Purge the party you have of traitors and rebuild it.

[Skidmore]

5. Well, I'm for breaking out the enema bottle.

[firefox]

4. The country is going to split on the issue of Empire

The big issue before the country relates to Empire. Both parties support Empire. The good of the country requires an end to Empire. WeThePeople are for the good of the country.

Parties are part of the machinery of the country. The electoral college is part of the machinery of the country. Today we saw the machinery of the judiciary turn for the sake of an imperial presidency.

There will be an anti-Empire party for the people. If the Democratic Party does not want to denounce Empire, it will decline to a force that eventually will link with the Republicans to be the Empire Party.

The Nation says it will not endorse a pro-Iraq candidate. It is just part of the line that is forming. If the Dems run a pro Iraq/Empire candidate in 2008 they are going to lose. The days of lesser of two blow-up-and imprison-the-world evils is over for a lot of us.

[Gothic Sponge]

6. Join the Green Party

That's what I did.

[rug]

The streets.

[stillcool]

7. Revolution...

Ever since 2000 it's been where we're headed...in slow motion. Ah, but I do have some soothing remarks to impart....
...Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.
Perhaps a new spirit is rising among us. If it is, let us trace its movement well and pray that our own inner being may be sensitive to its guidance, for we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us....and
"Beyond Vietnam," Address delivered to the Clergy and Laymen Concerned
about Vietnam, at Riverside Church 4 April 1967 New York City
It is with such activity in mind that the words of the late John F. Kennedy come back to haunt us. Five years ago he said, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." Increasingly, by choice or by accident, this is the role our nation has taken, the role of those who make peaceful revolution impossible by refusing to give up the privileges and the pleasures that come from the immense profits of overseas investments.I am convinced that if we are to get on the right side of the world revolution, we as a nation must undergo a radical revolution of values. We must rapidly begin, we must rapidly begin the shift from a thing-oriented society to a person-oriented society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights, are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, extreme materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered.

On page 803 of his biography of RFK Sr, Arthur Schlesinger Jr quotes Kennedy in South Africa (in what A.S. calls RFK's most eloquent passage):

"(Let no one be discouraged by) the belief there is nothing one man or one woman can do against the enormous array of the world's ills -- against misery and ignorance, injustice and violence .... Few will have the greatness to bend history itself; but each of us can work to change a small portion of events, and in the total of all those acts will be written the history of this generation.

There is a tide in the affairs of men
Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;
Omitted, all the voyage of their life
Is bound in shallows and in miseries.
On such a full sea are we now afloat;
And we must take the current when it serves,
Or lose the ventures before us.
William Shakespeare, Julias Ceasar

osama pic i'm still free how about you>

[GreenPartyVoter]

8. Parties don't matter much when Diebold and other shady activities

are going on during our elections. We have to fight for electyion reform and it needs to come from the bottom up. FIx the cities, counties, and states and it will trickle up to the federal level.

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How about some freakin’ election reform already?!

[knight_of_the_star]

9. You take it over

Purge the traitors from the party.

[HereSince1628]

10. We form a tightly disciplined group INSIDE the big ass tent.

That is exactly how the DLC started, grew and took over the party.

There is nothing to prevent the same sort of thing from repeating.