The joke is on Sen. Mary Landrieu

[cboy4]

If that bitch thinks she's going to get one cent for more Katrina relief from this administration for supporting Alito, then boy oh boy, do I have some beautiful ocean front property in Kansas I'd like to sell her. :rant: :mad:

[HysteryDiagnosis]

1. The oceanfront was almost in Lafayette.... maybe this year. nt.

[autorank]

2. That's just her excuse...wonder who is getting the dough in NOLA...

...wonder of they're 'Mary" people? That's not too hard to find out.

She voted for Alito because she digs him.

I think we have a bunch of closet reich wingers in our party, Landrieu being one of them.

[...of J.Temperance]

7. Stop bashing Senator Landrieu

Senator Landrieu is pro-Minimum Wage, she's pro-Social Security, she's pro-Choice, she's pro-Progressive Taxation, she's pro-Medicare, she's pro-Civil Rights, she's pro-Labor Union.

Does any of that sound like she's a Repuke?

[insane_cratic_gal]

17. She voted with Bush 74 percent of the time too

you forgot to add that JT

She's not worthy of you. You always defend her, If nothing else you have my admiration, I only hope she's worth of such stellar devotion. But I don't think she deserves you.

[...of J.Temperance]

23. Senator Landrieu is from a red state and I know that she's more Liberal

Than she's allowed to vote. If Senator Landrieu were from California then she'd vote like Senator Boxer, I know this.

I defend Senator Landrieu because I'm loyal and I like her as a person as well.

[insane_cratic_gal]

30. I know we've tussled over it before

She's on my list.. I personally don't like her actions

I'm always in awe of your devotion to her, like I said.. I don't think she deserves ya is all.

I meant that in the kindest way.

I think we even had a Edwards/Clark ticket at one point.

One Liberal p /One moderate vp

I'm not quite sure we actually agreed on who got the top though lol (no pun intended).

she's going to take a lot of flack the next few days, people are angry and disappointed, myself included, but I wanted you to know even though we disagree about her, I'm still a friendly face for ya

[...of J.Temperance]

39. Hey Edwards/Clark or Clark/Edwards would be fab :)

Yes I remember that thread :)

I know that Senator Landrieu is going to be bashed, but then she gets bashed a lot. I just feel the need to defend her.

People can disagree on things and still be friendly, that's how it's supposed to be :) Thanks mon ami.

Heck I'm just glad that Senator Clinton voted Nay. Golly I dread to think what DU would be like now if she'd have voted Yea.

:scared:

This is for you anyhow :toast:

[lastliberalintexas]

36. Big fucking deal- she's a nice person

Sorry, but that really should not play into whether someone retains their elected seat. I've worked in DC and can tell you that Charlie Shumer is (or gives every impression that he is) an ass- but I'd much prefer him in the Senate than the "nice" Landrieu.

[orleans]

22. she votes with the republicans A LOT more than other dems

and she voted for UNITARY EXECUTIVE THEORY THAT ALITO SUPPORTS

MARY WANTS BUSH TO BE KING!!!!

that sounds like a freakin republican to me

[...of J.Temperance]

25. Senator Landrieu doesn't want a Urinary Executive and she doesn't

Want Junior to be King. Senator Landrieu fucking hates Junior.

She's a Democrat.

[hatrack]

27. And that's why she voted for cloture . . . ?

Sorry, J. Temperance, but this doesn't follow logically.

[...of J.Temperance]

31. We need the filibuster for when Justice Stevens or Justice Ginsburg

Either retire or pass away. The swing vote is now Justice Kennedy, he's not a Right-Wing freak. Samuel Alito is not the fifth vote for Roe v Wade. This is why there has been no filibuster and this is why so many of our Senators voted Yea.

The Justice Stevens or Justice Ginsburg one, this will be the filibusters of filibusters.

Think about this logically.

[hatrack]

40. Yes, it's much better to head off a potential 6-3 whacko SC . . .

Than to try and prevent a potential 5-4 whacko Supreme Court.

Now I understand! Thanks, J. Temperance - you have opened my blinkered leftist eyes!

[orleans]

43. well, then she's stupid. because alito "supports" the unitary

execuitve theory. and she voted for cloture so alito is automatically in.

[GreenArrow]

46. a "urinary" executive?

Well, she pissed on this country, good and plenty. Fuck her. A "Democrat?" An increasingly meaningless appellation. I can think of more suitable names. She's bought and paid for by the corporate powers that be.

[Neecy]

52. oh, goodie! Mary's pro-choice!

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!

And she just enabled an anti-choice zealot to sit on the Supreme Court! Really standing firm on that terrific pro-choice stance. Thanks, Mary, for working so hard to ensure my rights....

Her so-called liberal stances (I know, stop laughing) are pointless if she doesn't defend them.

[Inland]

3. Bush fucked republican MS and AL.

What do these people think they are going to get? a nod from the anti choice crowd?

[...of J.Temperance]

4. Don't call my Senator a b*tch, thank you n/t

[patrioticliberal]

5. Tough shit.

[rockymountaindem]

6. What do you expect to get out of this?

Are you satisfied with the way she voted?

[...of J.Temperance]

12. No I'm not

Samuel Alito sucks ass. However Senator Landrieu votes with our party on a majority of key issues.

The thing is as well, Senator Landrieu is 100% better than some full-on Repuke David Shitter clone taking her seat.

[DancingBear]

8. I think the poster was being kind - I can think of worse

But if you think she's doing great, then why not just sit down in NO with her and wait for that Katrina relief money to come a-rollin in.

I mean, George promised, right?

Man, P.T. Barnum must use her as a poster child.

[...of J.Temperance]

15. Senator Landrieu is 100% better than some extreme Right-Wing freak

Repuke getting her seat. Sometimes Senator Landrieu's votes suck, but I'd rather her than another David Shitter.

[DancingBear]

20. Oh this same old tired logic is getting so predictable

"Gee, I mean, she's better than Genghis Khan"

She's SUPPOSED to be a Democrat. Is it really too much to ask that we expect her to act like one?

Like it's going to make a fucking difference if she's pro-choice after she gives Bush the OK to stack the court with folks who will legislate her beliefs out of existence.

Take the Genghis Khan act somewhere else - we ain't buyin'.

[orleans]

35. but wouldn't a REAL democrat be better than mary?

why don't you guys look around and run a true-blue against her. it wouldn't be that hard--just point out how well (not) she's gotten nola back on its feet.

i think she traded her vote with the hope that bush is still gonna throw her that bone.

so she's willing to sell out the rest of this country.

that's nice.

we all want nola up and running again. i can't imagine it's gonna happen with the republicans in charge. i heard halliburton is already getting contracts there--and if they treat the people of new orleans like they treat the troops in iraq you will literally be bathing and drinking sewer water for a year because that is exactly what halliburton did to our troops. (besides look how great halliburton is rebuilding iraq.....)

the people of this country sent billions to new orleans relief and these top agencies have used up almost 3/4ths of that at this point. how much longer can people of new orleans wait? she should be furious--she should be shouting thsi from the rooftops that the feds aren't helping.

instead she votes with bushie, keeps her voice down, and i have to hear this little news clip on cnn with lisa somebody doing a two minute special report.

when mary votes in favor of alito she certainly isn't helping new orleans. alito gets on the bench and when n.o. is poisioned by drinking water, or when the crap still isn't cleared away five years from now, the people will have no recourse. alito loves the corporations, not the "mythical little guy". you guys are really screwed now. imo. good luck.

[...of J.Temperance]

49. No other Democrat could get Senator Landrieu's seat n/t

[orleans]

54. try. why doesn't someone try????

i live in a terribly republican county outside of chicago. my congressional blabla is biggert. ARGH.

i email her and she replies with snail mail. EVERY issue i have emailed her on she pukes back just the opposite of what i want from her or want her to do. she doesn't represent me.

FINALLY, this time around--someone stepped up and is going to run against her--a democrat. i'm not overly optimistic about this but at least we're trying.

you should try to run a real dem against her. see what happens.

on edit: look for someone really good!

[hatrack]

50. Straw-man arguments cut no ice around here

"Yeah, but it'd be a lot worse if Adolf Eichmann were Senator instead of Landrieu."

Well, he isn't Senator instead of Landrieu, and neither is David Vitter, and neither are any of the other right-wing nightmares I can come up with (David Duke, anybody?).

Instead, you have Landrieu and her shitty vote, and all the excuses she'll offer for casting it, and all the time in the world to watch as street after street remains unrebuilt and as federal money (yet again) fails to materialize to rebuild that part of America.

But please, spare us the straw men.

[Dave Reynolds]

51. What, is she your mommy?

You have a honkin' crush on her or something?

[BlueManDude]

9. She also thinks it will help her next time she's up

but N.O. has been scrubbed of Dems so she's toast anyway.

Years from now she'll have the satisfaction of knowing that she compromised and cowered all for nothing.

[The Backlash Cometh]

13. So when is she going to declare herself as a Republican?

[BlueManDude]

18. I wouldn't go that far

I think she's a decent person but as many Red State Dems do she tries to appease the right in hopes that she can play both sides and she ends up getting squeezedn by both. A real populist meessage would work in LA but she's too cautious to do it.

[The Backlash Cometh]

24. Well, that says it all now does it? She's too cautious.

You would think a leader who has been screwed as much as she has would have learned how to go balls to the wall, instead of acting like a victim.

[Heewack]

10. She's fighting for oil royalties.

LA now gets somwhere like 5-10%. This vote will get her the 50% the other oil states are getting. You can't blame her.

[DancingBear]

14. Gee, you think some of that money will go to the poor black folks in NO?

Oops. I forgot.

They've already been "relocated."

Part of the NO rebuilding plan.

Great job, Mary!

[Heewack]

19. I know the whole state is very poor

Whether it goes to one certain demographic that no longer lives there is beyond her control. She has a duty to her state that elected her. You can't blame her for that.

[DancingBear]

28. Here's a hint

Some of the people who live there are women.

They may actually LIKE controlling their own bodies.

Some are poor.

They may actually LIKE having civil rights.

Some are wealthy and white and contribute to her campaign.

They may actually LIKE the Senator.

Way to stand up for the common people, Mary!

[Heewack]

33. She was standing up for the common people.

Last I heard abortion was still legal in LA.

Last I heard only a minute portion of any population actually has abortions.

Many are poor and she has insured that her state will get much more.

Last I heard no civil right had been overturned.

Some/many who aren't wealthy and white voted for her.

I'm pretty sure they are glad they have a senator that looks out for their longterm wellbeing as she sees it. That's what they elected her to do.

She stood up for the common people.

Good for you, Mary.

You are making the mistake of placing your values in front of her judgement. You pretend to know her constituents better than she does.

How snobbish can you get?!

[orleans]

38. hahahahaha. oh, silly little heewack

"last i heard"

just wait. things are gonna change.

[Heewack]

44. They may

They may not. But I think at this point suggesting that they will is pure speculation. She did what she felt she had to do. She won a hotly contested election and she knows darn well what her constituents want. To pretend that she is up there for some greater good of the national party is foolish. There are very few Senators that have that luxury.

[orleans]

47. are her constituents democrats? they didn't want her to do that to them

or have all her democrats been relocated and her new constituents are republican?

[ZRB]

55. Her constituents are the Oil Industry

I believe she's the only Democrat in the top 10 of donations received from Big Oil. It's not surprising the way she votes.

[orleans]

53. this is what she said:

"Because we have such a full plate of pressing issues before Congress, a filibuster at this time would be, in my view, very counterproductive."

how does anything top the future of this country, the years of blood and tears in progress we've made with the civil rights movements, the women's movement, etc. (as kennedy said), how does the next bit of business become more important than our civil rights and liberties? look up the meaning to the unitary executive--it doesn't mean "just one president" like the republican spinners were trying to tell the "little people" on the tv lately.

how does putting our great constitution and our beloved supreme court in jeopardy appear in mary's eyes to be counterproductive?

sounds like she has an agenda to me.

and that agenda is SUCK UP!

i say odds are five to one that she's really screwed up--along with all the other turncoats.

(even my neighbors have been bitching to me about how things are so fu*ked up lately, bitching about the government, etc. i finally said it's all republican run--all of it! and you voted for it! you sang their praises--you argued with me about what a piece of shit kerry was, the dems were. you don't like it? suck it up! and WAKE UP! and now when the water gets worse and the air gets worse and the clicks on the phone get worse i'll only be able to say SUCK IT UP. and think how stupidly blind, and purposefully ignorant people can be.) because supporting dem principles and supporting what would be the best thing for DECADES TO COME is only being "counterproductive" in mary's opinion.

[The Backlash Cometh]

11. What was she thinking? I mean really?

Who is going to stick their neck out for her now?

[IndyOp]

16. Sadly the joke is on the people who suffer because of Katrina...

It is *not* on Senator Landrieu...

:(

[enid602]

21. Sure

Sure, she'll get the money. Just like the no children left behind did. Just like the folks in Africa with AIDS did. Just like Iraqi reconstruction did. Just like old folks got help with prescriptions. What few pennies will go to Louisiana will be divided among no-bid contractors and churches. Way to go, Mary!

[AX10]

26. Mary Landrieu (shit-LA) is going to get not one cent from *.

That is for sure.

[tritsofme]

29. We call female Democratic senators "bitches"

On the same day we lament the rise of Alito and downfall of women's rights.

Very mature.

Very productive.

[Maddy McCall]

34. I thought the very same thing.

[orleans]

41. you're right. we shouldn't do that. we should just call ALL the

turncoat democrats WHORES (like malloy just did)

[lastliberalintexas]

32. There are many things that she should be called

That however is not one of them.

[cascadiance]

37. Attention Lousiana! IF you want help from us, REPLACE LANDRIEU!

Get another Democrat in power! I'm sympathetic to your cause, but I'm also feeling like we need some action from you as well to get rid of this unprincipled and ungrateful leach on this party!

[...of J.Temperance]

45. No other Democrat could get Senator Landrieu's seat n/t

[AndyA]

42. Mary Landrieu needs to decide

It seems she has one foot on the dock, the other on the boat, and the boat is pulling away. She needs to make a decision.

Her comment that she didn't want a filibuster so they could get on with business bothers me. I realize she has many important issues that need attention in her part of the country, but isn't the SCOTUS more important?

[Hokie]

48. That is such a poor excuse

A filibuster would not have deadlocked the Senate. The work of the Senate would have gone on. The days of "Mr. Smith goes to Washington" are over. This was, in effect, the confirmation vote for Scalito today. Every Senator who voted in favor of cloture was voting for Scalito and they knew it. Don't do them a favor by giving them political cover. The dems who voted for Scalito today are traitors and scumbags.

[orleans]

58. AGREE! AGREE! AGREE! n/t

[cascadiance]

60. If she was truly mostly concerned about time on NO's issues...

She could have cut a deal with Kerry, etc. to make sure that if the fillibuster escalated through nuclear options and broader fillibusters that they wouldn't fillibuster New Orleans' issues, which actually might have HELPED her get more attention for her issues that way! I'm sure that the Rethuglicans bought her off pretty heavily with some big chunk of change or promises of it!

[tsuki]

56. She made her decision. She voted for Alito. Tomorrow's vote

is unimportant. The only chance we had to stop that neofascist was today.

[tsuki]

57. She made her decision. She voted for Alito. Tomorrow's vote

is unimportant. The only chance we had to stop that neofascist was today.

[RazzleDazzle]

59. What makes you think you have the right

to call her a bitch? YOU DO NOT.

I don't care how fucking mad you are -- I'm plenty angry with her and Cantwell and 17 others as well -- YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEMEAN HER ON THE BASIS OF HER SEX/GENDER.

You just don't. Just as you don't have the right to demean Clarence Thomas or Condi Rice on the basis of their RACE. It's the same thing. Angry with them? Fine -- criticize their faults and failings, NOT their race.

Angry with some woman? Fine. Criticize her for her faults and failings, NOT her sex/gender.