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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 10:26 AM
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Are you ready to make nice?
I'm not. I'm still seething. The only difference now is the election has been largely decided and we are anticipating the new government after the end of the year. In the meantime, things will coast. I've been thinking about why I still feel so discontented this morning. I am angry. I'm sick of hearing whining Republicans who feel that they've been maligned for the past 6 years. I'm angry when I consider all the damage they have done to the nation politically, socially, economically, and the general pile of stinking offal they dumped regularly on behalf of their golden boy. The lies are still out there and repeated often enough. The sense of entitlement that their party and leaders engendered is still there--that idea that no one else is fit to have expectations or to contribute to the decisionmaking processes in this nation. I'm angry that those very oppressive methods used by religious leaders else where in the world that the Republicans have so vehemently descried, they would have those who disagree with their social and political agenda meekly accept.

I'm not ready to make nice. I want change and I want it to be measurable change. I'm restive and restless. I want the Republican Party to become the historical relic that it is--something from the past that is a curiosity in the history books. I will take no half-assed excuses from anyone for what has been let pass as governance in the past and I'd better not see anyone from the Democratic Party allowing it to continue in the future on any level.

No, I'm not ready. Just not.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 10:28 AM
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1. You want to see the Republican Party to become a historial relic?
Are you eliminitionist?

And I apoligize if I've misread you.

Bryant
Check it out--> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 10:30 AM
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2. For want of a better word....
artifact, curiosity, something only seen in memoribilia.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 10:35 AM
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4. I can't go along with you there
Hell my biggest problem with the Republicans is their eliminationist rhetoric - espoused by Coulter or Malkin or others. The idea that someday they will wipe out the liberals and relegate us to the dustbin of history.

I can't support turning around and doing the same to them.

Bryant
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 10:32 AM
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3. every repug i have come in contact with, i go into song, "we kicked
your ass".... just did it yesterday to manager of a convenient store i went to. three days ago on the phone to one of hubby's friends. so NO... i dont think i am in a place to "make" nice
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 10:38 AM
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5. Your post made me think of this quote from "Mark Twain"
I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it. Mark Twain


Let's be civil, let's be reasoned, let's "kill them with kindness". Then, when they're so confused at our calm, rational manner in response to their bombastic, vitriol, we, meaning our Democratic leadership, can ever so slowly, pull out the pins from under them and we can all sit back and watch them slide into oblivion.

I don't care to see political parties disappear. I'd like to see plenty of choices for voters. But, I have no problem with the totalitarian-minded neocons and their sympathizers and appeasers vanishing from the U.S. consciousness for all time.

That's how I plan to "make nice".

:evilgrin:

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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 10:45 AM
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7. I think the voters should be able to choose - conservatives or
theocratic fascists. Would be a great thing for everyone concerned for the party to split into the two branches that it is - since it's pretty obvious that the hijacked Republican party represents neither of those two interests well - they're in total conflict with each other. Split them up and let the voters pick and choose. I'm all about the voter having a choice too.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 10:58 AM
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11. See, the thing is, I don't think that "theocratic" anything should
be allowed anywhere near our political process; other than an individual's vote based on their particular belief system. I would very much like to see "religion" flushed out of politics. Yah, I know, not very realistic, but it's my opinion and hope.



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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 10:41 AM
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6. Gee! Where's you sense of fairness and human kindness?!
:sarcasm:

Totally with you. But, you know, my anger isn't reserved for only one party. A lot of Democrats have been in a state of denial, and still are in a state of denial about some things that can't be discussed in this forum.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 10:49 AM
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8. Making nice with power abusers is essentially loading their guns for them.
They hate someone who is "nice" as much as we appreciate someone who is nice.

That's how different power abusers see being "nice".
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 10:50 AM
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9. I'm Not Either
I'll play nice when the damage has been repaired.
The Professor
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 10:50 AM
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10. Oh HELL no!
The time for being nice is SO over!
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 10:59 AM
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12. no
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 12:43 PM
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20. Hi radfringe, I like that picture so much
that I snagged it and put it in my cat file.

No, I'm no where near ready to make nice the fun is just beginning, we're all going to gain twenty pounds, from sitting in front of our computers and tv's watching the hearings.

Told ya so is going to become my favorite line.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 04:07 PM
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22. here's something to warm up to the told ya so
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:03 AM
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13. 12 years of republican attacks and dirty tricks
FUCK NO! I am not ready to make nice.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:06 AM
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14. Not until we have accountability, justice and renewed respect for the Constitution. - n/t
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:07 AM
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15. To paraphrase Trent Lott...
"We're going to build the Party till we're hunting < Republicans > with dogs"

I don't want to destroy the Conservative movement, I just want to get it down to the size where we can drown it in a bathtub.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:18 AM
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16. No. And under the current economic system I never will be...
because this system sets up a struggle between the haves and have nots and there is no room for 'making nice'.
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deepthought42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:59 AM
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17. I'm not ready to make nice
Edited on Wed Nov-22-06 12:00 PM by deepthought42
I'm not ready to back down
I'm still mad as hell
And I don't have time
To go round and round and round
It's too late to make it right
Probably wouldn't if I could
Cuz I'm mad as hell
Can't bring myself
To do what it is you think I should.

- Dixie Chicks


Now, I don't listen to country music, but I LOVE that song. :headbang:
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 12:28 PM
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18. Not only no...
...but HELL NO!

We can be polite on the surface, no need to rant and rave (except among ourselves, where it is very therapeutic) -- but the goal, from where I sit, is to discredit and destroy this neocon / classist / shadow government / warmongering party once and for all. No quarter. No place for them to hide.

For the last 45 years they've been at us, trying to destroy everything we stand for: equal opportunity, living wages, colorblindness, separation of church and state, women's rights, labor rights, social justice, peace -- all of it. And they have succeeded beyond even their wildest expectations, with a few notable exceptions such as Social Security, and they keep trying to gut that as well.

Every time you read some nutball columnist bashing hippies, and you ask yourself what the h***? Are they living in the past? Isn't that battle over? The answer is no, it is not over. We were fools to think we had won the battle, after Vietnam and Watergate. But those were simply skirmishes. They hid in the bushes and sniped, they organized in the town councils and the schools and the churches, and they built a power base, based on one simple goal: to destroy the liberals and everything gained by and for the chaotic populist masses. Their goal was never to coexist. Our mistake was believing there ever was, or could be, compromise with these elitist, controlling bastards.

We have opened up an opportunity. Please, please let us handle it like warriors and crush them into oblivion. In the nicest possible way.

</rant>
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 12:30 PM
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19. No, I'm not
I insist that Bush be held accountable, then the administration, then the media whores and pundits, then the Repub voters - all of them should be held accountable. All of them are treasonous.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 01:05 PM
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21. I'm not ready to make nice, either.
The pundits are saying, "The Democrats will have to work with the Republicans." No, the Republicans will have to work with the Democrats. I can't forget year after year after year of Democratic legislation sitting on the shelf not able to come to the floor for a vote. The people have overwhelmingly spoken. If the Republicans obstruct what the people want, we'll send more of them packing in 2008 and get a supermajority.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 04:17 PM
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23. No. I just read where chris shays says...
that the dems have to take responsiblity for the Iraq war...Now that they have messed it up so badly, I didn't see the dems in any of their closed door meetings unless it was Lieberman...
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