Lebanese Christians call for a crusade. (Chicago Tribune)

[PartTimeSatanist]

Slaying inflames Lebanon November 21, 2006,
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/custom/newsroom/chi-061121lebanon,1,4429119.story?coll=chi-news-hed

Quotes from Christian demonstrators from the streets:

"Christianity in the Middle East is in danger, and I appeal to the Christian world to send us military help, military forces. We need a crusade."

"We are Christians, and I know as Christians we should forgive but I don't think we are able to," said law student Elie Maalouf, 21. "Now is a moment for grief, for prayer, not for action. But action will come soon, it is inevitable.


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They want a crusade? You know, Iraqi Christians said the same things back in 2002-2003, and now they are an endangered species, thanks to western intervention, and by 2050 there won't be such a thing as Iraqi Christian, or Christians in Iraq for that matter.

[iconoclastic cat]

1. 2050? More like 2009. nt

[no_hypocrisy]

2. It's going to be a challenge to be a Christian in any country where

its residents can't agree on Mohammed and what he meant. Until you have a government in place that protects the rights of religious minorities, a country will be doomed to sectarian and religious strife as each group fights for either domination or its existence.

[sweetheart]

3. are there any christians at all?

If someone is 'sure' of their relationship with Jesus Christ, like they have some
hold over this relationship, suggests that they are not christians, as surely were
Jesus christ to be leading that relationship, we'd not be hearing from them regarding
their desire to run a military op.

So, then the culture pushing the arms and the terrorist schools, the worlds largest
terrorist by orders of magnitude for iraq, the elephant in every room, leaves clearly
demarked that jesus christ is not heard over the din of nationalism and ego.

Nobody who is in relationship with Jesus Christ was asked, clearly;
not a 'christian' has ever been consulted.

[Igel]

7. At last count there were 393 Xians in the world,

and maybe 290 Muslims.

Haven't surveyed the Taoists, Shinto adherents and Buddhists yet, but the usual numbers for Hindus and animists seem about right given the latitude in the definitions.

[greenman3610]

4. as Bush leads us further back

to the middle ages

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

5. U.S. media's really been hyping up this Christian thing...

After that Lebanese guy was assassinated yesterday. They kept emphasizing how he was Christian at every opportunity. As if he was shot because he was Christian. Almost as if they got a memo from the WH telling them to emphasize it.

[BreweryYardRat]

6. Not a good parallel. Or idea.

In one of the Crusades (or infighting between settled Crusaders + reinforcements and the Muslim states, I can't remember), massive numbers of Coptic Christians in an Egyptian city were massacred simply because they looked/dressed like Muslims.

[PartTimeSatanist]

9. It had nothing to do with clothing.

Crusaders were by and large about looting and/or pillaging. It was all about quick profit, trade routes, and favors. Simple as that. Sure, skin color probably played a small part but in reality the whole Muslim vs. Christian thing rarely entered the picture. If you resided in a rich province, you were a prime target for Crusader raids. Didn't matter if you were Christian, Muslim, or Pagan. Heck, Crusaders spent more time bickering and fighting over loot than they did fighting the heathens. Pretty much like the situation in modern day Iraq. European, North/South American, and even Asian Crusaders, bickering on who gets what, and how much of it.

[BreweryYardRat]

10. All true, but the example I cited still applies.

Let me pull the source and get back to you, okay? I have to get dressed/packed to go home.

[porphyrian]

8. Yeah, that's what Jesus would do. - n/t

[PartTimeSatanist]

11. bump

[PartTimeSatanist]

12. another bump...