It seems many Dems changed their votes we had a declared 37

[saracat]

to start. Who were the vote switchers and why??????

[onenote]

1. we never had a declared 37

we had bloggers claiming there were 37. We might even have had a couple of Senators claiming there were 37, but there were never 37 publicly declared votes against cloture.

onenote

[saracat]

2. Hmmm. BUt it seems to me the MSM were reporting 37 and so was Durbin!

[MercutioATC]

5. .

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[onenote]

6. i never saw a msm report saying 37 -- not once

In fact, it seems to me that there were several posts here on DU complaining that the MSM had basically written off the filibuster effort. As it turns out, sadly, they were right.

onenote

[saracat]

8. From althernet

but this was in MSM and posted here. I will try to find the masm coverage!

"It was a surprise to many that only 25 Senators voted against cloture. As of Sunday, Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin told the press he had 37 of the 41 votes necessary to support a filibuster of Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito."
"

From althernethttp://www.alternet.org/rights/31540/

[Freddie Stubbs]

10. Can you site any MSM sources which stated that?

:shrug:

[saracat]

13. I haven't been able to have the time to search but it was a Sunday article

I think it might have been a TV News site or WAPO> I will post it when I have search time!

[Freddie Stubbs]

14. You may be confusing that with info posted here on DU

[saracat]

15. No. It was an AP byline.

[Freddie Stubbs]

17. The AP story may have been refering to 37 Democrats opposing

the nomination, not supporting the filibuster.

[Freddie Stubbs]

18. Any luck in finding that article?

:shrug:

[never_get_over_it]

3. Yep I think before the vote the highest declared number was 22 - nt

[Lithos]

4. It's the nature of the beast

Some subscribe to the belief that if you can't win, then spin it to play both sides - essentially sailing the political winds. While useful on somethings, I don't agree with it exactly as I think it sends the wrong signals.

L-

[gumby]

7. Some of the Wimps said they would vote No on confirmation

but they voted Yes on cloture. Herb Kohl did this (for one).

This is just about the slimiest, most cynical thing I've ever seen. They get to vote for Alito before they get to vote against him. Of course their no vote on confirmation is just spit in the wind. Assholes.

[Innocent Smith]

9. Never had 37

There were a heck of a lot of rumors flying around that were treated as fact. And from some of the reports I read here, either people were hearing what they wanted to hear from Senate staffers instead of what they were being told or the staffers themselves weren't completely keyed in to what was going on and were passing on false information.

[alcibiades_mystery]

11. Had 37 only if you believe Raw Story

Raw Story: Rawng Again.

[hippiegranny]

12. maybe some of those 37

are the ones who will vote no on confirmation but yes for cloture. The pussy way to play both ends against the middle.

[DeepModem Mom]

16. I AM CONVINCED that when the time came to vote...

even though we were close, we didn't have the votes -- and they told the red-state Senators to vote yea on cloture to please their constituencies. My best example is Pryor of Arkansas. There was a strong report that he would abstain, and I personally believe that he was prepared to do that.