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Your comment in your profile: It's all about integrity, respect, honesty, decency, open mindedness, fairness, and genuine desire to wish good upon all. That is why I'm a liberal.
Yet, if I dare to make bring up the concept that voting solely for a party is a bad idea, you immediately attack me and tell me I am having an illogical argument. Once more you have ascribed to me my motives, my feelings and my reasons for posting this in the first place.
Do you want to sift through and find how many posts attack Joe Lieberman and how many praise Al Gore? I don't have the number but there is a hell of a lot of them. I did not say that this was a logical or realistic question, I said it was a what if question. However, since you bring it up, you tell me: If the Democrats did polling and saw that if they ran Lieberman, he would win, would they back him if he continued to play nice and basically was a good Democrat? I think they would.
My real intentions, not the ones you impose upon me, were to see if people love Gore enough and hate Lieberman enough to cross party lines for it. That was it. It was not a vague generalization as you have tried to construct, it was a specific question.
Your example is also flawed, and here is why:
I ask sincerely:
"Do you always thoroughly inspect your silverware prior to its use to make sure by chance it didn't come in contact with some toxic substance?"
"Oh come on, that's absurd! Of course I don't inspect my spoon thoroughly before I use it to make sure there isn't a small piece of toxic chemical on it. I just use the damn spoon!"
This line of questioning completely diverges from my original point. However, even though your entire attack on me has been strawman after strawman (marching in perfect goose-step I might add) I will dignify this with a reply, by pointing out that perhaps the first person who is asking the silverware question noticed that person two has occasionally spilled bleach into their silverware drawer. (Zell Miller comes to mind, along with many other mistakes that the Democrats have made over the years)
"But what if it did, theoretically speaking of course. It's a possibility ya know. I mean, I don't really think it would happen, but it's possible. Wouldn't it be dangerous for you to continue just haphazardly using the clean spoon without inspecting it first?"
"Dude, you're nuts. There ain't gonna be no toxic powder on my spoon. Give me a break!"
"Hey, ya never know. Someday maybe there would be and it would kill you. I'm just trying to show you that dealing with absolutes can be a bad idea, that's all!"
How many years have Democrats supported Black rights? 50 something? Didn't they oppose black rights for longer after reconstruction? Didn't Dems support gay rights until recently when they gave it up to get more votes? Please don't take this as an attack on Democrats in general, simply that Democrats can and do fuck up, so blindly obeying them should generally be a bad idea, yes? If by pointing out that you should "look at your silverware" in this analogy you have constructed out of straw, mean "question your political leaders" then I do not believe it is nonsense at all to point out such things. But you have your agenda to push, I am a dissenting voice trying to speak reason to someone who is unwilling to be open-minded or reasonable or have any sort of discussion that isn't entirely orthodox in it's content.
See how ridiculous of an argument that is? Same damn difference in my opinion. I find your premise to be completely and utterly faulty. Sorry bub.
That's the beauty of your ability to doublethink. You attack me for pointing out that you are a hypocrite for doing exactly what Republicans do and behave in the same way as them. You have once again constructed what you believe my argument is, given me my motives and cast me in the role of the heretic. In fact it is you who are the fanatic, dedicated to his cause and unwilling to even consider the possibility that you have a God given right to more than two choices in the world. I feel sorry for you. It must be such a dreary black and white world for you.
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