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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 06:52 AM
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Who should be fixing Iraq? (the community servants who broke it?)
Edited on Sat Nov-25-06 07:15 AM by Hubert Flottz
The spies who pushed for war

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Rick Tyler, Mr Gingrich's spokesman, said: "If he was at the CIA he was there to listen and learn, not to persuade or influence."

Mr Gingrich visited Langley three times before the war, and according to accounts, the political veteran sought to browbeat analysts into toughening up their assessments of Saddam's menace.

Mr Gingrich gained access to the CIA headquarters and was listened to because he was seen as a personal emissary of the Pentagon and, in particular, of the OSP.

In the days after September 11, Mr Rumsfeld and his deputy, Paul Wolfowitz, mounted an attempt to include Iraq in the war against terror. When the established agencies came up with nothing concrete to link Iraq and al-Qaida, the OSP was given the task of looking more carefully. MORE...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,999737,00.html

Let Newt go to Baghdad and do about a thousand hours of community service in the green zone and see if he still thinks that the neocon war of choice in Iraq, was worth it. Newt gleefully helped break it. So Newt should be thrilled to go and fix it and so should the entire PNAC/neocon crew that helped Bush lie us into Iraq.

Newt and his pals from the "Office of Special Plans" hooked up to Diebold, could easily top Bush, as the very worst president in history, if he's given half a chance. Newt would love to spy on you over here, so he don't have to spy on them over there! He'd like to join up with DonRudy in NY City and waylay our fine country for another 16 years.


"Newty/Rudy 08" * ? ? * Which way to the Emergency Exit?

"I love the smell of fresh Whoop-ass in the mornings," the new democratic speaker of the house.

It may not be very lady like, but it's Loooooong overdue.

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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 06:54 AM
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1. Iraq's should fix Iraq ,. Al Gore should fix America.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 07:04 AM
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2. I think Al can fix it!
I really do.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 07:17 AM
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3. but the criminals must be run outta town....Gore soft on crime!
i'm being silly, but you know what i mean....
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Al Gore’s announcement that he will not seek the Democratic presidential nomination in 2004 says a great deal about the state of the American political system and the Democratic Party.
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In explaining his decision, Gore has offered only one political motivation—but it is a highly significant one. Referring obliquely to the 36-day battle over the Florida vote and the Supreme Court ruling that ultimately handed the presidency to his Republican opponent, Gore told his “60 Minutes” interviewer, “I think a campaign that would be a rematch between myself and President Bush would inevitably involve a focus on the past that would, in some measure, distract from the focus on the future that I think all campaigns have to be about.”

In other words, a second Gore-Bush contest would inevitably raise the overtly anti-democratic manner in which the 2000 election crisis was resolved, and bring into question the legitimacy of the Bush administration. In his desire to avoid such issues, Gore reflects a preoccupation of the entire ruling elite and both political parties.
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http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/dec2002/gore-d21.shtml
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 08:42 AM
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5. A Non -Hollywood actor is just what the doctor ordered ! Impeachment..
..not being on the table ,is the first indication the legs need to be kicked out from under it.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 01:55 PM
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12. well said
and really! impeachment has to be the least of what that fricking murdering punk deserves!
(Also, remember when? before Nixon went down, Spiro Agnew suddenly developed legal problems that CONVEENIENTLY replaced him with old boy gerry ford, ex warren commission membah!....and naturally no one noticed! just like maggie thatcher suddenly devloping 'weaknesses' and forced out of british pm office, to be replaced by john major, of carlyle fame, just prior to the Falklands Island murderfest) bigdick Cheney, obviously, has murdered too much to be entrusted with the presiduncy, so,impeachment remains last resort.....and don't think the busheviks aint thought of THAT!
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 08:21 AM
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13. Weller said, and good point maybe keeping doubt on these bastards
after their out of office is more important to national security ,not to mention general well being.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 07:19 AM
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4. First, I'd turn the question on the RW'ers, including media: "Why? Do you think Bush
has NOT SUCCEEDED?! Do you think Bush is NOT ON THE RIGHT TRACK?! Are you saying that Bush doesn't have a CLUE?!"

See what they'd sputter then.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 08:44 AM
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6. First you'd have to put a gun to their head to admit we're not winning.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:51 AM
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7. The GOP will stay this course without remorse, until every country
on the planet turns against us. It's how fascists operate. To the neoconsters, seeing the country go belly up is an easier out, than them having to ever admit, that they screwed things up like they have.

They care more about their power than they care about this country. That's why they ALWAYS shy away from any real fighting. Afraid they'll get dirty. But always ready to swoop in after the fight and reap the spoils.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 11:13 AM
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8. Jackels and vultures the GOPers are...full of shit as they eat from the bones of others...
They have learned to attack in Packs...like the Dingos and those Freeper dudes....
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 11:18 AM
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9. Lazy blood sucking parasites.
The I Got Mine Club.

Leeches!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 11:29 AM
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10. Hyenas too...
In the Post Bush World...Reality and Sanity will make a long awaited return to Common Sense for the Common Good.

Its only then can we expect a string of Luaus for the People...better to eat/dance/sing/laugh together than join the GOP where they Hate Together.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 11:32 AM
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11. Fix? Iraq? Why? Its not broken, according to the RW. And that's the problem
Its interesting, because RWers will tell you completely different stories, depending on how you ask.

They say that the Dems have no plan to fix Iraq, but then if you ask them what is the Bush and Republican plan to fix Iraq, they will say there is no need for fixing, because we are winning.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 10:11 AM
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14. Yes but the "We Are Winning In Iraq" dog don't hunt anymore...
except for in the imagination of the imaginers and their propaganda crews at the Pentagon.

Why not ask the people who were members of the Office Of Special Planning at the Pentagon and who helped Rummy instigate, advertise, plan, plot and sell the war in Iraq, "WHAT WAS THE PLAN THEN?" Put them under oath and ask them ALL about all the Plans past and present.

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