JFK threads...too much about assasination...not enough about the MAN...

[SaveElmer]

Much like I believe the supernatural stories surrounding Jesus' birth, death, and resurrection have crowded out the real value of his teachings....I find the ridiculous obsession with JFK's assasination crowds out remembering who the man was and what he stood for...

To me it is a crying shame that theories surrounding his assasination have become a multi-billion dollar business, and that on the anniversary of that horrible day, we are treated to thread afer thread of assasination theories...many contradicting each other...with each purporting to be the truth, while the profound effect on the country of his Presidency and his death are virtually ignored here...

I'd like to see more about JFK the person...not JFK the money machine!

[bronxiteforever]

1. agree-just read a great JFK book

"Ask Not" by Thurston Clarke. Great read and history of how the inauguration and the address developed. There is a scene where Robert Frost and JFK argue about changing a word in a poem he would read at the inauguration-can you imagine Bush even TALKING to a poet?

[merh]

2. Well, go ahead and post some

no one is stopping you.

[Octafish]

24. Exactly.

Otherwise, I might believe the OP is intended to stop discussion of the assassination.

The assassination was intended to stop Kennedy's policies: Peace, Equality and make life better for ALL Americans.

[merh]

29. And considering the fact that the same group of folks

suspected of having a hand in JFK's death are a part of the same nasty folks screwing up this nation and making the world an unsafe place to live, I think the discussion is more than appropriate today.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

3. Dont be silly.

His assassination is one of the most important political
events in the history of the nation. The day people stop
talking about it will be a day as terrible as november 22, 1963.
In fact, your take on it (let's only think about the wonderful
man and his wonderful time in office rather than trouble ourselves
with why and how he met his unfortunate demise etc) is precisely
the take his killers had, and urged the nation to have as well.
Youre in the wrong place, my friend, if you expect your plea to
be taken seriously.

[SaveElmer]

6. The effect on the country of the assasination is very important...

Conspiracy theories are not!

[A-Schwarzenegger]

14. Because much of the truth of the assassination was covered up,

much of what we have is theory. To study "the effect on the
country of the assassination" without exploring who wanted
those effects to come about (i.e., who wanted him dead), and
all the other historically relevant elements of the crime itself,
is silliness. Are you complaining as well about the
Warren Report's laughably absurd "theory." You want us to focus on
what a swell guy he was. Like there's none of that!

[SaveElmer]

16. It is no longer an attempt t o find the truth...

And is nothing now but big business...

JFK himself could come back to life and reveal the name of the assasin and that still would not stop it...

It will NEVER be resolved to the satisfaction of these people! It's about the money!

[A-Schwarzenegger]

18. Most of the money made on books about the assassination

has been made by authors like Posner who agree with you that
we should stop talking about the who, why & how of the assassination
and cuddle up with the cozy fairy tale of the Warren Report. You should
be happy, not whining. And history isnt about "satisfaction", it's about truth. You were "satisfied" with the Warren Report, werent you?

[SaveElmer]

20. There are already dozens of assasination theory threads...

I won't be a party to turning this into another one...

There is too much of it alreay in my view!

[A-Schwarzenegger]

23. OK, I'll stop trying to trick you

into posting something of substance. :eyes:

[SaveElmer]

28. Already have...

Just not the topic you wanted to discuss apparently!

[HCE SuiGeneris]

31. Because you don't believe it was associated with other

political figures in the U.S. -- it has no merit. Umm... wrong.

[pooja]

4. Here's where I am... wayyyy to young to even know what the Kennedy's

were. Old enough now to know of teddy's past troubles and the son's death and the other scandals some of the clan gets into now and a again.

It shocks me when I hear a speech from him. It shocks me because the written words are sometimes poetry and I expect a deep, poignant voice... Not a nasaly, New England voice not deep enough. When he I hear old speeches I hear his own fear of being in charge of a govt so overtly corrupt that he's unsure if the words are to steady him or the people. I hear the trouble in his voice.

Maybe he woke the nation a bit, but didn't have the time to tell the truth.. It has all now been neatly tied up and delivered as Patriotism.

I do not pretend to know anything about him. I do not pretend to know the feelings of a nation who lost a president to murder. I cannot understand how or why after that moment in time that this country didn't revolt against the b.s., but allowed itself to be catapulted into a war. Horrible times. I would think anyone who knew that time would be protesting any violence and any war. The weapons only have gotten worse. The corruption ever deeper.

[Melynn]

5. The JFK assasination changed everything

It is a cliche that 9/11 "changed everything" but it was really the JFK assassination that changed everything. America was never the same after November 22, 1963. That's why we still talk about it.

[misternormal]

7. It was a sad day that will live forever in our hearts...

"A young Man from Boston,
Set sail on the New Frontier...

But all our dreams,
Dead end in Dallas...

They buried innocence
That year"

[Melynn]

13. A part of America died that day

Since then, America society seems to have wallowed in cynicism and negativity. We should always remember what was taken from the country on that day.

[SaveElmer]

10. Yes his assasination did have a profound impact...

Independent of its cause...discussing that is important

[rman]

8. you could just ignore, hide those threads

Instead, you're telling people what to discuss and what not to discuss.
Typical.

[SaveElmer]

12. Typical?

Can you provide any evidence that I have "told" people what to discuss...

Are you saying that I should not express my disappointment at the unwarranted obsession over the JFK assisantion at the expense of talking about the man and his legacy?

Typical!

[A-Schwarzenegger]

15. So stop whining & post about the man & his legacy.

[SaveElmer]

17. Frankly...

I do not believe I am whining...I believe I am expressing disappointment...

Apparently I have hit a nerve!!!

[A-Schwarzenegger]

19. Still waiting for your first post on the man & his legacy.

Looking forward to it, but not holding my breath.

[SaveElmer]

21. Gosh...

Why the hostility...

Seems I have struck a nerve...


Don't worry, one post from me isn't going to slow up the JFK assasination industry...you are safe!

[A-Schwarzenegger]

22. Oh, all right, be silly then.

You and your Warren Report. :hi:

[Joe Chi Minh]

25. Why do you persistently refuse to post anything about the man

and his legacy? You could, at a stroke, remove our suspicions that you hate everything John Kennedy stood for.

[SaveElmer]

27. Bizarre...

How does anything I have said indicate I hated JFK...just weird...however I have started a thread on the topic!

[Joe Chi Minh]

30. Why, your adamant reluctance to do what you suggested others do:

write about John Kennedy, the man, of course.

I think it would be too viscerally abhorrent for a neocon to do such a thing, so you can understand our concern about your reluctance can't you? Just write, even copy and paste:

"I think John Kennedy was one of America's all-time greatest heroes, a fantastic patriot, whose shoes his cheap killers weren't fit to lick, even covered in dog mess."

If you want, just put it in your own words.

[ComerPerro]

9. Get your flamesuit. These people are gonna flame you like crazy for taking away their favorite hobby

[SaveElmer]

11. I'm too old to care!...nt

[Octafish]

26. Telling people about Poppy Bush in Dallas on 22 November 1963 is no hobby.

It's more of a, em, mission.

Not too many people inside or outside of DU know anything about that.

Once they do, they don't think the same way about America's history since then.

Poppy Bush warned FBI -- AFTER -- JFK assassinated:



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