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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 11:28 AM
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Forming a committee to change someone else's sexuality
I think one of the most amazing stories about the Christian right is the response to the Colorado pastor who was discovered to be using drugs and getting massages from a male prostitute (or whatever). If he is doing something that is contradictory to their teachings and they ask him to step down- they have the right to do that. But forming a "team" to counsel Haggard- it strikes me as really desperate. What does Haggard want? To divorce and live an honest life as a gay man? To have a committee talk him out of all his 'sins'? Exactly how does a committee (think they can) change someone's sexuality? I really want to know.

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. – Citing a lack of time, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson withdrew Tuesday from the team overseeing counseling for the Rev. Ted Haggard, the evangelical pastor who was fired amid allegations of gay sex and drug use.

“Emotionally and spiritually, I wanted to be of help – but the reality is I don't have the time to devote to such a critical responsibility,” Dobson said.

The other two members of the team, Pastors Jack Hayford of The Church on the Way in Van Nuys, Calif., and Tommy Barnett of First Assembly of God in Phoenix, declined to comment. Haggard was forced out as senior pastor of the 14,000-member New Life Church on Saturday after a former male escort alleged they had sex repeatedly and that Haggard used methamphetamines.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/20061107-1819-haggard-dobson.html
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 11:29 AM
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1. Actually, the really unbelievable thing is the talking points the RW is using to defend it
stuff like, "Well, we as Christians are held to unfair standards by society, becuase unlike atheists and the humanists, we actually have morals and standards" or something to that effect....

Yeah, and that's why everyone goes crazy when they do fail! Precisely why! Because they remind us every day how much better they are than us.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 11:34 AM
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2. People who act "holier than thou"
deserve to be taken at their word and have it thrown in their faces when they are revealed as the total hypocrites they usually turn out to be.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 11:38 AM
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4. amen. But instead, when they are revealed as frauds, they instead attack us
by saying "well, at least I have morals, you don't!"
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 11:35 AM
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3. When they get past shock treatments and on to lobotomy they'll
be using committees, too.

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