Official Senate Vote - Alito Confirmation - Thread 1

[Viva_La_Revolution]

I wasn't gonna start a thread, cause yesterday still has me all torn up but... I need my buddies around to get through this today..

CSPAN2 right now. Schumer on the Floor.

on edit: is the title too harsh? I feel so Jaded (and Hungover) this morning. :( Ok, I adjusted it.

[Burma Jones]

1. Oh, I thought 2000 was the end of Democracy

This is starting to sound like the numerous Who "Farewell Tours."

Ah well, I suppose I'll just be a deluded fool and keep voting and working for progressive policies...

[Viva_La_Revolution]

2. Is that a Yes, the title is too harsh?

[janx]

6. Your hangover might be contributing to your depression

just a bit... ;-)

[berner59]

9. Not harsh....simple truth....

Schumer did a good job... Here's my hope: some rulings come up where a women's right to choose is in danger and women from far and wide stand up and fight and vote these assholes out of office... Fall elections will be the test, then these guys will regret what they did...

Hey I can dream....it's all we've got...

[Burma Jones]

20. Maybe a little

I understand the judicial philosophy of Alito, I don't agree with it, but I understand it. I do know that nothing he and his brethren can do is unchangable through legislation. FDR dealt with a far more right wing court than we will have, even to the point of trying to stack the deck, and FDR made things work.

If Roe is overturned, we will have to win in the state Legislatures and in the meantime help women get to Progressive states if they need to.

If the Unitary Executive is established, we will have to gain control of Congress (which we have an excellent chance of doing, IF we don't pull a Jim Jones trick here over Alito). Alito et al will give precedence to legislation over raw execuive power grabs.

Guys like Alito are absolutely enamoured with legislative intent, with the Legislature deciding law. If we want to have a progressive society, we have to elect legislatures and executives to do so. If we cannot, then we will have to move or accept that this is a predominantly center-right country and try to carve out progressive enclaves within it.

[Sammy Pepys]

5. I guess it'll be something 57/59 to 43/41.....

Alito will be robed up by tonite.

[SammyWinstonJack]

8. Exactly what I thought when I read the title. It's always the

end of Democracy around here.

[sasha031]

3. that is one powerful pic revolution/ it says it all

[Viva_La_Revolution]

4. Slither Sessions up now nt

[sasha031]

7. little rat bastard

:argh:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

11. Malfoy.... all growed up

[Mist]

12. Sessions always puts me in mind of a description of a fictional

character: "He had a prissy little drainhole of a mouth." I have a hard time listening to Sessions' smarminess.

[hwmnbn]

10. just wanted to say thanks....

to you for keeping the threads organized. I dropped in and out of them yesterday and saw your name often. I feel just as bad but without the hangover.

I don't even have anything sparkly to say to lift your spirits, other than you're not alone. :grouphug:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

13. that's what I needed...

:hug:

Now, If I can just get that slime on my tv to SHUT UP! :puke:

[Sydnie]

14. Have a hug on me

:hug:

I didn't even drink anything last night, but I feel hung over right along with you. Just tuning in now.

Thanks for the thread sweetie.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

15. Morning Syd! Try not to get us banned today ok?

:rofl:

[Sydnie]

21. I will attempt to keep my head

and my more risky graphics to myself!

[Mist]

16. Sessions gives a description, in loving detail, of the infamous

strip-search of the 10-year-old. Stands to reason, so many Rethugs are pedophiles.

[Skidmore]

17. Too bad he didn't give that sooner. That was disgusting.

He just didn't see what the problem was.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

18. Biden - bringing up opinion on Executive Powers nt

[Viva_La_Revolution]

19. Leahy up for 9 minutes. Giving respect to Corretta Scott King...

may she RIP.

[Skidmore]

23. King George the Third.

Yup, he's being coronated tonite.

[Sydnie]

31. I just cleared the cobwebs from my head and heard that news

I am so sad. :cry: I fear that all the voices that we need so desperately are being silenced again, this time by forces beyond our control.

Who will step up now?

[second edition]

22. This thread is painful.

I feel lousy, but I bet John Kerry and Ted Kennedy feel 100 times worse. They know better than us just how much this appointment will damage all of the progress made in the last 70 years and hurt the less fortunate people in America.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

24. details from the "liberal" media here... actually it's an ok article

schedule for swearing in and some back ground on the vote.

WASHINGTON - Samuel Anthony Alito Jr., the son of an Italian immigrant and a longtime lawyer, prosecutor and judge, is poised to take his place as the 110th Supreme Court justice behind what is expected to be the most partisan victory for a high court nominee in modern history.

lots more - http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=82920

[Viva_La_Revolution]

25. FYI Spector - Sociopaths are very good at "keeping poised and calm"

:mad:

[Skidmore]

26. Apparently Specter's "anxiety" about Alito and choice didn't

rise to the level of defending it.

[Catchawave]

27. Good Morning Viva !

Thank you for running these threads :hi:

Did you see Rep Dingell on WJ this morning. He was fabulous !

[Viva_La_Revolution]

28. I did, and was impressed by him, as usual.

Morning! :hi:

[librechik]

29. which dems are voting yes? Nelson and?

[SillyGoose]

30. Byrd and Conrad and Johnson

edited to add Johnson

:(

[librechik]

35. (shaking head) Sad

:cry:

[realFedUp]

66. I can't monetarily support anyone who votes/voted for Alito. nt

I won't support them on this board either.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

32. Frist - trying to brown nose the pResident right in front of everyone

EWWW! now getting on his knees to thank Scalito for being sooooo coool. :puke:

Final vote as soon as he gets back off his knees.

[WePurrsevere]

60. We don't have satellite or much TV even.. please tell me he's not actually

on his knees and doing that. :wtf:

[Sydnie]

33. they threw a bone to Stevens

"A Vote From Their Seats" :wtf: No milling around?

[Viva_La_Revolution]

34. Voice vote - making them stay seated?! waz up with that?

[Catchawave]

40. All that gloating after the cloture vote

is my guess.

[Skidmore]

45. It's a photo-op. for election year.

Makes it look like decorum existed. Prolly will be the backdrop for the SOTU tonight.

[coffeenap]

36. DId I just hear Baucus vote aye?

[Skidmore]

37. Cantwell voted no.

[realFedUp]

38. yes he did....nt

[SillyGoose]

39. Yes, you did.

[Skidmore]

41. Why did he bother with that sob speech he gave late yesterday?

[coffeenap]

53. Changed his vote!

[realFedUp]

56. interesting...and quick...nt

[coffeenap]

57. CSPAN now shows 41 against--would have been nice--YESTERDAY!

[Sydnie]

61. ain't that the truth! n/t

[realFedUp]

62. in our dreams only....unfortunately. nt

[realFedUp]

42. Are Republicans Collins, Dole, Snowe supported by NARAL?

if they are, they shouldn't be.

[seabeyond]

43. KERRY and BOXER NOT there to vote??????

[Mass]

44. They will come later.

Plenty of them missing at this point.

[seabeyond]

48. snow and collin yes.... hm

[seabeyond]

47. rickefellar and someone else not there n/t

[Sydnie]

46. what's up? Where are all the dems this morning? n/t

[Skidmore]

49. Landreiu votes no.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

50. lots of skipped votes.. not present or not voting?

on edit: going through those now.

[realFedUp]

63. I wonder if they all knew the votes would be from their seats. nt

[realFedUp]

64. Any surprises? nt

[peacetalksforall]

51. Collins and Snowe - Yes? Nelson of NE - YES

[Sydnie]

52. Specter is going to have a lot of explaining to do when he goes home!

He voted aye and his district is NOT going to be happy.

[Freddie Stubbs]

65. He isn't up for reelection until 2010

And he hasn't had a tough general election since 1992.

[Sydnie]

69. but he made promises to his district to protect R v W

and they are not going to be happy with him. He probably won't run again anyway.

[Freddie Stubbs]

73. He also voted to confirm Scalia and Thomas

Yet those have never hindered his reelection efforts.

[Sydnie]

76. Because there was no chance with the make up of the court at the

time, that it was in any real danger. It is now, depending on how long the other justices can hold out. No one knows if they will wake to a new morning. Heart attacks and car accidents happen everyday. Where they don't necessarily have the votes today, no one knows what tomorrow might bring. As long as blivet** is in the WH, we need to pray that they all enjoy good health and personal safety. Know what I mean? We don't need another seat to open up. If that happens and Specter does as he did today, he will have to answer to his district and it won't be pretty.

[seabeyond]

54. before i could get tv off, cnn kerry's huge failure yesterday allowed

the easy sweep today........... or some such rot

[Mass]

55. Baucus changed his vote to NO

[Skidmore]

58. Kohl voted no.

[Skidmore]

59. Chaffee no, Nelson (FL) no, Nelson (NE) yes.

[sundancekid]

67. conrad of dakotas voted yes

[DCal]

68. Rockefeller NO

[Catchawave]

70. On MSNBC - 58 yes, confirmation confirmed n/t

[Viva_La_Revolution]

71. Final - 58-42 Fascist is Confirmed

[realFedUp]

72. 42 oppose....large enough to filibuster. Not a great statement on Alito.

nt

[nickinSTL]

74. large enough to filibuster IF they'd all voted against cloture

but they didn't.

[realFedUp]

75. yes. Voting no on cloture should have been a prudent choice. nt