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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 07:51 PM
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Is anyone else expecting catastrophe before the 110th Congress takes over?
Tinfoil Hat? Perhaps.

But I'm convinced that the Repugs tried their best to steal the 2006 midterms and failed. I've always felt that they would abandon any principle, break any law in order to hold on to power. Add int the fact that Cheney has got to be terrified of the coming investigations -- especially since the Dems are going to focus specifically on his Energy Task Force -- and I start to get worried. I'm wondering if this new Congress will ever take their seats.

It doesn't have to be bald imposition of martial law. They could just attack Iran. Or stage another false-flag attack on US soil. Or, they could just crash the economy by over-printing money (which they're doing) or allowing China to stop buying our debt (which China has recently hinted at). Heck, the economy seems to be close to collapse as it is -- you wouldn't really need that much of a push to send it over the edge.

Am I crazy, or will Cheney, et al. do something horrible to head off close oversight of their criminal behavior?

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 07:54 PM
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1. I think you are right
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Wanet Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 07:55 PM
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2. I'm expecting a massive "terrorist" attack on Washington
just after the new congress is sworn in. This would take out the Senate, House, and Supreme Court. Guess who's left to declare martial law?
-- Wanet
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 07:55 PM
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3. I'm just expecting all those lame ducks
to do as much mischief as they can, passing as much of Stupid's extremist agenda as they can, including the destruction of social security.

Whether or not that will pass the Senate is anyone's guess.

Good luck to the incoming Congress in getting that shit overturned, too. Expect Stupid to veto just about everything.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 07:56 PM
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4. I wouldn't put anything past them, but ...
they seemed pretty confident they were going to steal this one too. They just weren't prepared for the size of the tsunami. So ... chances are there is no contingency plan in place. And they're not geniuses - just common criminals who can't win if they don't cheat. So I'm not too worried.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 07:58 PM
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5. There was a plethora of trepidation and hand wringing here before the election.
Relax and recall all of the dire predictions last October. Attacking Iran was a popular one.
There are enough real things on the table without conjuring up all sorts of anticipated catastrophes.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:00 PM
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6. Re: The financial collapse scenarios you mention...
(and others) ...

The repugs don't want those to happen till AFTER 2008. In fact, they are manipulating and sweating and straining as we speak to keep them from happening NOW.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:03 PM
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7. I think it will be Iran
Bush is a obstinate, arrogant, bully who will not take NO for an answer.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:04 PM
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8. I refuse to live my life in fear
That does nothing but please the republicans and the terrorists.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:09 PM
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12. Who is living in fear?
I don't see fear here... but I do see solid thinking and good, honest preparations for a worse case scenario. There is no need to change the way we live our lives, only the way we remain aware of our surroundings.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:18 PM
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14. I dunno...seems like everyone's constantly afraid of imminent doom
I thought it would end after the election victory, but no...it continues.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:20 PM
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15. There is a difference between being afraid and being vigilant
I think we are just keeping our eyes open.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:25 PM
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19. There is a difference but too many people around here call
yelling "We're doomed" being vigilant. Just do a search for all the pre-election doom posts if you need to see what I mean. Most of them were not couched in vigilance terms, but rather as a fait accompli.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:21 PM
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17. To mis-quote Gordon Gecko: "Fear is good"
I fully believe that our "fear" of a stolen election prevented the wholesale theft of the 2006 midterms. I also think that our "fear" that BushCo were directly responsible for 9/11 has kept them from trying another false-flag attack.

Perhaps a well-publicised "fear" that BushCo may crash the economy could, in fact, prevent them from doing so.

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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:27 PM
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20. Fear can be a powerful survival mechanism
but it's not healthy to be constantly in a state of fear. There is a reason that both Al-Qaeda and the republicans have been trying to keep the american people in a state of unreasoning fear...
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:31 PM
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21. It's not "unreasoning" to fear the Bush Regime
I could have posted something in 2001 saying that I "feared" that Bush was going to stage a false-flag attack on our country. People would have said that was unreasoning.

I could have posted something in 2002 saying that I "feared" that Bush was going to lie us into a war with Iraq. People would have said that was unreasoning.

I could have posted something in 2003 saying that I "feared" that Bush was going to steal the 2004 election. People would have said that was unreasoning.

I could have posted something in 2004 saying that I "feared" that Bush was systematically torturing detainees. People would have said that was unreasoning.

I could have posted something in 2005 saying that I "feared" that Bush was going to allow an American city to drown. People would have said that was unreasoning.

I could have posted something in 2006 saying that I "feared" that Bush was going legalize torture and suspend habeus corpus. People would have said that was unreasoning.

Nothing is beyond these people. Fear == Vigilance.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 10:16 PM
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26. I think you can be vigilant without the constant fear of doom
I know I'm in the minority on this board, but I would argue that all of those things you have listed ARE unreasoned fear so long as they are unsupported by evidence. Look, there are literally an infinite number of bad things that can happen. In this wide universe, eventually ANYTHING is possible, but it makes no sense to live in fear of them. A common theme at DU is the wish for Democratic representatives with 'a spine.' I think we need to lead by example in this case.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:04 PM
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9. I can't find my links right now,
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 08:11 PM by Lars39
but there is a 'Doomsday' plan that these traitors have...whichever congressperson can physically make it back into congress after a national emergency of some type will be involved in the government, those that can't make it are SOL. Couple this with our near-forgotten 'shadow government' and we're not out of the woods yet. :(

Here's a link for the shadow government:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1848303.stm
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:07 PM
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10. I've expected it ever since the election
Their greed and anger has now been amplified by their imploded egos... expect anything. And remember, they got away with it once or twice so they are emboldened, and oh, so dangerous.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:07 PM
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11. No.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:17 PM
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13. Who knows what Cheney and the Saudis are cooking up but if
Bush "has an accident", do not let them blame the dems. Cheney is the kind who can shoot his good friend in the face then blame his friend.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:21 PM
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16. The Only Catastrophe I'm Expecting is for the GOP
Fitzgerald should start coming into play soon.

The Bushbots haven't had time to plan anything beyond election day. Rove thought he had the election in the bag, and now he's let the team down. Congress has flipped, and the natives are very restless.

If they had a plan B (joke, get it?) they would have sprung it before the election in desperation. But they didn't. They didn't understand that the jig was up. The voters had caught onto the game, and were changing the rules and their responses. The Busheviks still haven't figured out how to respond, as proven by their inability to change tactics. Hence all the junketing to other lands. They are looking for strain relief, ideas, and allies against fed-up US citizens. Fortunately, they aren't finding any.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:21 PM
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18. Bush leadership is worsening Iraq war thats progress for defense contractors which
Daddy is still on the board of directors, you know they'll into providing wars.
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dicknbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:37 PM
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22. Well I read this quote by Joe Wilson....
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 08:40 PM by dicknbush
"With every passing day the situation becomes ever more grave. I worry that we might actually have to fight our way out. There are no magic bullets."

Joe WIlson on Iraq.


And from Mr.Churchill.....One of W's favorites. Of course he obviously didn't read this one before he went off on a misguided adventure in Iraq:


"Never, never, never believe any war will be smooth and easy, or that anyone who embarks on the strange voyage can measure the tides and hurricanes he will encounter. The statesman who yields to war fever must realize that once the signal is given, he is no longer the master of policy but the slave of unforeseeable and uncontrollable events." -
-- Winston Churchill



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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:08 PM
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23. Ho hum. Back to this are we?
They're going to invade Iraq before the election! They're going to call off the elections and impose martial law! They're going to dissolve the Congress! And on and on. Don't you guys ever get tired of being wrong?

They're enfeebled. They can't even raise the stupid color alert thingie these days without being mocked.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:16 PM
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24. Yes, I have a great sense of foreboding -
Greater than I have ever had before. The whole Mideast region is about to go up in flames. And once Israel gets in the mix, along with their and other's nuclear capabilities..... I don't want to think about it.

The only way Dumbya can divert attention is to do something (or allow something) horrific.

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:53 PM
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25. I think they will try
but it would bring Civil War... and revolution and thats where we are headed
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