So, was the Jordan Summit Fiasco just Bush trying to

[jannyk]

give a big 'fuck you' to the ISG on an international stage? If the 'leaks' are to be believed, they recommend a draw down.

The pissy little chimp was going purple while reiterating that the troops stay until the job is done. No retreat. Important for the world not just region etc., etc..

Was it a preemptive stamping of his tootsies in defiance of the ISG? Just to show who's boss?

[maddezmom]

1. that's what I'm thinking...there was nothing new presented at the press conf

just the same old stuff, with no explanations of how and when :shrug:

[jannyk]

2. Yep, same old same old. I think all that 'talk'

about Daddy's henchmen taking over, together with Rummy having to go hurt his ego. What we saw tonight was nothing more than 'grandstanding'. Absolutely nothing new, no new ideas, insight ...nada. Little Lord Pissypants was asserting his importance.

Of course,that backfired somewhat when Maliki dissed him yesterday. :rofl:

[maddezmom]

3. But one thing I keep thinking...is this Maliki's "Heck of a Job" moment?

will bush push him aside first chance he gets like he's done with sooo many others?

[jannyk]

4. I'm sure they're working on an 'understudy' as we

speak. If Maliki tries to show any 'free will' or starts 'ad libbing' - he's toast.

You are right though - Bush did come awfully close to 'Heck of a Job Maliki!' tonight. I'd be worried. I wonder if he has to go home now and kick Talabani's ass for hobnobbing with Iran?

[papau]

5. Sure sounded like "Heck of a Job" - great strong leaders are hard to find, I guess n/t

n/t

[maddezmom]

6. Analysts: SSDD

ANALYSIS: Plans for Iraqi forces vague By SALLY BUZBEE, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 28 minutes ago



CAIRO, Egypt - President Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki both told an anxious world Thursday that they want to speed the handover of security responsibility to Iraqi forces as a way to calm the country.But neither gave a clue as to how they might accomplish that difficult task.

The problem is that more guns, military training or even more U.S. troops are unlikely to result in a strong, capable Iraqi force without Baghdad solving the underlying problem — sectarian militias infiltrating Iraq's government and police and engaging in reprisal killings that are tearing the country apart.

Even in his private talks with Bush, al-Maliki was noncommittal when probed on his plans to deal with the Mahdi Army militia blamed for much of the sectarian violence, according to a top al-Maliki aide at the meeting.

The Iraqi prime minister said only that it would not be a "big problem" to handle the group, the aide said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the meeting was private.

Yet so far, despite continued vague promises, al-Maliki has done very little to curb such militias. That has become a key frustration of the Bush administration, according to an internal memo by a top Bush aide.

more:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061130/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_what_way_forward

[jannyk]

7. So, today's leaks from the ISG more or less

confirm that last night's farce was just Bush posturing.

Just reported on CNN that:

There is NO Timetable
Recommends gradual drawdown - but no specifics (time or numbers)
Pressure Maliki to be more authoritative and take more control.


That's what Bush tried to convey last night, and it was scripted to appear as if the ISG have no new ideas (which apparently they don't) and that Bush had it all worked out by himself.