Dustin Hoffman: Bush manipulated 9/11 attacks to facilitate the invasion of Iraq

[sabra]

http://www.pr-inside.com/hoffman-bush-manipulates-r28016.htm

HOFFMAN: 'BUSH MANIPULATES 9/11'

Acclaimed screen star DUSTIN HOFFMAN has slammed US President GEORGE W BUSH for manipulating the 9/11 terrorist attacks to facilitate the invasion and occupation of Iraq.

The RAIN MAN actor now feels "self-conscious" about being American because he can understand why the nation has become a focus for resentment around the world.
He says, "I think that the administration manipulated the grief of 9/11. They did it then and they do it now.

"Everybody knows why they wanted to go into Iraq and it had nothing to do with weapons of mass destruction.

"I'm an American and it's not a good feeling. When Americans say, 'I don't know why they hate us so much,' that's an uneducated response.
"There are lots of reasons why we're hated."

[Botany]

1. Go "Little Big Man."

" .... it was then I knew what I had to do. I was going to look
the devil himself in the eye and call him a son of bitch."

[porphyrian]

7. That's a great movie. - n/t

[underpants]

13. My all time favorite movie

Am I dead yet

No Grandfather

Sometimes the magic works sometimes it does not

[porphyrian]

31. ...and that's my favorite part. - n/t

[Cobalt-60]

35. I like it all

But the part where grandfather displays his powers of invisibility rocks.

[twilight_sailing]

2. He's a quick study, ain't he?

[valerief]

3. You tell 'em, Tootsie! nt

[Kelly Rupert]

4. Took him five years to figure that one out? n/t

[truedelphi]

5. In a sense I agree with you

In another sense, maybe he has been saying it for four years, and it has taken the media this long to get to it

Lately (since Nov 7th) I notice the media carrying a LOT of stories they did not care to cover earlier

They are beginning to realize their base in not there - we are here on the internet.

The MSM media needs to start reporting news in a way that will get us back viewing them

[truedelphi]

6. One important instance of the media

Changing the tune they whistle - they had Ted Kopple on the other night and let him mention Riverbend!!

[malaise]

8. One of my favourite actors

kicks Bush a good one. Dustin:yourock:

[Hav]

11. .

He's also one of my favourite actors.

Further, I don't agree with those who are acting so clever now and mock Hoffman by claiming that he just figured it out recently.
I think he was one among other good actors who were very early against this war. It's just that no one listened or they were told to shut up (like for their Oscar speeches).

[Cha]

30. I agree with your

sensible post.

[dfgrbac]

9. Yeah, and we need to know the depth of this manipulation!

Please sign this petition on 9/11 to the new Democratic leaders!

[petgoat]

14. Also sign the Scholars for 9/11 Truth's petition for the

release of suppressed evidence, including almost 7000 WTC photos and 7000 WTC videos,
Pentagon surveillance tapes, plane parts, black boxes, a clarification of Cheney's
shootdown order, info on war games and on insider trading.

Join almost 19,000 signators:

http://www.st911.org/

[IWantAChange]

33. Done. Also forwarded to Olbermann - hope his producers look at it.

[petgoat]

34. Hey, thanks. Welcome to DU. nt

[LSK]

10. watch the right wing attack him now n/t

[elehhhhna]

12. Wait 'til the Freepers find out he's jewish.

[PCIntern]

15. Wait until they find out that

Jill St.John is Jewish...

[elehhhhna]

16. or paul Newman

[Horse with no Name]

17. Or Jesus.

That'll get them going...

[nolabels]

18. Oh, gawd

Didn't even think about that one :crazy:

[elehhhhna]

19. YIKES! LOL

[ProfessorGAC]

20. Hey, I've Got A Question About That!

Does this mean Jesus is not in heaven because he hasn't accepted Jesus as his lord and savior? I mean that would be really egotistical to consider one's self one's own savior, and he didn't seem the type. So, that would exclude Jesus from heaven. Right?
The Professor

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

28. Well, if he's not going to hell for that...

then he's certainly going to hell for getting an unmarried teenage girl and his own mother pregnant.

[WinkyDink]

47. Just like with Dubya, his Poppy will fix things.

[cool user name]

23. Makes great salad dressing too.

[dddem]

41. you must try the pineapple salsa.

best ever.

[Name removed]

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[Kolesar]

42. So? ... eom

[dogday]

21. How about that? Dustin puts on his tin foil hat and

speaks out... What courage it takes to do this... Maybe one day we will find out the truth, the real truth about 9-11 and what was done or what wasn't done to prevent it....

[thingfisher]

24. Maybe we'll find out the truth behind

JFK, MLK and RFK at the same time?

[Codeblue]

29. That'll happen

when we die and every mystery of the universe is finally revealed to us by some way or another.

[hamletsophelia]

22. dead on!

I've been saying this for years it's so true, used people's grief and insecurity over 911 to their "advantage" though it doesn't seem to be working of late....

[Phrogman]

25. Manipulated the grief? Good God Man, he APPROVED THE ATTACK!!!

When are you Statesiders going to wake up?

[Skittles]

26. I never wonder why people hate us

I never have, I have always known

[focusfan]

32. I wish people would understand

that because Bush is a conniving lying childish son of a bitch
doesn't mean that the rest of us are as bad as him. other
Countrys should separate that.

[Bhaisahab]

37. in my part of the world,

they do separate the american public from the chimpanzee. but, and i dont mean to be rude here, most people i interact with consider the american public 'dumb' to have twice elected the chimpanzee.
of course, that opinion might change if the corporate media there and in india start following up on kennedy's excellent expose of vote theft in rolling stone.

right now, nobody would BELIEVE that shit like vote theft can happen in "THE GREATEST DEMOCRACY IN THE WORLD."

but that's never gonna happen coz this country's middle class and youth have been digitally chained by a fancy-shmancy cultural colonialism that seduces with conspicuous consumption rather than beating us into submission with military power, as the brits used to do in the good old days. the old style colonialists ruled us by depriving us of basic needs. this new-age colonialism rules by depriving us of intelligent thought and reason. in short. we are turning into a country of headphone wearing dumbasses who only want to consume, consume, consume.

we continue to drink the poison, and either through whips or through material greed, we continue to suffer.


EDIT: i'm really sorry. i seem to have deviated from the topic. :shrug:

[scarletwoman]

39. Thank you for your insightful post!

I'm very glad you "deviated from the topic", I find your observations very informative.

...this country's middle class and youth have been digitally chained by a fancy-shmancy cultural colonialism that seduces with conspicuous consumption rather than beating us into submission with military power, as the brits used to do in the good old days.

I am sorry that India has been infected by the Western sickness of consumerism, even though I understand the how and why of it happening. It seems to be a common human failing that once basic survival is no longer at issue, the urge for more "stuff" seems to kick in.

I have been an "Indiophile" (is that a word?) since I was a teenager in the early 60s and first came upon the Upanishads (a tremendous revelation!). I took Indian philosophy and anthropology courses in college, and studied Hinduism and practiced Raja Yoga for some years thereafter.

I eventually had the delightful privilege of visting India in 1982 (but only for a few days in New Delhi, on the way to a longer stay in Nepal), where I discovered that my small knowledge of Sanskrit actually lent me quite a bit of understanding of Hindi. I experienced an overwhelming sensation of being "home", it was really quite an extraordinary experience.

India will always be in my heart...

sw

[Bhaisahab]

46. the india of 1982, i'm afraid,

no longer exists. it's present only in hearts, like yours and mine. i long for the 80s, when we but one tv station and consequently so much more time to read and play, when delightful 'soviet book fairs' would present us with a world of awesomely cool books where beautiful vasilisa would be tormented by baba yaga, when a family scooter meant you have arrived in life, when life was slow, contemplative, and had a dollop of insouciance about it.

these days, insouciance is a ride in the escalator of the newest mall (ONE KILOMETRE OF SHOPPING ON EVERY FLOOR!!! INDIA'S LARGEST MALL!! and so on), crowded with addicts who would not think twice before shelling out 10 grand for an elephant made of fucking CRYSTAL by savorski!

on the other hand, i believe indophile is a word.

[druidity33]

40. seen the George Carlin rant?

that has been making the rounds here at DU lately? Could someone with a star/Search feature find it? It was titled "Who Really runs the world" or something like that... he elucidates precisely what yo're referring to and maybe explains how Americans have gotten "dumb".

i'll keep looking though...

[buddysmellgood]

36. Steppin up. That's a brave statement because it's true. He will be smeared. We need to

defend him where we can.

[Christa]

38. Good for him BUT

and it's a BIG BUT:

Where were all the people before the war? When WE know it was all a pot of crock??

A little too late now, we are up to our noses in this shit.

[Hav]

43. .

To name a few besides Hoffman: Sean Penn, Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, Martin Sheen. These are people who were against this war for years and who were very, very outspoken about it.
Often they only got smears in return or their intentions were questioned.
Other opponents were Fonda, Streisand and Mortensen.

We the people shouldn't solely rely on actors or celebrities to get informed or to be our voice. Of course, they may have a certain responsibility but nevertheless we should acknowledge it if they join us.


What I just got to know by googling, Hoffman said almost the same thing in fking February 2003! Yeah, that's right, 2003. But apparently no one noticed! So all those who said he needed so many years to figure it out, you are wrong.
No one cared what he said back then. Almost no one in the media had an interest in that.

This is from 2003:
“For me as an American, the most painful aspect of this is that I believe that that administration has taken the events of 9/11 and has manipulated the grief of the country and I think that’s reprehensible,” Hoffman said.

"I don't think that the reasons we have been given for going to war are the honest reasons.... I believe, though I may be wrong because I am no expert, that this war is about what most wars are about: hegemony, money, power, and oil."


I'd say, talking like that about 9/11 in 2003 needed some courage.

[Ms. Clio]

45. that's an amazing quote from 2003

"I don't think that the reasons we have been given for going to war are the honest reasons.... I believe, though I may be wrong because I am no expert, that this war is about what most wars are about: hegemony, money, power, and oil."

[goforit]

44. "The WAG THE DOG" man!!!! appropriate! Go Dustin!!!

[lumberjack_jeff]

48. "RAIN MAN actor"?

I could have sworn that I've seen him play other roles.