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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-02-06 10:41 AM
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Gore: Bush admin 'Most incompetent, inept, and with more moral cowardice..'
In an interview with GQ Magazine, former Vice President Al Gore -- who many Democrats believe should
have been determined the winner rather than George Bush in the 2000 presidential election which the
Supreme Court eventually decided -- maintains that he would have "heeded the warnings" in 2001 before
the September 11 terrorist attacks, although he added that "no one can say that the 9-11 attack wouldn't
have occurred whoever was president."

Gore admitted that "it's almost a little too easy to say I would have heeded the warnings," but left little
doubt that he thought the president hadn't done as much as he should have when warned by the CIA in the
summer of 2001 that bin Laden was determined to attack the United States.

"In fact, I think I would have, I know I would have," Gore said. "We had several instances when the CIA's alarm
bells went off, and what we did when that happened was, we had emergency meetings and called everybody
together and made sure that all systems were go and every agency was hitting on all cylinders, and we made
them bring more information, and go into the second and third and fourth level of detail."

"It is inconceivable to me," Gore continued, "that Bush would read a warning as stark and as clear as the one
he received on August 6th of 2001, and, according to some of the new histories, he turned to the briefer and
said, 'Well, you've covered your ass,.' And never called a follow up meeting. Never made an inquiry. Never
asked a single question. To this day, I don't understand it."

Later ...

"This administration has been by far the most incompetent, inept, and with more moral cowardice,
and obsequiousness to their wealthy contributors, and obliviousness to the pubic interest of any
administration in modern history, and probably in the entire history of the country!"


http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Gore_I_would_have_heeded_911_1129.html

Carve that one in stone.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-02-06 10:46 AM
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1. Pity he is holding back. But Gore has always been polite.
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 02:23 PM
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24. Not written in stone but written on a bumper sticker :)
"The Bush administration has been by far the most
incompetent, inept, and with more moral cowardice,
and obsequiousness to their wealthy contributors, and
obliviousness to the pubic interest of any administration
in modern history, and probably in the entire history of
the country!" Al Gore.

http://www.zazzle.com/product/128557566924316766
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-02-06 10:46 AM
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2. we have to get him to run for president again
please Mr. Gore. Run again.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-02-06 12:07 PM
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6. You don't think he is? I don't know. The man is on fire, and has been for
some time. I've been following his speeches closely, since before '04. Boy is he running--is my feeling. And he is in such a unique position--having, like Kerry, BEEN elected and denied the office, in the view of many, many Americans (--and even more Americans think this of Gore than Kerry), he can't play the game in a normal political way. And, anyway, this is not a normal political world. This is a highly distorted and extremely dangerous political world, with all the corporate news monopolies skewed to the right, massive crimes committed by the current regime, the VP saying he will defy Congressional subpoenas, the "balance of power" way, way out of whack, the Constitution in shreds, the Democratic leadership saying "impeachment is off the table," everybody--including many Democrats--corrupt and complicit on the war, on electronic voting and on a number of other things (torture, suspension of habeas corpus, spying, tax cuts for the rich, the bankruptcy law, etc.). He has the good rep that he fought hard against the stolen election in '00. He has eight years of experience in the executive branch. He has turned into a brilliant speaker. And he has a distinct air of independence, having been out of the stinky hogpen of Washington DC for 6 years. He's re-thought a lot of things. (I hope NAFTA is one of them, but I don't know.) He has superb focus on the fundamentals of our system of government. (His speech on torture will make you cry--we are so hungry for ETHICAL leadership, and for the "rule of law not men.") As I said, he is unique. Probably, he would like to bide his time all the way to the convention--which used to be possible, but no longer seems to be, with the primary system. But it could still happen--that no one emerges as the clear frontrunner, or there is a lot of infighting and bad feeling--and Gore gets drafted as the presidential candidate, at the convention, to pull the party together.

That's a long shot, though. I think he does want it, and I think he will enter the primaries. One reason I think this is: These are not just comments in GQ. He's been making major speeches, with a thorough and detailed analysis of the Bush Junta and what is wrong with it, for more than two years now. A lot of people are only aware of his global warming activism. But he's been watching the Bushites like a hawk, and has been dive-bombing on them, from afar, for a long time. Clearly, the chief issues of national government are the main thing that has been on his mind--in addition to global warming (which is also a major national issue)--and he hasn't written a book about it! That's not what he's doing--a mere academic or educational endeavor. He's PREPARING national policy--on a range of vital issues. And it's hard for me to believe that he isn't itching to implement his ideas.

I may be wrong. Perhaps he is not ambitious that way--and simply wants to be part of the solution. Maybe he would like to be chief of energy policy, or part of some commission to revamp the government and national politics, in the wake of the disaster that is Bush.

He certainly knows how to keep people guessing--increasing their hunger for an experienced, mature, brilliant, KNOWN candidate, with no taint of the last six years on him, who will sweep into office on a landslide. That's certainly the dream he ignites.

He could also be holding back so as not to suppress debate--to get a full debate and lots of candidates and ideas stirred up. If he announced now, others might drop out in deference to him.

When I think of Gore being president in '09, no one else measures up. He's has it all over the rest of the field, in experience, "seasoning," and clear thinking. And what a vindication it would be! I think Americans would gladly--joyfully--put him in the White House. Everybody else--even the best of them--is a question mark. COULD he/she do it? Are they up to it? Can they weather the storm of rightwing abuse? Would they really make a good president? With Gore, there is simply no doubt.

For a long while, I was pushing for a full Restoration Ticket: Gore/Kerry. I want to see things put right, and order restored. Whatever my political differences with these two have been, I believe they were both elected by the American people. I want the peoples' will to be done. Because it's right, and just, and lawful. And I think the combined whammy of this ticket would create a lot of magic. But lately Kerry has been stumbling all over himself, and perhaps could only end up as the VP candidate if Gore drafted him for the purpose of RESTORATION, of putting things right. (Kerry is also a brilliant man--he would make a truly great VP.)

Anyway, I think Gore himself--and whoever he is paired with--would win big, and would be very good medicine for our troubled country. We need a steady, firm hand. We need familiarity. We need the rule of law restored. And we need hope and vision as well. Gore possesses a lot of what we need, as a nation.

We need to admit that we are electing our self-image--not just a policy-maker. Immaterial vibes are important--especially given the destructiveness of the Bush regime, which has damaged the very basis of our democratic government, and our concept of ourselves as a people. Gore has good vibes. That's what it feels like to me--and I say that having had a really very grave difference with him over predatory capital's "globalization" (and a few other things). He may even be global capital's stealth candidate. I don't think it matters. And, for me, that's saying a lot. We have to restore order and the peoples' will before we can solve anything else. And for that we need positive vibes and optimism combined with maturity.
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twenty4blackbirds Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-02-06 08:18 PM
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9. kick for this post.
What a great way to frame the run for Presidency. Who reflects Americans best? A frat-boy party, or positive vibes? :thumbsup:
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 09:35 AM
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17. Your post is outstanding and right on. Recomended for greatest!
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 12:10 PM
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23. I think Gore would make a great president
He certainly has all of the qualifications, PeacePatriot. I hope you're right about his wanting to run, in order to implement his ideas. His speeches have all been brilliant, and he can help our country restore our reputation in the world. We are going to be paying for Bush's sins for a long, long time. As he has done his entire life, Bush will emerge richer than before, and won't have to bear the burden he has created.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-02-06 11:25 AM
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3. Blatant corruption has never been remedied by graciousness
alone.

IMHO
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-02-06 11:34 AM
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4. Gore Must Run
no one considering right-now has the cajones & smarts to communicate just how much damage the Bushies have done. Especially those who voted for the bloody mess in mess-o-potania.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 11:12 AM
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21. Run in the same system that allowed this war?
How can he do that now and look credible? I would only agree with him running again if he shuns the status quo party system COMPLETELY, and that includes the Democratic party elitist wing that also wanted this war in Iraq. Where is our Jefferson Smith? I always believed it was Al Gore, but I don't know if I can think that should he decide to run with the very Party elitists that allowed Bush to get away with these CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY without speaking out against them as well. If Mr. Gore believes in his heart that Bush and his cronies are guilty of crimes and not just "incompetence", (because this goes way beyond incompetence at this point to CRIMINAL) and that this system is indeed as toxic as he claims (which is absolutely correct,) then he must do the right thing for all Americans if he really wants to run for anything and shun them all for the betterment of our country as a whole. Perhaps once the DLC actually leaves the Democratic party and goes to the Republican Party where they belong I will then have more faith in this Party that they are not part of this corporate corrupted system as well.
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 09:22 AM
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25. Yeah, let's put up some hurdles and make it a little tougher for Gore to run
I know, how about he switches to the Vegetarian Party!

They certainly have nothing to do with establishment SOS politics.

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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:25 PM
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26. Stupid response
But not surprising. People just can't stand the truth no matter what Party they are in it seems.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-02-06 11:39 AM
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5. Thank you President Gore
I so hope to get to vote for him again!

Julie
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-02-06 12:32 PM
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7. The historians will agree with him. Read DUer Cal04's post...
Edited on Sat Dec-02-06 12:35 PM by 8_year_nightmare
WAPost:He's the Worst Ever

Edited to add that I see kpete, who's quick on the draw, has this article on the greatest page, where it belongs. :)
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-02-06 03:00 PM
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8. Good to see Al Gore has the gloves off for good
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-02-06 10:03 PM
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12. It sure is. Thanks for posting the article. :)
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-02-06 09:13 PM
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10. Conspiring to commit war crimes is not "incompetence."
Edited on Sat Dec-02-06 09:14 PM by pat_k
Incompetent my ass.

Conspiring to commit war crimes is not "incompetence."

Terrorizing us in a war of aggression with the most colossal bomb threat in history is not "incompetence."

Abusing power to subvert the Constitution and break our laws is not "incompetence."

I've had it with complaints and labels that carefully side step reality and truths that would demand ACTION.

A message to our so-called "leaders": If you aren't willing to DO SOMETHING meaningful you can keep your hollow complaints to yourself.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 11:00 AM
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20. I have to agree, This war was DELIBERATE
And planned by PNAC before 9.11 ever happened! As a free man now able to speak the whole truth, I hope Mr. Gore takes it the step further it needs to be taken.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-02-06 09:20 PM
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11. The real president speaks....
about the fraud that's occupied 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. for six years.


AL GORE 2008: THERE's NO OTHER CHOICE.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 06:04 AM
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13. If only incompetence, ineptitude, and moral cowardice were among this Administration's worst faults
and character flaws, maybe the damage inflicted on this once-Republic and the world, including its environment, could be overcome and mostly fixed within a decade or two. Actually this Administration has rather competently and aptly implemented its radical RW PNAC agenda with unflinching missionary zeal. Actually, this Administration has neither incompetently nor ineptly tended to the affairs day-to-day governance: those have just been mostly ignored. :rant: by inde :patriot:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 06:22 AM
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14. Reelect Al!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 07:14 AM
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15. Gore is President....I recall how the GOP led the Nation through the recount thingy
Edited on Sun Dec-03-06 07:16 AM by opihimoimoi
or should I say...the non recount...Bush took the low road...he could have said "lets do this right and have a Recount"...But NO, he did not. That set the tone , revealed a lack of charactor he should possess as a President.

The Nation now finds out the hard way what happens when we have Presidents with GOP backing and with weak charactoristics...

The GOP canardly pickum.....
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 09:44 AM
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18. Slithered through the recount ,and MSM helped.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 07:21 AM
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16. Never forget this speech
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/16/AR2006011600779_pf.html
<snip>
They violate the Geneva Conventions, the International Convention Against Torture and our own laws against torture.

The president has also claimed that he has the authority to kidnap individuals on the streets of foreign cities and deliver them for imprisonment and interrogation on our behalf by autocratic regimes and nations that are infamous for the cruelty of their techniques for torture.

Some of our traditional allies have been deeply shocked by these new and uncharacteristic patterns on the part of America.

For example, the British ambassador to Uzbekistan -- one of those nations with the worst reputations for torture in its prisons -- registered a complaint to his home office about the cruelty and senselessness of the new U.S. practice that he witnessed. "This material we're getting is useless," he wrote. And then he continued with this: "We are selling our souls for dross. It is, in fact, positively harmful."

Can it be true that any president really has such powers under our Constitution?

If the answer is yes, then under the theory by which these acts are committed, are there any acts that can on their face be prohibited?

If the president has the inherent authority to eavesdrop on American citizens without a warrant, imprison American citizens on his own declaration, kidnap and torture, then what can't he do?
------------------------------
I wish it was on UTube.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 11:17 AM
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22. The entire speech is on c-span.org:
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 10:54 AM
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19. Then Mr. Gore Needs to Publicly Call For Bush's Impeachment
Edited on Sun Dec-03-06 10:56 AM by RestoreGore
In my opinion, you cannot call for real accountability for the CRIMES of this regime and not call for impeachment.
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