Fox News Has Declared It Will Not Use Phrase “Civil War” To Describe Current Violence In Iraq

[KittyWampus]

Video at thinkprogress.org

Fox News ‘Unwilling To Fall Into…Tender Trap’ Of Calling Iraq A Civil War
Fox News has declared that it will not use the phrase “civil war” to describe the current violence in Iraq.

Fox’s Senior Vice President John Moody — whose infamous politically-slanted internal memos have gained notoriety — said in a statement that “some are using the term civil war to indicate failure, not inside Iraq, but on U.S. policy in Iraq. We’re unwilling to fall into that tender trap. We’re not using the term because there are non-Iraqis in the fray and that makes it something different.” Watch it:


Fox News is right, Iraq is not simply a civil war. ThinkProgress noted in October that Iraq has devolved into at least four distinct violent conflicts. But that does not mean that one of those conflicts is not a civil war. Indeed, according to scholars surveyed by the New York Times, not only is Iraq in the midst of a civil war, the current level of bloodshed “already puts Iraq in the top ranks of the civil wars of the last half-century."

[Skittles]

1. Fox News has declared it will continue to whore for bush

no matter how ridiculous they look......their idiot fans expect nothing less

[Monk06]

19. "The Whore on Terror" You have said something very deep.

[tanyev]

2. War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength.

[TheCowsCameHome]

3. You know, maybe they're right.

It's a Complete Fucking Mess.

[Straight Shooter]

4. "There are non-Iraqis in the fray."

Excuse me, in the fray?

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=30967&dict=CALD

the fray (ACTION) noun
an energetic and often not well organized effort, activity, fight or disagreement

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fray&r=66

fray
–noun 1. a fight, battle, or skirmish.
2. a competition or contest, esp. in sports.
3. a noisy quarrel or brawl.


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It is a war, John Moody, but you call it a fray. :wtf:

[TahitiNut]

9. Yes. They're called "Americans."

Moody is a fucking fascist piece of slime.

[Straight Shooter]

13. You're right. He's being disingenuous, isn't he?

You're much too kind in your description of him. ;)

[Turbineguy]

5. Not until

a Democrat sits in the White House anyway...

As an aside, I saw Faux news yesterday while having lunch. Just caught a few snippets. Everything that happens, happens because of terror threats. I didn't know that. So I told the waitress I couldn't pay because I was overcome with fear after watching the "news". My friends offered to pay just to keep me from going hysterical. Then they told me Michael Jackson was pregnant again. That calmed me down and I was able find my money and pay. American Idol re-runs should start soon. I'll be OK.

[Beetwasher]

6. By God, They're Not Even Wearing Blue and Grey Uniforms!

How the hell can you call it a civil war?!

[AIJ Alom]

7. The world according to FoxNews 1861-1865: The American Conflict

of Secretarian Violence.

[AlCzervik]

8. ww2, the german uprising.

[XboxWarrior]

10. Pithy Reply.....

Who the f&ck cares what FOX news says? (sure they are the netwoork of lies)

the peeps that watch FOX? Ditto Heads?

not moi

[NuttyFluffers]

15. i like civil war as, "Intra-Community Heated Disagreement"

though i must say "Ongoing Celebratory Gunfire" really does take the cake as the funniest.

[alfredo]

11. There were foreign fighters in the Spainish Civil War.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

12. However, they WILL keep on using the lame-ass "homicide bomber", eh?

[Sabriel]

14. I prefer "Ongoing Celebratory Gunfire"

(Thanks to the Franken Show for that one)

[KittyWampus]

27. hadn't heard that... it's a good one

[kentuck]

16. Instead they will use "domestic disturbance"?

And words are all we have ...

[gulliver]

17. Well, that finally decides it for the real news organizations.

A "civil war" it is.

[threadkillaz]

18. Facts are stubborn things.

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." -- John Quincy Adams

[brettdale]

20. Faux news will

Faux news will never call it a civil war, unless they can start pinning the blame on Pelosi.

[6000eliot]

21. Well, that's a surprise.

:sarcasm:

[mykpart]

22. Dear John:

Call it whatever you like. It is what it is, and will be what it is, regardless of the word you choose to describe it. Just calling a civil war an insurgency doesn't change the facts. We should repeat this mantra every time some Republican speaks about ANYTHING.

[nolabels]

23. The first mistake most make is in the thinking they actually broadcast news

:rofl:

[WCGreen]

24. They are so irrelevant now.....

No one except the kool-aide drinkers watch...

Preaching to the choir...

Same eyeballs day after day, year after year....

[AussieDave]

25. This is the propaganda arm of the Republican Party

We should expect nothing less.

[alfredo]

26. There were foreign fighters in the US civil war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_enlistment_in_the_American_Civil_War

Union enlistment

Although its largest foreign contingents were made up of Irish and German-Americans, over 60,000 Canadian and British volunteers served in the Union Army. Regiments such as the 79th New York Infantry Highlanders, originally formed in the 1850s, consisted completely of Scottish immigrants before accepting Irish, British and others into its ranks during the early years of the war. As the war continued, volunteers including Frenchman, Hungarians, Scandinavians, Mexicans and others (including a small amount from Asia) would eventually enlist in Union service.
Communication problems, especially in Union regiments, were a constant problem with divisions made up of varied ethnicity's including volunteers from Ireland, Italy, Germany, Poland and other European countries. One regiment in particular was made up of both officers and soldiers from 15 different countries, with the commanding officer's orders having to be passed down through seven different languages. Major General Franz Sigel had his orders translated from his native German, to Hungarian for his officers, then to English for the rest of his command and finally to German again when Sigel received reports.

Confederate enlistment

While less successful in attracting foreign recruits to the rebel cause, thousands of immigrants and mercenaries served in the Confederate Army with its own Irish Brigade and Polish Legion as well as several German and Mexican divisions. The most notable volunteer division was formed from various European countries in Louisiana under the command of French Major General Count Camille Armand Jules Marie, Prince de Polignac. Other prominent volunteers included Scottish born blockade runner Capt. William Watson.