Any CA teachers here? I have a question about Clear Credentials.

[Kerrytravelers]

Ok, so, I applied for my Clear Multiple Subject CLAD in September. Yesterday, I get this email:


The California Commission on Teacher Credentialing on 12/1/2006 issued you the
following document:

Clear Crosscultural, Language and Academic Development Certificate
Document Number: XXXXXXXXXXX
Issuance Date: 06/19/2006

As of January 1, 2006, the Commission on Teacher on Credentialing is no longer
printing or mailing Certificates of Clearance.

Applications submitted through a recommending agency via the online process are
mailed to the applicant.

Paper applications submitted through a college or university are mailed to the
recommending college or university.

This document can be viewed on the following link in 48 hours:

https://teachercred.ctc.ca.gov/teachers/PersonalSearchProxy

Please do not respond to this email; it is for notification purposes only.





So, when I search my name, I get this:

Clear Crosscultural, Language and Academic Development Certificate



Document Number

XXXXXXXXXXX



Authorization Code(s)

S12




This certificate, when held in conjunction with a prerequisite credential or permit specified in Education Code Section 44253.3, authorizes the holder to provide the following services to English learners: (1) instruction for English language development in grades twelve and below, including preschool, and in classes organized primarily for adults, except when the prerequisite credential or permit is a designated subjects adult education teaching credential, a children's center instructional permit, or a children's center supervision permit, in which case instruction for English language development is limited to the programs authorized by that credential or permit; and (2) specially designed content instruction delivered in English in the subjects and at the levels authorized by the prerequisite credential or permit. Education Code Section 44253.3 includes all credentials and permits that authorize instruction except emergency credentials or permits, college or university internship credentials, District Internship Certificates, Exchange Certificated Employee Teaching Credentials, or Sojourn Certificated Employee Teaching Credentials.



Renewal Code(s)

S31B




This certificate need not be renewed. The authorization shall remain in force as long as the valid prerequisite credential or permit is held concurrently.



Issuance Date

06/19/2006



Date of Original Issuance

06/19/2006





Everything is about the CLAD, but nothing is about the Multiple Subject. Now, it did say to wait 48 hours, so perhaps everything is not online yet? But how can I have a CLAD and no Teaching Credential. Does that make sense? I did everything required to keep my Credential, so I just don't get this.



I'll keep self kicking this in an attempt to find somebody. I'll also be cross-posting this.

[Mz Pip]

1. Teaching Credentials

need to be renewed every 5 years. I renewed my on line earlier in the year and a couple of weeks later I was sent a copy of my updated teaching credential. The renewal process was really easy. It didn't even ask for verification of the professional growth hours I'd done, just asked if I had done them and for the name of the person who would sign them off.

Maybe your Clear Credential doesn't need to be renewed yet?

I've had pretty good luck emailing questions to the Commission for Teacher Credentialing and getting answers back in a day or so.

Good luck. It's a huge bureaucracy in Sacramento.

on edit: Maybe you have a Life Credential and don't need to get it renewed? I don't know when the State stopped issuing those - maybe in the early 80s.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Kerrytravelers]

3. They stopped Lifetimes in 1985.

My was up for renewal this year. I did all the paperwork.

My question is why am I only hearing about the CLAD and not the actual Teaching Credential?


A couple of weeks? It's a five month turn-over wait. I sent mine into Sacramento in September, and am just now hearing back, which I expected. I was surprised that the CLAD was renewed separately than the Multi-Cub Teaching Credential. Is this normal? It seems odd to me.

Also, this is the first time I'm renewing. Yes, the paperwork was very simple. My email says they're not sending anything via mail anymore. What exactly did you get?

[Mz Pip]

5. The CLAD

seems to be the one they are focusing on. I suspect they are handled separately since so many people have to run out and get the CLAD even if they have a Lifetime. I don't have a CLAD and decided not to bother since I retired in June. I figured I'd keep the Multiple Subjects updated since I might want to substitute sometime.

I got that same email, but they sent me my teaching credential anyway. I was sort of surprised when I got it. It came within a couple of weeks from the time I applied online.

Don't know what to tell you. Send them an email and ask what's hapening with the Clear.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Kerrytravelers]

6. Ok, that explanation of the CLAD makes sense.

I looked up a friend my age who teaches after my last post. It seems they list the Multi/Single Sub Credential, the CLAD and the Clear as three separate items. A bit strange to me, but ok. I am just getting nervous. I just got a new teaching job and I don't want any mistakes. It's been a smooth transition so far and I want it to stay that way! :)


I sent the paperwork in. When I was applying for my Clear, the site said that on your first application for a Clear, you had to send in the paperwork. Hopefully next time, I can just do it online as you did.


Agggg! I'm probably just being high strung anyway.

[madmusic]

2. Thanks to both of you for your service.

And to all the other teachers here, too.

[Kerrytravelers]

4. self-kick

[ourbluenation]

7. weird - i pulled up my husbands and there's no date by "cert of clearance"

Document Title Expiration Date / Status

Professional Clear Single Subject Teaching Credential 04/01/2007

Professional Clear Specialist Instruction Credential in Special Education 04/01/2007

Emergency Crosscultural, Language and Academic Development Permit 04/01/2007

Certificate of Clearance

Professional Clear Single Subject Teaching Credential 01/01/1997

Emergency Specialist Instruction Credential in Special Education 06/30/1993

Professional Clear Single Subject Teaching Credential 04/01/2002

Professional Clear Specialist Instruction Credential in Special Education 04/01/2002

Waiver Resource Specialist Certificate of Competence 08/24/1996

[Kerrytravelers]

9. I'm glad to see that the Clear and the Single Sub are listed separately.

If they are doing them separately, then mine is just only part-way done. My email said in 48 hours, which means tomorrow. But I know I did all the paperwork correctly, and since they gave me my CLAD, which came attached to my credential, I have no worries that I also have my Clear. It's just a matter of getting everything listed online at this point.

But what chaos to figure anything out. My last district has ZERO support. I never even met my BTSA adviser. My first principal from Northern California where I first began teaching became my professional adviser out of the kindness of her heart. Otherwise, I'd never know what to do!

[EFerrari]

8. This is why I've never applied to teach in a CA high school.

I can't figure out the paperwork although I managed to get my CBEST years ago. If I'm not smart enough to do the paper, I probably shouldn't be teaching. :silly:

[Kerrytravelers]

10. It's not intelligence to doing this paperwork, it's just being sure that everything gets done right

in Sacramento. I don't want a clerical error to inhibit my job at all.

[EFerrari]

11. No kidding. And this is one difference between teaching

at a University and teaching in grammar schools. At the U, there was a whole staff to help with this stuff so I could concentrate on teaching. Public school teachers actually have TWO jobs, teaching and dealing with an unruly bureaucracy.

I don't know how you all do it, I really don't. :shrug:

[Kerrytravelers]

12. This is part of the reason why 85% of teachers quit in the first 5 years.

This nonsense. I spend more time jumping through hoops and teaching to the test. I really don't educate, I simply force random knowledge into kid's heads.

[EFerrari]

13. I know! My godmother is a great teacher and I saw her battle

this cR@P! while she kept chosing the hardest schools in San Francisco to teach in. Or, to try to teach in.

Since I'm nearly older than dirt now and much more patient, I will probably do a stint in the Mission if I can blast through the paper next year.

What has been done to our schools is a shame, it's shameful. When I went through this school system in the 60s in Cupertino district, we had an admin staff, we had a school nurse, we had a psychologist. We had PAPER and pencils and ART AND MUSIC classes and everyone knew your name.

It's enough to make you weep.

[Kerrytravelers]

14. I just transitioned into a Chartered Home School.

I serve as an Educational Consultant to the teaching adult (parent or guardian) of the kids. I help them find appropriate curriculum, assist with grading, assessments and all the other legal stuff that goes with homeschooling. We are not the only chartered home school in the area. It is a growing movement that serves a very useful purpose. If these home school kids continue to do just as well as public school kids in testing, scoring, college acceptance and contests (like Spelling Bees, Geography), perhaps all this NCLB and other teaching to the test bullshit will go the way of the dinosaurs. There is no need for all that. Education should be about learning and growing, not testing and hoops to jump through.

[ourbluenation]

16. my understanding is that the home schooled do not measure up, comparitively. n/t

[Kerrytravelers]

19. I don't find this to be true, at all.

[EFerrari]

21. How does this get quantified? In a parallel universe,

had my mother been able to homeschool me, I would have been ready for college when I was 14 or so. And, on the other hand, we have the Yates tragedy.

[Kerrytravelers]

23. As they are under our watch, and have legally binding meetings and outings, they aren't

isolated.

[EFerrari]

25. That's good to hear. I'm all for the learning situation that works.

That works for kids. And that it becomes a political football isn't useful to those kids.

[Kerrytravelers]

26. Me, too. PS works for some, hs'ing for others.

It's really dependant upon the kid. I never would have done well homeschooled, but others don't do as well in a traditional brick and mortar setting.

[EFerrari]

17. IIRC, there is a Bush-McMillan connection? Is that how you spell

that publisher's name? So, part of all this NCLB cR@P! is simply cronyism -- surprise? No.

Testing is not teaching.

I think that home schooling is just the thing for some kids but not all kids. I, for example, probably would have done better had I been home schooled instead of being forced as I was to wait for the rest of the class to catch up with me as I did all those frustrating years. (And who knows how many other kids in the room were serving the same time?) This is a complicated issue, I know. But on the whole, imo it's a big mistake to take our public school system apart, a huge mistake. Because it's so much harder to stand as a community and get what you need piecemeal in terms of funding or other kinds of resources or support.

[Kerrytravelers]

22. The carter school is still public, and many of the kids do eventually

return to a PS, as the families are generally not the right-wing fundies who want to destroy the government and public institutions. Many are actors (this is LA), children who are ill, kids who are far ahead or far behind, or kids in a failing district wanting a transfer.


I don't know how to answer the publisher question. We have a choice of many curriculum, or none at all, if one prefers. Everything does, however, have to pass through me as their teacher.

[Mz Pip]

18. My son is a teacher

He came back to CA after graduating with a double major (Music and Education) and a teaching credential from a college in NYC.There is supposedly reciprocity between NY and CA but he really had to jump through hoops to get a 5 year 'Provisional' credential. He had to take the CBEST, he had to get a CLAD and then he was told after teaching for 4 years he would have to go back to school and do a 5th year. :mad: He figured he'd have to take a leave and take out loans.

It was nuts since he already had 5 years of college due to his double major. I told him to pursue this and find someone who knew what they were talking about because that just didn't sound right. He stayed on it and at the end of all the hassle all he needs to do is take 1 computer class. 1 computer class is a huge difference than an entire year of classes.

So hang in there. Just figure it will probably take whatever district you work until the end of the year to even notice that you don't have all your paperwork!

Mz Pip
:dem:

[EFerrari]

20. Thank heavens for your son.

My nieces are in CA schools, the three of them. They're too smart and too energetic and every morning among my other petitions, I wish them able teachers.

That's what we've been reduced to -- wishing.

[Mz Pip]

27. Thank you from him

He works his butt off. He's smart, kind and gentle and is valued in his district. He teaches 1st grade. I think he wants to stay in teaching but the pay sucks. His best friend from childhood owns a house and has a wife who is a stay-at-home mom with their two kids. He's a plumber. My son has a roommate in a not so cool neighborhood in Oakland. His friend has told him anytime he wants to change professions there's a place for him in the business. He probably makes more than twice as much as a teacher. Maybe 3 times as much. And I doubt they take their work home...

Mz Pip
:dem:

[EFerrari]

30. I don't know where we would be without him.

All best to him.

[ourbluenation]

15. special ed teachers only last 2 years! my husband is special himself...

only way he could get thru it all these years if you ask me - i'd go nuts. the kids are great - the parents are often a nightmare.

[Kerrytravelers]

24. I did inclusion, so I was able to have another teacher with classroom aides.

Being a self-contained special ed teacher is so rough. I commend anyone who can do it. My first district would rotate you in and out of Special Ed and Gen Ed. My last one wouldn't even hear of it. Needless to say, they had a huge number of Special Ed teachers quitting each year.

[ourbluenation]

28. he had his own room, special day class, for years. they were great kids

mostly. but it was tough for sure. now he's reource for the district assigned to a charter school only because it came with a volleyball coaching gig (his real love).

[Kerrytravelers]

29. I've always had a special place in my heart for Special Ed kids.

I've taught in districts where support is readily available, and others where you couldn't find someone to help you no matter what you did.

Now, I will have special ed kids, but in a different environment. I'll have to make updates so as to compare the advantages and disadvantages of home versus public versus private schooling.