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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:19 AM
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Where was the coverage? Where was the outrage?
When is terrorism, not terrorism?
I guess when it's perpetrated by homegrown, rightwing nutbags and sociopathic teens.

Over the past year, four news stories have somehow seemed to have flown well below the radar of our ever vigilant, leftwing biased, liberal press. :sarcasm:

While the press has been fixated over Nancy Pelosi’s latest outfit and whether newly elected House Representative Keith Ellison is secretly supporting al-Qaeda because he wants to use the Koran instead of the Bible, there seems to have been little in the way of coverage involving the following events, three of which some might call acts of terrorism and one of which shows how easy it was for the Germans to blindly follow Hitler and allow over 6 million people to be killed.

The first of these involves two 15 year old boys. These boys were arrested late Saturday night and charged with setting off two homemade bombs inside a Wal-Mart that was filled with holiday shoppers.
At least eight people were treated for irritation to their eyes and throat or ringing in their ears.
The boys also made three other explosive devices and placed one of them on the roof of a business and two on the lawn at someone’s house. None of the three bombs exploded and they were retrieved by investigators.

The second incident involves white supremacists in east Texas armed with poisonous gas. “The case was so sensitive” according to a local CBS affiliate “that President Bush received daily briefings.
Bill Karr, a supporter of the New Hampshire Militia and his supporter(s) produced hundred of cyanide bombs capable of killings hundreds, if not thousands of people. The white supremacists were producing poison similar to what was used by the state to execute people.
The group possessed illegal machine guns, boxes filled with a half-million rounds of ammunition, 100 homemade bombs, nerve agents and the antidotes for the nerve agents and a Ku Klux Klan calling card.
Did this make it as a headline on CNN, MSNBC or faux news? Did Sean Hannity wax philosophical about the dangers of right-wing terrorist groups? Did Bill O’ Reilly yammer on incessantly about the dangers of these right wing groups that want to kill you and our loved ones here?
After all, the cities listed in their plans included Harrisburg, PA, Roanoke, VA, Bristol, TN and other American cities as Zone One areas.

Let’s move on to incident number 3. Demetrius “Van” Crocker.
Mr. Crocker is a right-wing extremist who happens to be white.
Mr. Crocker was convicted in April of trying to obtain a chemical weapon and for possessing stolen explosives. He was sentenced to 30 years in prison.
Crocker told undercover FBI agents he was going to detonate a briefcase bomb while Congress was in session.
Mr. Crocker thought he was purchasing the ingredients to make Sarin nerve gas and a block of C-4 explosives from the agents.
Did Wolf Blitzer have a panel of experts on to discuss the dangers of ultra-conservative males? Did any pollsters run a poll asking, “In light of the recent attempts by ultra-conservative white males to get nerve agents and bombs that could kill thousands of Americans, should we be profiling these people?” or “Are you afraid to live next door to conservative white males because they could be part of a hate group that would want to kill you and your family?”

Which brings us to the fourth episode. To those who say, “It could never happen here.” I bring you to the attention of America’s newest hero, radio personality Jerry Klein. Jerry Klein started on a hate-filled, Muslim bashing rant just after Thanksgiving where, among other things, he said that Muslims should have to wear ‘crescent-shaped tattoo’ or an armband to identify them as Muslim.
The first caller basically told him he was crazy. But, the second caller and many more after that called to agree with his anti-Muslim statements. Some even chided the talk show host for not going far enough.
It turns out that Mr. Klein staged his rant to see what the reaction would be. To say the least, he was extremely disturbed (as anyone should) by the number of people who called to agree with him – or to say we need to go further.
Was this covered for days by CNN? Was it the front page of the NY Times? Were any of these stories on the front page?

Where was the outrage? Where was the fear mongering? Where was the concern that these people were a danger to the safety and the fabric of American society? Where were Gibson, Bennett, Watts and Coulter to create fear and hatred of conservative, white male Americans?
Why aren’t we deporting these people and all their relatives?
Why are we waiting for them to strike?

links for my research: http://www.boston.com/news/local/maine/articles/2006/11/26/2_teens_charged_with_setting_off_homemade_bombs_in_wal_mart/

http://whoviating.blogspot.com/2003/12/we-found-wmds-no-really-we-have.html

http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2006/11/other-kind-of-terror_30.html
http://www.jacksonsun.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061129/NEWS01/611290311/1002

video links:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5350.htm

http://www.wusa9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=53930
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:25 AM
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1. Where indeed? k&r
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:27 AM
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2. You forgot the lunatic in Davenport, IA on 9/11/06
On September 11, 2006, the fifth anniversary of the terror attacks that devastated our nation, a man crashed his car into a building in Davenport, Iowa, hoping to blow it up and kill himself in the fire.

No national newspaper, magazine, or network newscast reported this attempted suicide bombing, though an AP wire story was available. Cable news (save for MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann) was silent about this latest act of terrorism in America.

Had the criminal, David McMenemy, been Arab or Muslim, this would have been headline news for weeks. But since his target was the Edgerton Women’s Health Center, rather than, say, a bank or a police station, media have not called this terrorism — even after three decades of extreme violence by anti-abortion fanatics, mostly fundamentalist Christians who believe they’re fighting a holy war.

http://www.thephoenix.com/article_ektid28087.aspx

Oh, by the way, that particular clinic did NOT offer abortion services.
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:36 AM
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3. My answer will have to wait
Until I'm calmed down to the point at which I won't
get banned by DU or investigated by the NSA.

:grr: :grr: :grr:
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:42 AM
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4. Excellent Post - it's not Terrorism when it's Right Wing ideologues
Edited on Mon Dec-04-06 12:42 AM by givemebackmycountry
And let's not forget that nut job Castenega in California who sent "pretend anthrax" through the U.S. Mail to John Stewart, KO and Pelosi among others.

Oh, and speaking of anthrax...who sent those packages right after 9/11?

Glad to see the Monkeys administration is so hot on THAT trail.

These people are ultra-right and ultra-insane.
They hate everything America and love everything fascist.

But, their day is coming...
This is AMERICA and if they hate it so much as to want to kill other Americans I say they belong in Bush's secret prisons.

I'm tired of these people, I really am.

Edited for my kick/recommend/nominated and everything else.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:45 AM
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5. Yet more disheartening gags on what is news by the
CM. And ole Newt Gingrich is running on this platform. Makes me physically ill to be living amongst such twisted "people".

Great post!

Newt's Reich Wing Agenda :http://www.infowars.net/articles/november2006/301106Newt.htm
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:19 AM
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6. Apparently, the far right-wing nuttery
is able to escape detection by our fearless media. The group is east Texas sounds especially dangerous. The MSM, who willingly cover missing blondes, and the vapid statements of the celebrity du jour, see nothing worth reporting in the examples listed in the OP. Personally, I'd rather have the hard news, myself.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:39 AM
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7. I seem to recall a couple in Texas with a vast arsenal in their basement.
This was 2 or 3 years ago, maybe. Not even a blip on the radar screen of the so-called liberal media.

We are manipulated into being afraid of anything that seems "different," but the truth is, the danger lies in what seems most familiar and secure. Witness the tragedy in Lancaster where those young girls died at the hands of a rampaging white male.

Excellent post, rpannier. K&R.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 02:16 AM
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8. and don't forget FReeper terrorist mailer, Chad Castagana
but it's not like there's a pattern here, or anything.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 06:28 AM
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9. K&R
:kick:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 06:31 AM
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10. Great post
Silence is consent.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 06:34 AM
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11. They are cooking up a LIHOP. . . .
One of these right wing nutbags is going to succeed. The hammer will come down. Corpomedia will blame it on Islamic extremists and we will not have time to get the truth out, or be listened to when we do.
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bagrman Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:05 AM
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12. These would be to small, Has to be big enough to bring about martial law.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:11 AM
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13. And the Michigan Militia is still going strong.
We have our own homegrown terrorists, and yet that's not a story. Odd.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:19 AM
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14. K&R/nt
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ftr23532 Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:44 AM
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15. For much more on the far-Right and terrorism...
...and the far-Right's direct connections to many other terrorist groups (including al-Qaeda), http://fortherecordessays.blogspot.com/">check this out. In particular, check out the second half of http://fortherecordessays.blogspot.com/2006/11/part-3-down-al-taqwa-rabbit-hole-so_11.html">Part 3 and the articles about Ahmed Huber.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:03 PM
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16. As long as a Con is in the Oval Office, you won't hear it
You won't hear a peep about it because that would explode heads that rely on cognitive dissonance to make sense of the world around them.

But, if a Democrat were sitting in the Oval Office, it would be setting the stage for publicly aired investigative hearings 24/7 in the run up to Impeachment proceedings.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:13 PM
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17. Let's try not to scare the American people again
:sarcasm:
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:14 PM
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18. kick
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StrictlyRockers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 02:15 PM
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19. K & R Too bad these stories don't fit the image they are selling gullible americans.
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thingfisher Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 04:46 PM
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20. Remember Waco?
This story was shredded pretty well by the media. There was a lot more going on there than we were ever allowed to know about. Numerous articles were written about the various right wing groups (ie Elohim City) that were infilitrated by the FBI and those who were invovled in arms trafficking, etc.
It would seem from this story at least that some right wing groups may have been used by government people to plan and carry out terrorist attacks.

The first world trade center bombing had also been infiltrated by the FBI but allowed (inexplicably) to proceed using live charges dispite attemptsd by some involved to end it before the operation could be concluded.

It is a gambit with a proven track record. So, as with so much that transpires in our world , the average Joe is left to wonder and scratch his head, trying to make sense of it all.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 04:50 PM
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21. You make an excellent point. Meanwhile, Jose Padilla, a U.S. Citizen,
Edited on Mon Dec-04-06 04:51 PM by leveymg
was held under conditions of psychological and physical stress so severe, for so long, while being held without charges as an "enemy combatant" that he's now been diagnosed as mentally incompetent to stand trial.

How do you figure the distinction in the way these stories have been treated?

What trumps all, Padilla never really was trained or expected to build a radiological dirty bomb. That was a claim made by another low-level al-Qaeda agent who Bush ordered tortured. Torture led to torture, which now makes a trial and conviction impossible and all but meaningless in the Padilla case. See, http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/12/4/94943/1086
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 09:49 PM
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26. That's the point I wanted to make
and the gov't won't allow his lawyers to bring up the treatment he received during incarceration because it might "inflame" the jury! his lawyers have said that Mr Padilla can not be convinced that they are on his side and want to help him because he is so fearful and delusional from what has happened to him. It's the color of his skin, if you ask me.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 05:15 PM
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22. Tim McVeigh was rarely identified as anything but a "domestic" terrorist
and neither was Eric Rudolph.

Funny.

Newsprism
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 05:19 PM
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23. We are fighting them over there so that...
They can create more over hear...These people have been planning and practicing for wars in this country for years...
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 06:43 PM
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24. K&R
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 07:12 PM
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25. But, but, [insert RW gasbag] said that all terrists were ragheads!!!
:sarcasm:
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