Cheap Labor vs. Population Control?

[Ciggies and coffee]

I overheard a discussion the other day and I was wondering if anyone
can make sense of this.

Are the super-rich in favor of population control, directly or indirectly?

Are the rich folks who dream to be super-rich in favor of cheap labor?

Any comments are appreciated.

[selfdestructive]

1. "Are the rich folks who dream to be super-rich in favor of cheap labor?"

LOL....
i'm sorry but i just couldn't resist.

[Bozita]

2. Every breathing being is another consumer and potential $0.20/hr worker.

What's not to like?

[Ciggies and coffee]

4. True. The real question is whether there is a line where...

..gaining power for your class and controlling competition for natural resources becomes a
greater priority than cheaper labor/more money made from consumers (Those two sort of
contradict each other BTW-cheaper labor has less money to spend on stuff).

[Bozita]

6. Rightwing Henry Ford's "$5.00 a day" pay -- He needed consumers.

And his workers consumed ... an awful lot of cars.

And America changed.

Old Henry wasn't much schooled, but he had a better grasp of economics than the folks working in the White House today.

[lvx35]

3. I bet they do favor population control...

Or they will if they don't now. Human life will devalue. As supply increases, demand will decrease, and demand will radically increase for foods, open lands, resources.

[Crandor]

5. and they'll be the only ones able to afford them

Why do you think the right wing keeps attacking abortion and even birth control? Certainly not because they want to keep population down.

[lvx35]

7. Why do you think they keep putting suppressing safety, healthcare, welfare

for children while simultaneously backing free and open markets for dangerous products like cigarettes? This argument goes both ways. But the things you bring up are mostly fundy Christian causes, not pushed by corporate pukes...Therefore after 6 years of TOTAL republican control of SCOTUS, congress and whitehouse birth control and abortions are still safe and legal.

[Crandor]

8. It's not just a religious right thing

most "libertarians" want to ban abortion too. And when it comes to birth control, they always defend attempts to withhold it by saying that in a free market nobody is forced to sell something (while omitting the obvious fact that in a free market, sellers wouldn't need a pharmacy license to sell it in the first place).

Yep, they do love to cut things that save lives... but in the grand scheme of things I think the effect on population is quite small. Cigarettes in particular, tend to kill you later on, after you're out of the labor force.

[lvx35]

10. It pretty much is, really.

The official stance of the Libertarian party is to support choice, and I'm sure that they support birth control...they are the party of legalized prostitution and drugs, so I can't see them freaking out it.

Regarding cigarettes and so forth I don't know, really. I do think smoking really cuts into labor productivity, but to be frank I don't think they NEED american labor at all at this point, its just for show to prevent vast poverty and revolution. :shrug:

[TahitiNut]

9. The "ownership class" wants cheap workers who can't or won't vote.

"Guest" workers, undocumented migrants, H1B, and disenfranchised ex-felons (we have the biggest bumper crop in the world) are their ideal. Education? No ... worker training is all that's needed. None of that "liberal" stuff in our schools!

[Kiouni]

11. they just want white teenagers

and tons of them. Is how it sounds to me.

Don't raise the minimum wage because the only ones making that are high school students!