What--no uproar from sensitive DUers because we're making fun of Poppy Bush crying?

[trumad]

Where's the usual "leave family out of it" crowd.

Or is it because we know he provided the demon seed that has become his son?

[nashville_brook]

1. it's nanny naptime

[mike_c]

2. dubya is just a defective copy....

Poppy is the real deal. In many ways just as evil as 43, but considerably smarter.

[ComerPerro]

3. more likely you will see people pushing the "he wasn't as bad as W is" BS

[Kelly Rupert]

He wasn't.

There hasn't been a single president as bad as W is.

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[RaleighNCDUer]

37. Only because W is both evil and stupid, instead of being simply

evil.

[trumad]

5. He created the monstors

so he's as bad....

[Kelly Rupert]

4. With the initial bait having no effect,

the trolling becomes more brazen.

[trumad]

7. If I catch your drift... ya got me...

I've been trolling since 2001 and no one has ever caught me, until now.... consider me busted.

[Duncan Grant]

41. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.

Looks like trolling to me. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[trumad]

49. guess you have no idea what a duck looks like.

[AJ9000]

48. You're right. It's a useless thread and it's trollbait. I don't give a shit how long he's been here.

[Beaverhausen]

6. Um, he was president a few years back

Maybe you have forgotten. :shrug:

[trumad]

9. Yeah--but he's an old man and everything...LOL

[Catherine Vincent]

8. LOL! n/t

[Solly Mack]

10. Have to wait until he dies

and then mocking GHWB will bring forth a self pleasuring orgy of outrage

[wryter2000]

11. Some think it means Alzheimer's

I wouldn't wish that on anyone. However, assuming he's healthy, the difference between him and Santorum's kid is the kid was a child. She didn't cause anything awful her father did. She probably didn't even understand any of it. Poppy Bush has been more than enabler. He's been an accomplice.

[Gormy Cuss]

25. Poppy Bush is a politician, former CIA, and and accustomed to public scrutiny.

It does make him outside of the "leave the family out of it" admonition, but I see no point in poking fun at a blubbering old man either. Maybe he's crying because Jeb is unlikely to become president now that the idiot son has proved the Peter Principle.

[RedStateShame]

33. I won't believe that until Dubya flip-flops on stem cell research.

[RedStateShame]

13. The "leave family out of it" defense is for innocent people. There is no innocence in that family.

Bushes are like Kennedys, if Kennedys gave birth to children out their asses. Not only are there no tears for the Buses, there is not enough urine in the world to douse their graves appropriately.

[Virginia Dare]

14. I guess sticking up for old Poppy...

is a DU bridge too far. It's good to see that there are some limits.

[seabeyond]

15. i think it is mean. i think it is stupid. your

choice.

good enough trumad, or need more enthusiasm.

and doesnt make me a nanny takin a nap since you didnt here me say shouldnt be allowed. but is oh..... childish to say the least

[trumad]

18. say again?

[seabeyond]

19. huh?

[trumad]

21. huh back....

[seabeyond]

22. lol ok. n/t

[sniffa]

16. *yawn*

what? no DUers crying out for attention?

[lukasahero]

17. Because he's not "the family"

He's a former president who chose to go into politics. The "leave the family out of it crowd" is usually asking us to be sensitive of the people who have not chosen to go into politics.

Personally I have stayed out of those threads but I do have some thoughts about it...

If he is truly crying because he is truly hurt, then why would anyone make fun of that? We've been trying for a long time to say there is no shame in crying. That "men", in fact, do cry and it doesn't make them less of a "man" to do so.

However, I suspect these are crocodile tears (but who am I to say). I would still rather he cry over the damange his son has wreaked on the world than over the things people say about his cosmically challenged son.

[307 MMS]

40. Bingo

"However, I suspect these are crocodile tears (but who am I to say). I would still rather he cry over the damange his son has wreaked on the world than over the things people say about his "cosmically challenged" son".
I like "cosmically challenged". That's a great assessment. He has no idea what awaits him. The havoc that Sr. has caused over the years(by just siring this turd with legs)along with the reaping of profits out of the Carlyle Group and other investments, and his criminal relationship with the House of Saud, gives me absolutely no pause to feel any pity for any one of this family. They're all treasonous, unpatriotic traitors to what this country is about and on what principles it was founded on.
To put it politely, just like they would.....FUCK UM!!!!!!

[Mojorabbit]

20. I think it is sad

I have a soft spot for elderly people and I do think dementia is setting in and being as we just buried hubby's dad at Thanksgiving after he had been deteriorating from alzheimers it hits me in an emotional way. I believe in justice but I am not by nature a vindictive person. As a former nurse I comforted many elderly as they broke down and cried and I did not care what they had done in their life. It was the human thing to do. So there you have it.

[Counciltucky]

23. You're a better person than I am. That's all I have to say. n/t

[Midlodemocrat]

26. I would venture a wager that those elderly you comforted weren't

responsible for other people's deaths. Poppy can't claim that, dementia or not.

He's sickening.

[Mojorabbit]

31. Actually you'd be amazed at confessions

I have heard while I held someone while they passed. From little things to big things.A few were elderly prisoners. Some cried for their long dead mothers.
All I am saying is it looks like he is sliding into dementia. When who you are is leaving all you are left is the remnants of a human who may or may not remember the things they have done. I said that I believe in justice.
I want to keep my humanity. I just witnessed a man, my husbands father lose who he was and become emotional and childlike. I am watching my own father become frail and fragile. I will not make fun of anyone elderly that breaks down no matter how much I may loathe what they have done. I refused to be consumed by hate.

[Midlodemocrat]

42. But none of them were responsible for the deaths of thousands

like Poppy is with his encouragement of his son's actions. Let alone his own behavior when in the CIA.

Sorry. Not giving him a pass. I have a great deal of exposure with Alzheimer's and its victims. Generally, the 'core' personality of the individual is what is seen in the latter years of dementia.

Let's see if Poppy's 'core' is even human. No 'humane' individual could sit idlely by and allow his offspring to wreak what they have upon this world.

Dementia or not.

[Bonobo]

24. Not from me!

But I still think this is another typical Trumad flame-bait post.

[softwarevotingtrail]

27. I wonder if he cried when he toasted all the Iraqis on the "highway of death"

No Andover grads in that lineup.

[Generator]

28. HA! You called it.

Noodle boy thread. STOP making fun of him now, you damn horrible Democrats.

[jarab]

29. Taking your bait ....

I really believe a lot of the outrage you attempt to revive is primarily evident when we pick on the unelected children and spouses of the (usual) full-grown men we do select; Babs, Pickles, the Twins, Chelsea.
The parents of chronologically-aged male progeny apparently are immune when we assess blame. How many of us have "raised" perfect children? How many of us have "outlaws" or "fools" we must call our children? We'll never know in this venue.

Perhaps the demons which possess W are on the maternal side of the family. I don't know, and therefore will not attempt to assign blame (there).

Just my opinion. And, though I thought I'd never admit it, the old man was a real man when compared to his son one-on-one.

(Hurriedly spitting out the bait)

...O...

[TahitiNut]

30. "Making fun"?? Of one of the most despicable displays of a corrupt sense of entitlement ever?

I don't make "fun" of that ... it's abominable! And the media's treatment of it is WORSE! :grr:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2862668

[mentalsolstice]

32. Are you referring to the Santorum debacle?

I was one of the ones that spoke out in defense of Santorum's children. They are minors. They do not have the freewill to refuse to be trotted out on the political stage. They're young, and right now, they know of no other way of life. Leave 'em alone until they're old enough to make choices about how they live, what clothes they wear, and what their political leanings are. Even then, I would lean toward leaving adults alone if they simply chose to go quietly about their lives regardless of some politico in their family.

In most cases, Poppy has willingly put himself out for public comment, and thus comments are warranted. However, I'm reluctant to comment on him in this case, as I've seen my own elderly relatives get hyper-emotional as they have gotten on in years.

[H2O Man]

34. Maybe we could

lobby the US Supreme Court, and ask that they just put poor Jeb in for two terms, unelected. It might seem we are bitter, if we don't. We seem to be moving too quickly away from republomania.

[trumad]

44. Ah ha...what's Jebs middle name... no google.

[H2O Man]

50. Easy.

It's "Eb." He used to star on Green Acres. His younger brother W. does a mean Mr. Kimble. Dick Cheney might thus be Mr. Haney. That means Karl is Arnold.

[trumad]

52. Pickles aint no Zsa Zsa

btw: It's Ellis.

[Raster]

53. jeb is a nickname comprised of his three initials: John Ellis Bush

[AlCzervik]

35. what was he crying about? Did he just realize who his son is?

[TheCowsCameHome]

36. *W* would bring a tear to a glass eye. Poppy should feel ashamed

of what the kid turned out to be.

[fairfaxvadem]

38. No. GHWB just proved what many of us guessed.

He always liked Jeb. He probably never really got along with Junior. Jeb's his boy. Junior belongs to Babs the total Bitch, and the other boys were just extras that they never needed. May as well be orphans, Marvin and whatshisface, Neil?

I'd be very surprised if, in two years, Poppy sobs like that over W.

Although I have to say, watching that piece of video was really disturbing. I felt like I was intruding, and I turned the channel.

[Crunchy Frog]

39. I've seen some uproar about it.

I first learned about it from an uproar thread that I saw this morning. It was the first I'd seen of it, and led me to find the thread that was being uproared about.

I personally think that if Poppy had any human decency at all, he would pluck out his own eyeballs the way Oedipus did. Short of something like that, he will be getting no pity from me whatsoever.

[LeftishBrit]

43. No; it's presumably because Daddy Bush isn't just 'family'; he's a politician and ex-president in

his own right. And probably encouraged his sons in their political careers. It's not like someone who just happens to be related to a politician and had no choice in the matter.

I do think - and probably disagree with many here on that point - that Daddy Bush wasn't as bad or as dangerous to the world as his son. And I certainly didn't care for him - in fact, I was a one-woman 'Dukakis Fan Club of Great Britain' and was really disappointed that Bush won that election. But still not as bad as W, IMO.

In any case, I have no problem with anyone making fun of politicians, and do so regularly!

[shadowknows69]

45. Um.

Evil?

[MoonRiver]

46. Poppy is totally different from a child.

Most of us think he is a war criminal himself, albeit smarter about it than little jr. Still, as a parent, I can appreciate being devastated by such vile fruit of ones loins. If I had spawned and raised a monster like that I would be crying too.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

47. he is a political figure...so its fine to criticize him. that would be my theory.

also not a child.

[LittleClarkie]

51. He is a public figure. He's not somebody's kid or somebody's wife who isn't running

for anything. Hence, fair game, I reckon. Just guessing.

[Moderator]

54. Locked.

Please don't post broad brush slams on other DU members.