The more things change...

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

of course, the more they stay the same...

Gates will say ANYTHing to get the nod for DOD, even apparently disagreeing with **.

If he really disagrees with DimSon that we are "not winning" in Iraq, he should withdraw.

[walldude]

1. Don't worry he later recanted his disagreement

and "clarified" his position. Lemme see if I can find the thread on it...

here's the story:

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2006/...

[stillcool]

2. He'll be the second Defense Secretary

named Gates...

Secretary of Defense: Thomas S. Gates Jr.
Thomas Gates was secretary of defense under President Eisenhower from December 2, 1959, to January 20, 1961. He graduated from the University of Pennsylvania, where his father later became president, and joined his father's investment firm, Drexel and Company, as an associate. He later became a partner in the company.

Gates would become president and director of Morgan Guaranty Trust upon his retirement from government in 1961. In 1976, President Ford, with whom he had served in the Navy, appointed him U.S. Liaison to China, with the rank of ambassador. Gates retired from the position in 1977 and died in 1983. His legacy lives on in the form of a naval cruiser, the USS Thomas Gates.http://www.americanpresident.org/history/dwighteisenhower/cabinet/defense/thomasgates/h_index.shtml

[seabeyond]

3. there seems to be word that he has talked to the senators

and gave them insight to actually working on something. i am open to see what is happening in washington. things have changed and it isnt even january yet.