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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 11:40 PM
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Poll question: Which will America have first? A non-male president, a non-white president, or
a non-Christian president?

Which do you think is most likely to happen first?
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dubeskin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 11:44 PM
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1. Unfortunately non-white.
I don't see a female president for a while.
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 11:44 PM
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2. Choices seem kinda bland...
after having a rabid monkey in the oval office.
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EdwardM Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 11:55 PM
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3. A Black President, Barack Obama!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 12:05 AM
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5. Eventually. Not in 2008, though.
I share Jimmy Carter's view of it, "He does not yet have the experience or substance."

Two years ago, he was a State Senator.

In time, perhaps.
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 12:04 AM
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4. What? You have a problem with the word FEMALE?
Just asking.

-Cindy in Fort Lauderda;e
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 12:08 AM
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7. It's in the context of "non white male Christian".
I figured I'd keep it consistent for the poll. Non-this, non-that.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 12:37 AM
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9. We might get a transgender President
OK, not likely what he meant but... :)
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 03:31 AM
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14. You mean, you think Man Coulter will become President??
:rofl:
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 12:06 AM
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6. Well we have our first brainless president.
Frist should have done transplant surgery.
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Beacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 12:21 AM
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8. Non white
Hispanic

Before a black president or female.

this does not reflect my 'personal' choices, but what I see as the reality on the ground.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 12:40 AM
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10. Depends if you consider deists Christians
Edited on Thu Dec-07-06 12:41 AM by wuushew
Plenty of sharp cookies in the first years of the republic.
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 12:41 AM
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11. People are gonna hate me for saying this....
but I have a feeling it will be a non-white Republican president.
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Nobody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 07:46 AM
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17. I have to agree with you
This is one of those times when I really want to be proven wrong. But every time I think of a Democratic candidate that fits anything on the poll, I remember 1984.

1984 presidential ticket included a woman for VP. She was Geraldine Ferraro, along with the wonderful Walter Mondale for president. Either one would have done far better than Ronnie the Cowboy. I was 17 that year. I'm proud of my state, which sent 10 electoral votes for Mondale/Ferraro.

We have yet to have ANY non-Anglo-Saxon in the White House as President or as VP. People were making a big deal out of Ferraro being Italian. Oddly enough, they didn't raise a stink about her keeping her own name after marriage, like Hillary Rodham tried to do.

The Dems are unlikely to put forward anyone who is not Anglo-Saxon or male because of the Reagan landslide in 1984. So if we do get a non-Anglo or female, it will be on the Republican ticket. You won't see non-religious or religious non-Christians in the Republican party. The Repubs love to rip the non-religious for being non-religious, they'll never put one on a ticket this visible.

Look at what's happening to my own Representative Keith Ellison. He's black and Muslim and he's getting ripped every damn day because of it. And he won here by a lot. MN 5 is a safe Dem district.

Also look at MN 6 with Michele Bachmann. Yes, she's a Republican and a crackpot at that. But after she slithered past Patty Wetterling with one of the ugliest campaigns ever, what did the newspapers focus on? Her freaking wardrobe! And tons of letters to the ed were written demanding to know who styles the hair of, and who designs the suits of the new male members of MN's delegation.

Other demographics you're unlikely to see on a major party ticket:

Single people: That will create a field day for the Family Values Are Everything crowd.

Married, no kids: We did elect one once, Grover Cleveland. His wife gave birth while he was serving. See Family Values Are Everything.

Homosexuals, Bisexuals, Asexuals: Family Values again. See above. Homosexuals will have the hardest campaign season. The mudslinging will reach new depths of ugly.

Working class or farmer background: No more Abraham Lincoln success stories. Only people with money will be able to afford to sacrifice everything to go on the campaign trail (your job, for instance, because if you lose, it won't be there on Wednesday). It's too bad, because we need the reality check that comes from real people having had real struggles. There's also way too much in real people backgrounds (this also includes middle class) for the mudslingers to find and misinterpret. Look for a nasty campaign.

Introverts: May be good at governing, but they are not outgoing enough to be able to do any campaigning at all. They'll come across as cold and unfriendly. Think about your own teen years. Was the kid everyone said was snobbish really someone who was too shy to be the first one to say hi? We'll never have an introvert in any elected office because of how the campaigns are run.

I look at this list and I fit in almost every category I've added. I'm as unelectable as they come. And the funny thing is, when I was a kid, I wanted to be the second (not the first) female president of the USA. And that was because I thought I was being realistic at the time, thinking someone would beat me to the First Female slot.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 12:44 AM
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12. Either way, I'm sure the person will be Republican.


but then the barrier will be broken and we can move on to voting in the best person to lead our country regardless of sex or race.
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 12:54 AM
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13. If Powell was the Repub nom in 2000, he would've won
Currently, a non-white more likely would win than a female. Men still far outnumber women in holding high-profile positions. (Governorships, very high-ranking military ranks, political offices, etc.) Condisleeza wouldn't win, ever. And Madeline can't run.
As time passes, though, the chances a female should equal to any given non-white.

... I don't think I made a lick of sense...
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 07:00 AM
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15. A woman President. And I think it will be a Republican.
Just my .02
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 07:20 AM
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16. Will they be in charge of a system made by white males?
If so, what's the difference?

I'll go with a woMAN though. No, a feMALE. No, a chick. No, a girl. No, what other word is there?

Like I said, it's a system(including language) made by males who saw the world in a certain way, so it won't matter. We'll still use a standing army, we'll still exploit people from the far edges of the world, we'll still love production and consumption.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 08:00 AM
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18. non-white
class, gender, and religious difference will take longer. It's much easier to overlook the color of someone's skin if the rest of them fits the "standard."
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