They all died in vain. What a terrible thing to say.

[Philosoraptor]

How could anyone be so insensitive to say that all those people in Iraq and all our soldiers died for nothing? How could any decent person utter those words?

How could you possibly suggest that half a million Iraqis died for no real reason? In vain, men, women, babies, grandmothers and grandfathers, half a million died, and they didn't have to.

How could anyone be so cold as to even say those awful words, 'died in vain'? What kind of an inhuman monster could say such a thing?

I've heard it said that no soldier dies in vain. And I've also heard it said that ALL soldiers have died in vain. But it's really just words, and levels of perception.

America has come to the conclusion that this whole war was literally in vain. A war that didn't have to be, a war that was made up so that billionaires could become trillionaires. None of those people had to die by decree. There is no happy conclusion or glorious victory march for this war, there was no lofty purpose to this war, the whole fucking thing was in vain, and history will confirm it.

"My son"? "NO--MY son did not die in vain, I won't hear you say that"!

What a terrible, terrible thing to say.

[orpupilofnature57]

1. Anyone that uses A gods name to rationalize murder, uses that gods

name in vein.

[RC]

2. Died in vain sounds better than the real reason they died.

The criminals that started and controlled this war need to be brought to Justice. The Limbaugh's and Hanneys need to be tried as accessories to the war crimes they publicly supported.

[ThomCat]

6. Agreed.

They died for corrupt purposes. If they thought they were accomplishing anything good, then they did die in vain.

[mwb970]

3. It's sad to hear the parents of the fallen in Iraq.

They usually say that their son or daughter died defending their country. From what?

[liberal N proud]

4. Only the cold hearted people who sent those people to their deaths could use

those words to fight for the continuation of their futile efforts

[lonestarnot]

5. Uuuug. Painful to think about. Enrages me to think about why these

people died and continue to die.

[warrior1]

8. It's not hard

to think that.


bush and his cartel, came up with a plan to try and take control of the Iraq thru un-ethical means and lies which led to many innocent peoples deaths.

I would call this murder.

They were lied to. Has nothing to do with dying in vein.

[lonestarnot]

10. You don't think dying for a lie is a waste of life?

[Hubert Flottz]

7. They are dying now, because of Bush's vanity.

The GOPers admit that the war is lost, so why are they still dying in Iraq?

[lectrobyte]

9. It is a terrible thing to say, but the truth can be painful. Seems like

we were saying the same thing about another war 30 years ago, too.

[Zhade]

11. What's really terrible is that it's true.

This illegal war was based on lies, for greed, and almost nothing good has been accomplished - not even the removal of Hussein, bastard that he is, makes this a cause worth fighting.

They DID die in vain, and the anger for that needs to be directed at the criminals who ordered them to their deaths.

[renate]

12. I'm sorry... I don't know whether you mean that, or whether it's sarcasm

That's the tragedy of the war--that they DID die in vain.

It's an indescribably cruel, harsh thing to actually say to someone who's lost a loved one (I hope you're not one of those people, but of course there are hundreds of thousands of people who are). But the fact that so many people did not have to die is what makes their deaths so especially tragic and this war so unspeakably evil.

[QuestionAll...]

13. that's whats makes open dialogue so difficult and impossible...

on this subject.
It runs so deep, you can't speak about it.

I can see how a parent wants to hang onto to the falsehoods of fighting for freedom and all that sports team talk. Who would really want to think their kids are out there mobstering for Cheney and the dark side?

Deliberately made to be impossible to talk about honestly.

[The Stranger]

14. Yes, they died in vain.

That doesn't mean they should have died in vain. And it doesn't mean that they lived in vain. And it most certainly does not mean they were not wonderful individuals who touched other lives in ways we can never know, who deserved so much more and so much better than what their government gave them.

But make no mistake about it. They died in vain.