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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 09:35 AM
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So who really picked the ISG members???
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2006/0609.dreyfuss.html

YES, IT WAS INSTITGATED BY REP FRANK WOLF
Baker's commission--officially called the Iraq Study Group--was created in March by Congress at the instigation of Rep. Frank Wolf, a Virginia Republican. After his third trip to Iraq last year, Wolf started contacting members of Congress on both sides of the aisle, urging the creation of a high-powered, private task force to take a fresh look at the mess in Iraq. "If you had a very serious illness...and you weren't completely comfortable that everything was going the way you hoped, you'd certainly want to get a second opinion," Wolf told me. At least 30 members of Congress supported the idea, including Rep. Christopher Shays (R-Conn.) and Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del.). According to participants in the task force, a key silent partner with Wolf in putting it together was his Virginia Republican colleague, Sen. John Warner, the chairman of the powerful Senate Armed Services committee.
<snip>

WITH MIXED REACTION
But some people were afraid, above all in the administration. "Reaction was mixed," Wolf told me. "Initially, there was not a lot of support for the idea." Backed by congressional heavyweights, including Warner, Wolf met privately with Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, and others in the administration. His message? "If you're so confident it's going well, why are you so afraid for someone else to take a look at it?" Wolf, as the chairman of the appropriations subcommittee that funds the State Department, had clear leverage with Rice. Not surprisingly, according to an aide to Wolf, the vice president was the most resistant to the idea. But, reluctantly or not, perhaps unwilling to challenge an idea with strong support from House and Senate Republicans, Bush and Cheney signed off on the idea. "Gradually," Wolf told me, "they came to see the merit of it." In June, President Bush himself met briefly with the task force. "Iraq is a complex situation," Bush told them. "And the fact that you are all willing to lend your expertise to help chart the way forward means a lot." <snip>

WITH QUESTIONABLE TIES
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_1481.shtml
In fact, the ISG is another official damage control apparatus, spearheaded by notorious Western political and corporate elites, former military intelligence officers, and “experts” from right-wing and intelligence-connected Western think tanks -- one of which is the US Institute for Peace itself.

What is the US Institute for Peace?

The sponsor of the ISG is the US Institute for Peace (USIP). USIP’s directors and members feature prominently throughout the ISG’s panels.

Despite its insistence that it is an independent and nonpartisan body, the USIP itself is a policy group that functions as an arm of the US government, and as a US intelligence/propaganda apparatus. The USIP members are appointed by the president of the United States, and confirmed and funded by Congress. The rotating membership of the USIP consists primarily of elites, including “retired” Washington politicians and Pentagon officials.

Named in true Orwellian fashion, the US Institute for Peace is a harbor for elite managers of global warfare. Its former members have included the most notorious war criminals in modern history, among them Dick Cheney, Frank Carlucci, Caspar Weinberger, and Stephen Hadley.


BUT I HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO FIND EXACTLY WHO SELECTED THE MEMBERS OF THIS GROUP

ANYONE KNOW?



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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 09:39 AM
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1. Could it be...
SATAN?

How conveeeeeeeenient!

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 09:42 AM
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2. Excellent question....
This all has to do with circumventing Herr Chimp. I have no idea how Baker got involved but I thought that I heard somewhere that Baker basically hand-picked the rest of the members.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 10:36 AM
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7. yes - exactly who picked Baker to begin with?
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 10:52 AM
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8. "Quiet Designation" of Baker
http://cisac.stanford.edu/news/congress_appoints_perry_to_iraq_study_group_20060508/

snip The analogy is far from perfect, but Republicans and Democrats are seeing parallels between the quiet designation last month of former Secretary of State James A. Baker III to head up a Congressionally mandated effort to generate new ideas on Iraq and the role of Acheson, who served under President Harry S. Truman. <snip>


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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 09:44 AM
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3. "US intelligence/propaganda apparatus"
Propaganda is exactly what this whole thing is IMHO. To take the heat off of Bush's war for another year. Look at the cash involved in spending another year in Iraq...it's worth lying for.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 10:35 AM
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6. You are probably right. Follow the money, always. They probably
said, look the money train is approaching the station - but it still has a couple hundred miles to go - "Drink up"
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 10:57 AM
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10. Look at the money involved in another year of blood sucking and
skimming. Hell after 2007 they can always come up with another propaganda piece like this thing(report) yesterday, to make the war last until 2009.

Hundreds of billions on the implements, perks and no bid contracts for the PNAC's war and who knows how much on the stolen Iraqi oil, it's worth producing and directing a little fool fooling dog and pony show, to help W pull it all off! Bush's war was about to fall flat after the election, but their "Report" bought him another year of murdering and plundering in Iraq, just as easy as pie. These guys are in this for the money...ALL of them.
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Timbuk3 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 11:02 PM
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13. Follow the money?
OK

In its heavily anticipated report released on Wednesday, the Iraq Study Group made at least four truly radical proposals.

The report calls for the United States to assist in privatizing Iraq's national oil industry, opening Iraq to private foreign oil and energy companies, providing direct technical assistance for the "drafting" of a new national oil law for Iraq, and assuring that all of Iraq's oil revenues accrue to the central government.


More at: http://alternet.org/module/printversion/45190
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 09:55 AM
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4. They have Robert Perito on Washington Journal....
right now. He said that Wolfe approached him at the USIP, they (I assume he meant Wolf and Perito) chose the chairmen and then the chairman chose the members (with the help of Wolf and Perito perhaps?). Maybe there is a transcript to clear this up.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 10:34 AM
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5. thanks yada.....sorry I missed that. I think the true genesis of this
group may not ever be known - but I find it interesting that they all came to agreement. It reminds me of the republican controlled congress - never any dissension - rubber stampers.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 10:54 AM
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9. Mr. Baker and Mr. Hamilton chose the other members of the group
Mr. Baker and Mr. Hamilton chose the other members of the group, trying to pick respected people who would be prepared to take a fresh look at the situation, they said.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 10:59 AM
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11. Baker & Hamilton.
They rejected each and every person that had been suggested to them. They then picked the group members.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 11:52 AM
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18. Very interesting. Where'd you hear that? Who made the
suggestions that were rejected?

Did Bush 43 pick Baker? I looked for hours yesterday and
could never find an answer to that. All articles merely said Baker was
appointed but never by whom.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 03:12 PM
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12. afternoon kick
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 11:22 PM
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14. Poppy Bush.. (he was probably trying to salvage dim-son's admin)
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 11:25 PM
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15. yep...it's ALWAYS been poppy...
that man has spent more time as "president"(wink-wink) than fdr.
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:28 AM
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16. Dont know who picked them.. but I appreciate the back story on the creation/selection process..
Ms MZr7 ask me about that this evening over dinner... I was going to look into this but low and behold.. once again one of our own already had the story...

Thanks again for the info...

MZr7
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:35 AM
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17. I have no idea either but K&R/nt
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 11:53 AM
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19. the same people who have been covering for what we know as BFEE
since at least the JFK assassination.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 05:38 PM
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20. HYSTERICAL screen name! Bravo! n/t.
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