Pappy and Pals 'disappointed' and 'concerned' with Junior's reaction to the ISG report

[bigtree]

Bush Reaction to Report Worries Father's Aides

By Kenneth T. Walsh 46 minutes ago

Former White House advisers to George H.W. Bush are keenly disappointed and concerned about the current President Bush's initial reaction to the report by the Iraq Study Group.

They consider him rather dismissive of the group's conclusions, issued yesterday, which include the view that current Iraq policy is failing. The group recommends a variety of important changes, such as assigning U.S. troops to play more of an advisory and training role and less of a combat role. The ISG also recommends that the United States withdraw most of its combat brigades by early 2008 and that the administration increase diplomatic efforts, including starting talks with Iran and Syria and energetically working toward an Israeli-Palestinian solution.

"We have a classic case of circling the wagons," says a former adviser to Bush the elder. "If President Bush changes his policy in Iraq in a fundamental way, it undermines the whole premise of his presidency. I just don't believe he will ever do that."

White House advisers say Bush won't react in detail to the ISG report for several weeks, while he assesses it and awaits various internal government reports on the situation from his own advisers. Bush tells aides he doesn't want to "outsource" his role as commander in chief. Some Bush allies say this is a way to buy some time as the president tries to decide how to deal with rising pressure to alter his strategy in Iraq and hopes the critical media focus on the Iraq war will soften.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnews/20061208/ts_usnews/bushreactiontoreportworriesfathersaides&printer=1


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[seabeyond]

1. 6 yrs of bush being dismissive of others opinions. why am i not surprised

and why are they surprised

[johnfunk]

22. All the report needed was a more eye-catching cover...

from American Politics Journal's notorious Photoshop Insurgent

[seabeyond]

28. oh.... that is so funny. the best. i am going to have to send this to

some people

[bigtree]

33. heh

perfect

[Cha]

35. Yeah, pappy spawned him with

that bush in drag so when exactly did he think he was going to change into mr reality?

[Norquist Nemesis]

2. While Bush twiddles his thumbs and lets Karl design political

maneuvers to be carefully orchestrated, we'll be hitting the 3,000 mark right around the first of the year (if not before). :(

[zulchzulu]

3. Maybe it's time for a big hot bucket of Impeachment

This is how Chimp is going to go down. Those within his inner circle are going to start to leave him alone to destroy himself. It's an old story, really...

[pat_k]

32. It has been time for years!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3007934&mesg_id=3008149

[BurtWorm]

4. "hopes that the critical media focus on the war will soften"??!!

What is he doing to make that happen? Praying?

:wtf:

[Cha]

36. They musta loved it when it

was "embedded reporter" time.

[DearAbby]

39. Didn't God advise him on how

to soften the media focus on the war? Come to think of it, God left out a lot, when he talked to *.

[aquart]

5. Well, it was an essentially dishonest and unrealistic document.

So I can't for the life of me see why Georgie has a problem with it.

[Sugar Smack]

6. "I'm the decider", junior squeaked, stamping his little foot.

:eyes:

[Gidney N Cloyd]

7. His policy in Iraq WILL be changed in a fundamental way. Either now or

later. Either by HIM or the NEXT president. If he's so damned concerned with his legacy why wouldn't he think it's better if HE did the changing than to let the next guy mop up after him?

[NI4NI]

17. So he can blame the next president in '08

The next president brings our troops home, Iraq goes deeper into more hell and civil war than it already is, and chucklenuts says "I told you so, it's not my fault".

[Gidney N Cloyd]

25. But the only people by then who will agree with that assessment are

him and maybe a couple dozen pig-headed freepers. He'll have lost everyone from the PNACers to Barney. His only chance to rescue any sort of positive legacy is to own the change.

[madokie]

23. because he is stupid the same reason to go there to begin with

[spanone]

8. Meanwhile American soldiers are dying by the minute.

While our criminal president strokes his sore ego.

[Webster Green]

9. The asshole is screaming to be impeached..

There have been endless threads here about how to get impeachment "on the table", without alienating the murken people.

I can't see that issue lasting much longer. Soon.....everyone will be yelling for impeachment, except for that pesky 27% (dead-ender, chimp licking freeptards.)

[Jacobin]

I think the republicans are going to have to do it to preserve themselves

I can see that unfolding.

What R congresscritter is going to want to run for re-election in 2008, with this quagmire in full blown catastrophe?

If the R's do it, the dems have the best of both worlds and can go along for the ride.

[Vidar]

40. I respect your optimism.

[DemoTex]

10. Fuck them! Fuck Pappy and his wanton, avaricious pals.

They have had years of bailing out this psychopath to have long since learned his true nature. They knew what a fuck-up Bu$h was when they stole the 2000 election for him. Why, in God's name, did they think he would change just because he was in the White House?

Now Pappy and his pals have but one choice: UN-INSTALL THE IDIOT SON.

[Bridget Burke]

14. I read that James Baker II is concerned about his "legacy"....

Will he mainly be remembered for the Stealing of Florida's Electoral Votes? Or as a "Statesman." You made your bed, Jimmy. He's been busy.

Baker's half-dozen committees
By RICK CASEY
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

Houston's own James Baker and his bipartisan band today release their plan for ending the killing in Iraq. The group was appointed by Congress on March 15, nearly nine months ago.

A week from Tuesday is another day the world has been awaiting.

Then the very same James Baker and another merry band will issue a plan to end the killing at BP, the petroleum giant at whose Texas City plant 15 workers were killed by an explosion in March 2005. At least 170 more were injured.

Smaller numbers have since been dying at other BP plants in what seem to be corporate aftershocks, the most recent being last month.

www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/casey/4382010.html

Yes, Baker Botts has reprsented BP....

[shain from kane]

24. Have you seen the movie, "Winter Kills"?

Spoiler Alert *** Spoiler Alert ***

A wealthy father, involved in the oil business, has his son, who happens to be President of the United States, assassinated because the son departs from his father's plans.

[bdamomma]

38. very interesting story line.

[no_hypocrisy]

11. Still boils down to * being unable to admit he was wrong.

Nothing more complicated than that fact.

[Solly Mack]

12. Remember how Bush said he was never about "stay the course"?

Not saying he will - but Bush is not above an out right lie

He also said that "they were constantly adjusting their strategy"

So Bush could easily come out with how this was the direction they were always going in...

again, he's not afraid to tell a bold lie and declare it the way it's always been ...even in the face of evidence to the contrary.

I don't know what his final move will be...other than knowing it will be more lies

[mtnester]

13. Sniff....Sniff...do I smell the Insanity Defense being orchestrated?

Maybe...maybe.

[asjr]

16. I do not think he is insane--just meaner than

a snake. He is an arrogant spoiled little boy as well as an SOB (son of Barbara). If Poppy is truly worried he needs to gather his old buddies and physically remove him from office. The Republicans will not do a darn thing.

[Frustratedlady]

15. doesn't want to "outsource" his role as commander in chief

Well, gee willikers, George. Haven't you heard about all those corporate friends of yours outsourcing OUR jobs? Get with it. If you want to "feel our pain" then you'll just have to suck up and take your medicine like everybody else. Didn't Daddy tell you you can't buck those guys behind the curtain? The ones pulling the strings?

Daddy has drawn the line in the sand. You'd better hump-to if you want his acceptance...oh, and let us not forget a "mention in his Will."

[sweetheart]

18. Hitler from bunker says moscow is is nearly taken

Now the soldiers will be sold out to political expediency,
when the politicians ask them to do the impossible to defend
what is and always was, dishonourable behaviour.

The whole services from president to corps, should be embarassed
and ashamed at how they have failed to protect the country, and
have, by direct result of their acts, exacerbated terrorism and
hatred of American people and interests.

Hitler clearly knows a lot in his little bunker under the white
house, shouting in to tubes to damn the torpedos, for general
gordon to re-take khartoum, for macaurthur to turn the yalu river
banks in to glass and his corporations to poision his underclass
for a convenient disposal.

Hitler knows that berlin is under attack and demands that all
civilians defend him or risk being shot for treason. Hitler
demands, bush says, blair talks, cheney drools, is there
no end to these deformed dissonants.

[brook]

19. "..he doesn't want to 'outsource' his role

as commander in chief".

Arrogant incompetent little foot-stamper. The media focus isn't going to "soften", MonkeyBoy. The heat in the kitchen is about to rev up and scald your butt.

[kenny blankenship]

20. I'd love to hear that advisor expand on that "whole premise of his (W's) Presidency"

Obviously Bush was not elected to invade Iraq (the voting public didn't know he would), but "the premise" the advisor speaks of clearly has to do with military aggression. Apparently that premise was put out there in some form--as a plan or an attitude--during the 2000 and 2004 campaigns. Now in 2006 almost everyone seems to be in agreement that the foremost fruit of that premise, Iraq, has gone sour. At some point our country has to have an open and explicit conversation about this "premise" and its inappropriateness in the post-WWII world. Bush took our country and the world back to the 19th century, and also violated concepts of international law of even longer standing. If this is not to be continued whenever the mood strikes a US President--or a Chinese Premier--we must formally repudiate what Bush has done in the Iraq War and repudiate "the whole premise" as a premise, not just reject it as a failed adventure that didn't pan out.

[NightOwwl]

21. Well duh...what did they expect.

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."

What we have here people, is nothing less than a dictatorship.

[Junkdrawer]

26. I don't suppose anyone here suspects Junior's response is scripted...

to enhance the odds that the ISG will be uncritically "forced down Bush's throat."?

I gives Big Oil pretty much what they want...

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-juhasz8dec08,0,4717508.story?coll=la-opinion-center

[Ganja Ninja]

27. Bush can kill and steal all he wants until he starts messing up ...

poppy's thing. If he doesn't get his act together real soon his own father may start pulling strings in order to have him impeached.

[opihimoimoi]

29. Only thing missing is them ball bearings......

[riderinthestorm]

30. The ISG doesn't think we have several weeks to wait around

Everything I got out of that report was that we are dealing with very short timetables before the civil war is so extensive there will be nothing anyone can do.

I can't even begin to understand how any of these "leaders" can go home and have a "restful" break with their families, just sitting and waiting around while Bu$h dithers for "several" more weeks, while another hundred or so US soldiers are killed, maimed and traumatized. Not to mention the Iraqis who are getting slowly crushed in the crucible of a rapidly escalating civil war.

The pain is almost unbearable for me - clearly for others not so much, especially the psychopath in chief.

[Roland99]

31. "as the President tries to decide". I thought he was The Decider???

What happened to The Decider?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9wJqvmPfQc

[Cha]

34. That kind of thinking and a

deep shithole will get you exactly nowhere.

[Raine]

37. They wanted chimp in

in the worst way and that's what they got...the worst. Becareful what you wish for.