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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 12:44 PM
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At WorldNut Daily, Freedom of Religion means Freedom ONLY to be Christian
Edited on Sat Dec-09-06 01:18 PM by IanDB1
Worldnutdaily Hypocrisy on Grand Display

Category: Church and State
Posted on: December 9, 2006 9:31 AM, by Ed Brayton

You've gotta see this article at the Worldnutdaily about the pagan flyer being distributed at a school in Virginia. They're outraged - outraged! - that the school would allow such indoctrination:

A public-school handout urging young children in Virginia to attend a "Pagan ritual" tomorrow to "celebrate Yule" is sparking objections from concerned parents.

"Amazing - government schools ban orthodox Christianity, but allow an openly pagan organization to proselytize six-year-olds!" one observer who asked for anonymity told WND.


Lie #1: This is not a "public school handout", it's a handout put together by a local UU church. It's distributed by the public school. Why? Because the Christian legal group Liberty Counsel threatened to sue the school if they didn't allow religious groups to put flyers advertising their events into the school's flyer distribution system. Indeed, Christian legal groups have pushed for such access all over the country in similar cases, and won court victories requiring schools to do so.

But boy, as soon as they find out that Christian groups aren't the only ones who can use such a system, all hell breaks loose. Which points out, I think, the central deceit at the core of their "religious freedom" arguments in favor of such policies: they don't really mean it. They don't really want religious freedom. Indeed, the same people who were all for a Baptist church being able to distribute flyers that way now want the school to ban religious flyer distribution. What they want is exclusive access, not religious freedom.

Punchline: according to their poll, less than 2% of Worldnutdaily readers say that the school can't discriminate among religious beliefs in deciding what to allow and what not to allow. They indeed want exclusive access for Christianity only.



More:
http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2006/12/worldnutdaily_hypocrisy_on_gra.php

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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 12:55 PM
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1. symptom of the fallacy that
their religion is the only correct one.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 12:59 PM
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2. Thanks for this information
I think this points up their true intent. Hope the Yule celebration is well attended.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 12:59 PM
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3. Celebrate YUL!
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 01:02 PM
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4. lol
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 01:03 PM
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5. This is the consistant reaction
When they first started pusing for faith based charity initiatives as soon as the nonChristian charities started showing up for money there was a massive backlash. Big names pulled out from the religious right until it was determined that only mainstream religions could feed at the trough.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 01:03 PM
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6. funny how after you weed out the lies, the RW really has nothing to stand on.
This applies to pretty much every one of their beliefs.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 01:05 PM
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7. Here's the offending flier
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 01:30 PM
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10. Ha Ha! Yay C'ville!!!!!! n/t
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 01:37 PM
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11. Why are they celebrating Yule on DEC 9???
:shrug:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 03:05 PM
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12. I imagine its a demonstration of a Yule celebration
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 01:13 PM
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8. And this is how we should handle every lawsuit to include Christianity
instead of fighting it (and having it spun to look like we're trying to ban Christianity in the US)- we should work with various religious groups to be INCLUDED in these lawsuits. They want the 10 commandments posted, have the Muslim groups join the lawsuit and ask that their similar rules get posted too.

Lawsuit for a particular Christian song to be sung at the school play? Get a Jewish group to join the lawsuit, get a Pagan group to join in.

They'll go apeshit, because they can't agree to let the Muslims into the schools, or the Druids to pray at the football game. (Personally I'm still stuck on the Roman Gods/Goddesses - but wearing a sign in public that Zeus is coming back soon and you better repent would surely get me a str8 jacket and rubber room)

Point out to everyone that they aren't asking for religion to be protected - they're asking for only their religion to be endorsed at the expense of everyone else's. Show them as the laughable hypocrites that they are.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 01:22 PM
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9. I'm offering a $200 Satanic Scholarship out of my own pocket
It will be awarded to the first Valedictorian to offer up a Satanic prayer as part of their Public High School Commencement address. It has to be a school where Christian prayers have been made in the past, and it has to be "caught on tape."



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prole_for_peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 10:41 AM
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13. i would pay to watch that.
especially if there were shots of the audience as they realized what what happening.

:rofl:
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 10:46 AM
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14. These people scare me, because they don't see their own hypocrisy.
I think they truly want the U.S. to be a theocracy and would insist that it was Constitutional.
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Emilia Liz Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:19 PM
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15. Double standard?
I truly think there's a double standard on the part of Christian fundamentalists who complain that they're not allowed to proselytize but get upset when other (especially non-Christian) faiths let their voices be heard.

In my opinion, anyone should be allowed to advocate any religion (or preach atheism, if they want) as long as it's on their own time and money.
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