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lynch03 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:07 PM
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The right wing answer to the daily show to air on fox? (it's bad, it's really bad)
Edited on Sat Dec-09-06 04:13 PM by lynch03
edit - I'm hearing this does not have not have to do with the one that is going to air on fox

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117954244.html?cs=1&s=h&p=0

Umm, I'm not sure what I just watched, but uh, I really can't articulate how completely awful it is. I guess it's rumored that this abomination is going to air on fox? Be forewarned, what you are about to watch pushes the limits of bad humor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPfhwIpCtUk&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjZaYCjsRBk&mode=related&search=

You may notice positive comments, but that's mostly because they're moderating what comments they allow. Here's a video response

Here's a video response

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojVXpJf7LKE&mode=related&search=


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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:10 PM
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1. they just can't do funny. n/t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:11 PM
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2. The fake news channel creating a fake news show, isn't that a double negative?
Maybe they will actually have some truth in the news...LOL
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:12 PM
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3. Error 404 - teh funnay not found
Can I have that two minutes of my life back? (That's all I could handle)
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:12 PM
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4. I think that's just a bunch of amateurs — Fox's show would have better
production values than that crap.
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lynch03 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:13 PM
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5. Here's info on fox's show
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:15 PM
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6. So it's obviously not the clips referred to in the post. NT
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 06:43 PM
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24. Oh, this sounds promising...
From the article: "The way I look at it, almost every comedy show or satire show I see uses the same talking points against George W. Bush and Dick Cheney," Surnow said. "The other side hasn't been skewered in a fair and balanced way."

They are going to skewer the left in a "fair and balanced way?"
Bwahahahaha! I can hardly wait! This is going to be hysterical, only not in the way they are hoping. :rofl:
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uberllama42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:19 PM
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7. Jett Loe's response pretty much says it all
There are plenty of funny things to say about Democrats; even some mean-spirited jokes can be genuinely humorous if the delivery is right. Those videos are just abysmal, plain and simple.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:20 PM
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8. republicans can be funny
I know a lot of funny, witty people who just happen to be republicans. These people aren't them.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 05:19 PM
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18. Funny Republicans (at least, SOME people think they're funny)
Dennis Miller

Larry The Cable Guy

Jeff Foxworthy
http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Jeff_Foxworthy.php

Cedric The Entertainer

Kelsey Grammer

Michael Richards

Mel Gibson

Jay Leno

Drew Carey
http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Drew_Carey.php

And on the border-line:

Kevin Nealon splits Dem vs Repuke 50/50
http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Kevin_Nealon.php

Joan Rivers: 44% Repuke
http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Joan_Rivers.php


Did I miss anyone?

I mean, if you gave me those people listed above, I could put together a damn funny "Conservative Comedy" show, so long as you let me fire Dennis Miller and replace him with Sinbad.
http://www.usaweekend.com/97_issues/970720/970720talk_dennis_miller.html

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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 06:54 PM
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25. I like Kevin Nealon on "Weeds" and Kelsey Grammer
as Sideshow Bob on "The Simpsons". But even the conservatives have to agree, most really funny people aren't conservatives. There isn't anyone on your list who compares with Steve Martin, Will Ferrell, Robin Williams, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Harry Shearer, Christopher Guest, Catherine O'Hara, or Ellen DeGeneres
And compare the witty writing of Maureen Dowd or Frank Rich with Ann Coulter's clumsily written fifth grade taunts.
In fact, what I expect from the Faux comedy show is more Coulter/Rush hate speech. Calling Nancy Pelosi Bela Lugosi. Calling Kerry "Skerry", etc. Doesn't really compare well with Stewart or Colbert, does it? But, hey, that's what the freeper crowd seems to like: funny names. Sounds like a boring show.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 07:28 PM
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27. Dennis Miler is funny, but he's no Sinbad! n/t
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 01:12 AM
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31. Mike Nelson.
Christianist and comedic genius extraordinaire.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:24 PM
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9. skanks in training
ugh. Let's show the entire world how ugly and stupid our young women are.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:27 PM
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10. 30 seconds was enough for me. Did it get better?
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:32 PM
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11. No, n/t
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poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:34 PM
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12. I hope that gets made into a great big show with lots of advertising. I hope
every repug and Dem watch it. It shows a difference between the two that is crucial and guaranteed to double the number of registered Dems before '08.
It would be even better than Frist or Santorum winning the repug primary.

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:34 PM
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13. It was too painful to watch. They are so ugly, and so awkward.
Couldn't make it past several minutes of the first youtube link.

I can't imagine what they are thinking. Doesn't seem the people themselves could sit through it. Their desperation has done them in. There's no lightness, no intelligence, no wisdom involved anywhere near this catastrophe. Very forced, rigid, harsh, heavy-handed. Nazi-like.

Just horrible. Leaves you perplexed.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 06:30 PM
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22. They don't understand satire.
Edited on Sat Dec-09-06 06:32 PM by Tansy_Gold
Satire is truth turned on itself in such a way that it shows the absurdity of reality, without denying the reality of that absurdity.

There's nothing absurd about Bill O'Reilly "not belonging" on Oprah. It's not even true -- I can see bill-O going on Oprah, the same way he goes on Letterman. I mean, why not? (Okay, I don't watch Oprah, but she's not that, um, blatantly Dem, is she? :shrug:) But even so, there's nothing absurd about it.

I don't think people that far on the right even have a sense of the absurd. I mean, good goddess, they LIVE in the sense of the absurd and don't recognize it! "I'm adamantly pro-life except when it comes to blowing up Iraqi babies, frying convicted rapists in Texas whose public defenders slept through their trials and didn't check the DNA records, and letting poor black people in sinful southern cities drown -- and when my daughter really needs an abortion." We see that as absurdity; they see it as. . .. normal.

Satire also has to have a sense of hope lying underneath it, a hope that someone will wake up to the absurdity and change it. I don't think wingnuts have any sense of hope; they just want us all to die and themselves to be raptured.

Ugh, what an ugly way to live. No, what an absurd way to live: waiting to die.

Tansy Gold


(edit to fix typo, sheesh!)
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:49 PM
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14. what is it?
What is it? what is it with us americans, that trivializes politics and war like it's some kind of sporting event? Is the the bullshit wars on poverty, on drugs, on education? Our science produces the findings of the highest bidder, our medicine that is nothing more than the course of statistical probablities? I could go on and on but come on it's just getting embarrasing.
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:58 PM
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15. Hahahahaha!!!!! Racism is SOOOOOOOO funny!!!!
Maybe on a future show they can have a real lynching. Wouldn't that be great? :sarcasm:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 05:01 PM
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16. Let me guess. It's Rich Lowry and Jonah Goldberg in blackface. nt
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 07:58 PM
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29. No, that would at least show some promise
The abomination in the clips we were directed to...imagine the worst Cable Access television show it would be possible to produce. Even the Production sucked. The color balance kept going in and out, the audio kept jumping around in volume, the set sucked (you'd think there'd at least be a logo on the wall or something), costuming was bad, hair and makeup were awful, the three hosts were unwatchable in all respects...

This, we are led to believe, is going to be shown on a national network.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 05:02 PM
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17. It's like they are making fun of themselves, this is more like Colbert but not funny
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 05:27 PM
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19. Are you sure that's the right YouTube link, and not a satire?
I haven't seen such maturity and skill in a comedy show since they canceled The Uncle Phil Show.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 05:28 PM
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20. I love this comment on YouTube
jimpharo (1 week ago)
Is this like a reverse-Borat for Ukrainian television? I'm trying to figure out why any one would ever do TWO of these things.
Is it a psych experiment? Some kind of al-Quada training video?



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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 05:38 PM
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21. I watched a bit of episode 2. Is this a joke? Saying it's supposed to
be funny when it isn't? I don't get it.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 06:37 PM
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23. But, conservatives aren't funny !
I guess they didn't get the memo :shrug:

Methinks, The Daily Show, Colbert and Letterman will have a new target, go get'em boys :toast:
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 07:32 PM
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28. It's not that conservatives aren't funny
Its that humor doesn't work from a conservative angle. Humor works better when it is from the perpective of the common person speaking to power. The little upstart. Think Charlie Chaplin as the Little Tramp. Now imagine Charlie dressed as a rich tycoon making fun of workers instead. It doesn't work.

Liberal/Progressives own the humor angle. Conservatives don't get that they are not funny.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:15 AM
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34. Excellent analogy.
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Printer70 Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 07:13 PM
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26. Wow
I wonder what it is about being a conservative that makes it so hard for them to tell jokes, make satire, or do comedic acting. It's as if their lack of subtelty in political matters and worldview translates to comedy; and there subtelty is everything. The show was like hitting someone over the head with a shovel with the punchline (ie: Democrats won because studies show testosterone went down).
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 10:22 PM
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30. It was every bit as bad as I expected it to be
Edited on Sat Dec-09-06 10:30 PM by EstimatedProphet
I couldn't watch more than 2 minutes. Subtle as a club.

Several replies here have talked about whether cons can do humor, and use this idea to argue they can't. I think I have to agree with them. I think that cons must not understand humor, because this comes off as just vindictive name-calling. Here's what I see the contrast as:

Watch The Daily Show, and you'll see Jon Stewart poking fun at politics. But the reason it works, is that what he does is point out the absurdity and the hypocrisy going on. He does it wherever he sees it too - not just conservatives, because when liberals are behaving badly he holds them to the fire too, and I've seen him do so several times. The fact that this administration is so often shown in a negative light is because they are so hypocritical. There's just more material to work with there. Now, contrast "The America Show" (nice how they claim ownership of America) and all it is is snide comments and name-calling. It comes across the same way as the cheerleaders in high school making nasty remarks about the wannabes when their backs are turned, and it's about the same level of maturity and grace.

See, what they don't get is that Jon Stewart doesn't do politics, he makes fun of politics as comedy. they use 'comedy' (at least they think that's what they're doing) to do politics. It comes off as heavy-handed preaching instead.
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Beacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 01:30 AM
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32. I have a suggestion
Maybe these harpies should dress up like the clueless heiress in 30s era Marx Bros. movies and at least claim a 'retro' cred for their *koff* humor.

Or go for the Marie Antoinette unintentional tEh Funny
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Ferretherder Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:11 AM
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33. If this isn't some lame attempt at satirizing the REAL show...
...that is to appear on the fux network, then there is no way for me to accept that there are people IGNORANT enough to truly believe this anti-intellectual, brain-damaging abomination is even REMOTELY humorous.

I mean, REALLY, now. This can't be the REAL thing, huh.

Right?

Right?
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