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Lasthorseman Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:43 PM
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I just received the news
America is officially dead. The news is that S 1873 and or the companion bill HR 5533 have passed the Senate. This means the creation of BARDA or Biodefense Advanced Research and Development Agency will be created to "manage" all things drug.
What does this really mean for the little guy?

First off you will be ordered to line up for mandatory vaccination.
Two. Should this vaccination cause you to become a vegetable you and your family have absolutely zero legal recourse.
Three. "News" of these newly created vegetables will be "managed" in the interest of national security by a super secret agency that answers to no one.
Sound like a good post 911 deal for this post 911 world and the holy crusade of endless global war?
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:54 PM
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1. Blechhhh
First thought. . .people won't stand for this.

Second thought. . .they're far too incompetant to enforce this.

Yup I'm still a deluded optimist.
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:58 PM
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2. here come the genetically tagged bio-weapons... eugenics wins... n/t
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:59 PM
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3. They can stick themselves silly
but they're not vaccing me against my will. What disasters they have brought, the adults will undo. So, who signed that unholy mess?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 05:08 PM
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4. A version of S1873 passed the House in SEP....you're thinking S 3678,
which includes the provisions of the cited bill. With the changes, it still has to go back to the House in the new form, near as I can tell...

Regardless, it's defining yet another area of life (health and medicine) as under the purview of the Terra Czars:

http://www.kaisernetwork.org/daily_reports/rep_index.cfm?DR_ID=41493

Capitol Hill Watch | Senate Approves Legislation To Reauthorize Bioterrorism Preparedness Law
< Dec 06, 2006 >
The Senate on Tuesday passed legislation (S 3678) that would reauthorize a law designed to bolster vaccine production and prepare for other biological threats, CQ Today reports (Berger/Wayne, CQ Today 11/5). The bill, sponsored by Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.), would reauthorize through 2011 a law related to bioterrorism and disease outbreak preparedness. The legislation would:

Make HHS the lead agency in public health and medical response to bioterrorist attacks and disease outbreaks;


Make the National Disaster Medical System, currently part of the Department of Homeland Security, part of HHS;


Require the HHS secretary to prepare and implement a national preparedness and response strategy and to begin to submit the strategy to Congress in 2009, followed by revisions every four years; and


Award $1 billion in federal grants annually to states to establish public health and medical preparedness strategies.
Included in the measure is a separate bill (S 1873), a version of which the House passed by voice vote on Sept. 26, that would establish the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority. BARDA would coordinate federal efforts to produce countermeasures against biological weapons and illnesses such as pandemic flu (Kaiser Daily Health Policy Report, 11/13). A spokesperson for Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) said last week that the specifics of the BARDA component of the legislation had been discussed with House leaders in hope that the House could quickly pass the legislation this week. However, it is "not clear when or whether the House will take it up," CQ Today reports. A former congressional aide familiar with the legislation said, "The longer Congress waits, the less interested industry will be" (Berger/Wayne, CQ Today, 12/5).


I can't see where the House has passed this yet... http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=newsOne&storyID=2006-12-06T004538Z_01_N05348965_RTRUKOC_0_US-USA-BIOTERRORISM.xml&WTmodLoc=Home-C2-TopNews-newsOne-6
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Lasthorseman Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 05:35 PM
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8. This is my MSM link
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1149192037243&path=!localnews&s=1037645509099

From business school "medical preparedness" means the drawing up of quarrantine policies, focus group study on what exactly to say to the National Guard troops to enable them to mentally justify rounding up their own citizens and other Orwellian themes.

I suspect they are already funneling in big money on this as the stainless steel fabricators are very busy(medical production equipment). Be scared, very scared.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 05:40 PM
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10. So Ted Kennedy is co-sponsor — do you think he'd create something
that would mandate mass immunization?
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Lasthorseman Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 08:00 PM
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14. When people get older
the memory is the first to go. On the surface it sounds like they are "protecting" the citizens by taking every precaution. There is a very scary video of a focus group discussing the plans for quarrantines and stuff, very Machiavellian stuff.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 09:53 PM
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18. So now you're saying Ted Kennedy doesn't know what he's doing.
Edited on Sat Dec-09-06 09:54 PM by NYCGirl
And you, of course, have figured it all out.

:eyes:

BTW, here's a little present for you.
:tinfoilhat:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 06:04 PM
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12. It ain't done yet--from your cite:
The House passed a similar bill earlier this year. It is unlikely that the differences between the two bills will be ironed out in a conference committee by Friday, Congress' target date for adjournment.

The House could, however, decide to take up the bill as a new, stand-alone bill, which means that Burr's proposal could be sent straight to the president. If the House doesn't do that, the bill would be dead for this year, he said.

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Lasthorseman Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 08:01 PM
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15. It can't
be dead enough soon enough.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 05:20 PM
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5. I'm afraid to get the flu shots, as it is. I don't trust them and haven't
for decades now. BTW, I don't get the flu.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 05:28 PM
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7. Same here, I've never had a flu shot and I don't get the flu. I can't remember
the last time I even had a cold. They can stick their vaccinations! I refuse them!
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Lasthorseman Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 05:36 PM
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9. One week
after my 78 year old mother got her shot she went to the hospital. They did an entire cardiac work up on her and released her the next day. Took five years off my life too.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 05:54 PM
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11. I don't get the flu shots either and I'm in an age group that they
recommend to take them. They would have a really hard time forcing me to accept a vaccination that I didn't want.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 06:20 PM
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13. I take flu shots every year
Edited on Sat Dec-09-06 06:21 PM by GoneOffShore
But then when we're busy we see upwards of 200 people a day, some of them kids.

There's no way that I'm going to pass up any protection out there. And yes, I use hand sanitizer when I have to see that many people.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 05:24 PM
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6. I'm with valerief.
They'll have to hog-tie me to get me to take any vaccinations I don't want to take.

Remember swine flu?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 08:05 PM
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16. Why does the name of this BARDA...
Edited on Sat Dec-09-06 08:07 PM by TwoSparkles
...sound so similar to DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Project?

I know it's a silly question, but DARPA is known for it's qwirky, bleeding-edge research. They were
researching "unconventional countermeasures" in the event of a bioweapons attack--back in the mid-90's.
It's kind of a spooky organization. I'm not saying that they don't do good work. They do.

Call me nutty...but I would think that the government would avoid creating a public health agency that
would be remotely associated with or confused with DARPA.

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Lasthorseman Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 08:20 PM
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17. BARDA
is even spookier as it reports to no one, will be accountable to no one and will operate in total secrecy in the interest of "national" (see www.spp.gov)"security". The centralization is made complete with ties to the Homeboy Security department. It is Hitler's enabling act in a medical sense.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:24 PM
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19. Oh, it's like the presidency. Completely autonomous. nt
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