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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 06:09 AM
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Will bush become an object of pity in his decline, or of revulsion?
Edited on Sun Dec-10-06 06:13 AM by Philosoraptor
Aw wook at poor widdle georgey, no one will pway wiff him. He threw a tantrum and broke the neighbor's window and killed his cat but don't you just feel sorry for him in his declining years?

The son of a bitch will get zero minus zero point zero pity from me.

I do remember hearing the same thing said about poor ol' dejected Dick Nixon, gee, ain't he pitiful, don't ya' just feel a wee bit sorry for the poor sucker? I didn't.

The only ones who will dredge up any pity for him are his pitiful supporters, the hard core thirty per centers, who will till their dying days swear up and down that bush was the greatest and most misunderstood leaders in our nation's history. They will feel real sorry for him, you watch, and for themselves too.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 06:16 AM
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1. Both ,and he doesn't deserve pity.He worries about his historical image..
Edited on Sun Dec-10-06 06:17 AM by orpupilofnature57
he should, he will go down in history as the most Misanthrope man to ever lead our country and future generations will be able to see how apathy is more harmful than even bombs.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 06:18 AM
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2. Compared to Dubya
Nixon was a wonderful guy.

Sad commentary, isn't it?
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 08:05 AM
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14. I actually pitied Nixon, and still do. B* doesn't deserve it
and I don't believe that history will judge him kindly.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 06:23 AM
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3. If he weren't such a pompous jerk there might be room for pity.
Abject failure does not usually invoke pity when it is accompanied by such hubris.
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 07:13 AM
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7. my view, too...
While I agree with Cassie's post below that Americans are quick to forgive when the tears start flowing, that first requires that the person doing the apologizing has some credibility left over. If Bush had said earlier, "I failed to protect America on 9/11 because I didn't appreciate how grave the threat was. I honestly believed that Saddam Hussein had stockpiles of WMDs and was intent on blowing up American cities with the help of Al Qaeda. I failed to react at all to Katrina. (The list goes on....)" Americans would've most likely fallen into the "poh wittle Georgey" like Philosoraptor said. "He was just in over his head. He only wanted to help protect the US."

But since he still refuses to acknowledge just what a disaster Iraq is ("It's bad in Iraq. That help?"), only the true Bush cult members will buy any tear-filled confession that he had failed as a president. He's got absolutely no credibility with now 70% of the country, and there's no way to regain that. Even he were to completely admit he was wrong and submit to whatever recommendations the Dems gave, that 70% would see it merely as trying to salvage his "legacy," and not proof that he actually realizes it's all his fault.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 04:50 AM
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32. And there's his lack of compassion for others
We are less likely to feel compassion toward others when they have exhibited a lack of the sentiment toward others. The following example is from a Tucker Carlson article in which he recalls a 1999 discussion with Junior, who was governor of Texas at the time:

From: "Devil May Care" by Tucker Carlson, Talk Magazine, September 1999, p. 106

"Bush's brand of forthright tough-guy populism can be appealing, and it has played well in Texas. Yet occasionally there are flashes of meanness visible beneath it.

While driving back from the speech later that day, Bush mentions Karla Faye Tucker, a double murderer who was executed in Texas last year. In the weeks before the execution, Bush says, Bianca Jagger and a number of other protesters came to Austin to demand clemency for Tucker. 'Did you meet with any of them?' I ask.

Bush whips around and stares at me. 'No, I didn't meet with any of them,' he snaps, as though I've just asked the dumbest, most offensive question ever posed. 'I didn't meet with Larry King either when he came down for it. I watched his interview with , though. He asked her real difficult questions, like 'What would you say to Governor Bush?' 'What was her answer?' I wonder.

'Please,' Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, 'don't kill me.'

I must look shocked -- ridiculing the pleas of a condemned prisoner who has since been executed seems odd and cruel, even for someone as militantly anticrime as Bush -- because he immediately stops smirking.

'It's tough stuff,' Bush says, suddenly somber, 'but my job is to enforce the law.' As it turns out, the Larry King-Karla Faye Tucker exchange Bush recounted never took place, at least not on television. During her interview with King, however, Tucker did imply that Bush was succumbing to election-year pressure from pro-death penalty voters. Apparently Bush never forgot it. He has a long memory for slights."


Karla Tucker did not ask to be spared at any point during the Larry King interview.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 09:01 AM
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17. If he weren't such an arrogant condescending pompous jerk....but he is and he
won't change, ever. No pity here. None!
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 06:39 AM
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4. Once he starts crying and saying he is sorry, Americans will love him.
That is how it usually works,
we love the underdog.
Especially if there are tears.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 06:58 AM
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5. I saw the garbage people threw in front of Trickie Dicks house in
San Clemente ,I for one suggest we haunt Shrub as well ,most of all so he can't f-ck things up from behind the scenes ,like Poppy.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 07:30 AM
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9. Oh I hope you are right...... I wonder if any of it would sink it to shrub?
He is in such denial.
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focusfan Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 11:50 AM
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23. i think Americans would be stupid to forgive Bush
he can cry until he is blue in the face.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 09:28 PM
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30. I think the tide has turned this weekend. Tears will not work.
No one was impressed with Poppy's boo hooing.
Everyone knew he cried for himself and worthless kids.
Not for America. Pathetic performance.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 08:42 AM
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34. This weekend seemed different to me too.
There has always been a background level of impeachment and "get rid of him" talk on this and other boards, but in the last few days the trickle has grown to a torrent. Thread after thread makes the obvious point that America and the world simply cannot withstand two more years of attacks by this sick-puppy enemy of the state and his cohorts in crime.

It's time for them to go.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 08:52 AM
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36. Yes there was a major shift, the press talking about mental illness
and bush being so stubborn and wrong....
At the very least we have a stupid stubborn president,
at the worst he is mentally ill....

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:28 PM
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28. Bush will NEVER, EVER do either. That is a bet you can risk your life on.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 09:29 PM
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31. I am not ruling out anything. When bush goes on melt down it is not
going to be pretty and he could do just about anything.
He could end up sobbing in a fetal position in the oval office.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 06:58 AM
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6. Bush the "Irrelevanter"
We've heard him say he's the "decider" and in moments of being a pissy-pants he's also reminded us he's also the "commander in chief"

Heading into 4 years of the Iraq war, he's still trying to justify the war.

When a person has to repeatedly remind us who is in charge and why we entered into a war, it indicates a problem.

It means we are do not accept it. We do not accept bush as the decider nor as the commander in chief, nor do we accept whatever premise is being used this week to justify the Iraq war.

Bush is the Irrelevanter.

We have Governors taking control of issues such as immigration and minimum wage increases - issues which should be dealt with at the federal level, but are not. In many instances, the Governors have given up attempts to engage the bushies.

A few months ago I saw Al Gore giving a speech about global warming. He said the time for talking to the bushies was over and it was futile to continue efforts to engage the bushies. The bushies do not listen, and we the people must deal with the issues.

On another C-SPAN show, a different speaker hawking a book, said (paraphrased) "forget the president and trying to engage him on the economic issues..."

Bush can strut around and proclaim his 'decidership' - but he's become irrelevant.

Unfortunately, we still have the same problems - and while some issues are being dealt with at the local/state levels, there are still issues which have to be attended to at the mis-administration level.

We can continue to "stay the course" (reluctantly) for another two years with bush or we can press our senators/representatives to get rid of him. As irrelevant as bush has become, he's still a danger to us all.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 07:15 AM
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8. Pity? After causing that many casualties?
This is the most arrogant, incompetent, irresponsible, impeachable fucktard to ever get near the levers of US power and all he knows is how to abuse it without remorse.

Pity ptooey.
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 07:35 AM
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10. No pity..... I will always be amazed this sociopath got as far as he
Edited on Sun Dec-10-06 07:35 AM by Alamom
did and at this moment I have unidentifiable feelings about those people who voted for him, not once, but twice. Also, those who were involved with the stealing of 2 Presidential Elections in the United States.

I have hope and believe our new Senate and House will start to undo some of the damage and know deep down, our next President truly needs to be a Miracle Worker*.



* not in a religious context, but in the context of "There is an incredible amount of work to be done and reparations to be made for the USA to even resemble it's former self in the eyes of our countrymen and the world".



Mr.Bush, YOU have done something that would be almost impossible for a (hostile) nation to do or any enemy for that matter....

You have "almost" destroyed AMERICA from within. This will be your legacy.






edgr



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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 07:56 AM
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11. Bush did something good no other could have. Because of him the Dems are in the House and Senate
Edited on Sun Dec-10-06 07:56 AM by opihimoimoi
Because of him, The GOP are on the FLOOR...gasping for air/credibility/respect/

Bush has caused the collapse of the GOP....well, they had a hand in their own Fall by backing the dude...swallowing the cool aid along the way....

Bush has United Us like no other could do...Look at our Gains and his losses....he is astounding in how he defeats himself...
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 07:58 AM
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12. True
He has united us, and given us a purpose. Too bad we have to clean up his and his buddie's mess.

He's is bush the destroyer.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:13 PM
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26. The longer he stays in the white house...the more damage he does
He needs to be removed as we do an infected boil/abscess....get in those surgeons asap.....

A loose cannon in heaving seas....OMG, those GOPers who snuck him in should be ashamed and in JAIL. How many Pubs Cheated, Lied, and Stole for this dude? Too many in my book...whoever they are, they should be on trial and go to jail....
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 08:03 AM
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13. NO PITY! Pity the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and American
families who have lost their loved ones or now have crippled loved ones with PTSS...

Pity what? His arrogance and greed?
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 08:24 AM
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15. My position is quite clear
on this matter--I hate his guts, and will continue to do so, regardless of how long I live.

However, I must also remind people that Georgie isn't the only one around that deserves our complete contempt. People like Dickhead, Rove, Norquist, Condi, DeLay, Frist, Hastert, Noe, Foley, and 99.5% of any West Winger in the Bush administration should be revulsed LONG after they are forever out of office. But of course this will never happen--they will all go happily their own way, with monstrous Federal pensions, cushy corporate jobs with their favorite PAC members, and private industry where they will continue to help with the downhill spiral of the world's ozone layer and other signs of global warming and attacks on our basic rights as citizens of this country. And we must not forget that the idiot in charge will likely continue to be in bed--both literally and figuratively--with the religious right, continue to claim he did it all for "god."
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 08:56 AM
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16. He needs to become the object of an investigation, trial and conviction...
:nopity:
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G_Leo_Criley Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 01:09 PM
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29. exactly right ...
investigate and enumerate the crimes. Every last one ....

glc
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 09:07 AM
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18. I will never pity that criminal motherfucker
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 10:54 AM
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19. My pity is reserved for
the parents & families of the American boys & girls killed, maimed and pschologically damaged by Bush and his cabal. My pity is reserved for the Iraqi men, women & children who have been killed, maimed, blown up and destroyed by this insane and evil war. What History will say 100 years from now depends entirely on who writes that history. I would like to believe that Bush's Presidency has been such a foul stain on American history that even if the descendants of PNAC/Neocons are in power and write the history it will still be incredibly damning. But who knows.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 10:55 AM
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20. He's pitifully revolting.
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focusfan Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 11:48 AM
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21. how can you feel pity for someone you hate???
why feel sorry for someone that has benifited from Deaths of
American soldiers and has took money out of your billfold  to
make him richer.and someone that is wanting to take your
freedoms away.i don't feel a bit pity for the s.o.b
:thumbsdown: 
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 11:49 AM
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22. He'll have someone ghost write his memoirs. No one will read them.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:05 PM
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24. Yes, he will become a willing prison b*tch.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:12 PM
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25. Nixon (and LBJ) were tragic figures
"Great men" (in an amoral sense of "great") and tragic in the ancient sense: possessed of significant talents, but driven by a fundamental flaw (which itself was responsible for their greatness) to their self-destruction. * does not have the talents or complexity of Nixon. Nixon was a man of great character, by which I do not mean that he was a moral or ethical man but that he had a strong and individual character that determined his actions and impressed itself on those around him. * has no character. Not simply "bad character"; he has none. The vacuous shell of a drug addict. The simperings of an eternal adolescent. I pity Nixon and LBJ; I don't pity *.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:20 PM
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27. He will be LET OFF THE HOOK as an inconsequential BLIP
Given the LACK OF SCRUTINY and ACCOUNTABILITY he has been granted from 2000 on: As a candidate, he was not pressed for hard answers and we were told NOT to ridicule him because that was MEAN.

He himself demanded "NO FINGER POINTING" and "DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS" as ways of escaping scrutiny of his pitiful record as a governor in a weak-governor state and escaping how his dirty campaign for Poppy against DUKAKIS *did* MESS WITH MASSACHUSETTS.

Then we were told that nothing that was happening was HIS responsibility, that it was ALL CLINTON's fault.

Then we were told not to focus on him in '06 because HE'S NOT ON THE BALLOT and WILL BE GONE forever.

So, we will be left HIS MESS, but HE will be off chemically abusing at endless baseball games, with the occasional millions in speaking fees for oil companies.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 04:54 AM
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33. How many billions of people will wildly celibrate when he dies?
Will it be 1 billion or just 3 billion? How to celibrate bush,
go up to a homeless person, and prepare to urinate on them, then instead
of pissing on them, give them enough money to buy a weeks food.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 08:46 AM
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35. When Bush finally leaves the scene, the worldwide joy will be palpable.
I'm picturing a celebration like we've never seen before. This has been a long six years, folks. The day America finally flushes this piece of crap away will be the best day of my life.

Gonna party like it's 1999!
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 09:43 AM
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37. I'm kinda hoping * will become the object of Bubba's desires...
In Leavenworth.

-Hoot
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 09:51 AM
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38. might i suggest
"suicide?"

They are the Bush Crime Family, after all. Poor Fredo.

Just kiddin, Agent Mike!
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