screembloodymurder
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Sun Dec-10-06 10:16 AM
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We shouldn't have gone into Iraq, but hindsight is 20/20. |
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Edited on Sun Dec-10-06 10:17 AM by screembloodymurder
After six years of trying to convince my republican friends of Bush's folly, they tell me hindsight is 20/20. Fuck em. Fuck em all.
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Sun Dec-10-06 10:19 AM
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1. Drive them to the enlistment center. Let them sign up for their fucking war. |
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Sun Dec-10-06 10:32 AM
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4. They should serve the country by burying the dead in Iraq. |
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How convenient, all the lies that got us into this war were simply mistakes due to false intelligence. Damn, I hate these people.
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Sun Dec-10-06 10:25 AM
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2. This was no "folly"--Bush was given 20/20 FORESIGHT on the invasion |
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Bush was told in no uncertain terms what would happen if he invaded, especially with such low troop levels. He not only went in anyway, he barely waited for inspectors to leave!
:headbang: rocknation
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Sun Dec-10-06 10:27 AM
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3. It was not hindsight, dammit! |
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What your "friends" are ignoring is that we are not suddenly realizing, johnny-come-lately style, that it was a bad idea. For them, if they are accomplishing a conversion, it is 20-20 hindsight. For those of us who were gifted with foresight and current sight, it is not. If a group of people is incapable of thinking deeply enough to proceed cautiously in starting an elective war, there is no reason to trust their judgment on any issue.
This bullshit of "lessons learned" is simply that-bs. We should not be electing people so they can learn things; we elect people, or should, because of a proven track record--a proven ability to make choices that history will prove correct.
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Sun Dec-10-06 10:40 AM
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6. I totally agree with you, but I couldn't even get them to admit |
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that Iraq had nothing to do with 911 and we went in there because Bush said they had WMD's. No, we went in there to promote Democracy. Bush had the noblest of intentions. With this kind of denial, we'll never learn from our mistakes.
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Sun Dec-10-06 10:33 AM
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5. I tell my Republican/conservative coworkers: |
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You can't possibly be THAT ignorant. They invariably get mad claiming they are NOT stupid. I have to explain there is a difference between ignorant and stupid. then they begin the old rants about WMD, Al Qaeda and Saddam...I tell them they need to read more than Rush Limbaugh's lips for a news source. they give a sarcastic laugh, I ask what else they READ for their news source. None can give a name of a legitimate media source. They ARE ignorant AND stupid.
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Sun Dec-10-06 10:42 AM
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8. And they're dangerous. |
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They are a threat to our country and to democracy.
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Sun Dec-10-06 06:52 PM
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12. When you're dealing with these idiots, |
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ignorant and stupid begin to look remarkably the same.
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Sun Dec-10-06 10:40 AM
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7. I hear you! I know how it feels. |
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This morning the talking heads said that the * administration thought we would be greeted with flowers and had no default for Iraqis defending what is theirs! Give me a break. Who in their right mind would go in without a backup plan. They choose oil over life. Those Americans who thought this war was a good idea should be over there flipping pancakes for the troops right now. No excuses. If I had a dime for every call I made to senators before this war.... Oh well, if they stop the killing that will have to be good enough for me. Yesterday my fundie mother said that there is no such thing as peace on earth. Peace comes with death. Who teaches this stuff? She said that she hates it when I sign my emails Peace on earth! I really think that this 'kill them all and let god sort it out' mentality is bigger than we think. Peace on earth, Kim
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Sun Dec-10-06 10:44 AM
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To hell with the rest of em.
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Sun Dec-10-06 11:06 AM
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10. Foresight is not so bad if you've got a brain |
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Sun Dec-10-06 12:10 PM
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11. lots of us had good foresight |
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There are plenty of people who said this was a very bad idea even before the invasion started.
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:08 AM
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13. Hundreds of thousands of loyal Americans and millions worldwide... |
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Hundreds of thousands of loyal Americans and millions worldwide stood up, multiple times *BEFORE THE WAR* and said "This is a dumb idea!"
We knew American would rapidly "win the war", but we also knew that there was no way that America would hold the peace. We knew that, once the "mission" was "accomplished", the real challenges would begin. But we were dismissed as lefties, loonies, and "focus groups". The same media that is now saying "who could have known?" and "hindsight is 20/20" was routinely diminishing *BY AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE* the reports of our numbers: "Hundreds march opposing Bush" would read the headline when, in fact, several hundreds of hundreds (that is, tens of thousands) had marched *OPPOSING BUSH'S IMMINENT WAR*.
Never, ever let anyone forget: We were out there, and we were right! Whenever you hear it, immediately stamp on this bullshit that "no one could have known!" because millions of us demonstrably *DID KNOW*.
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:29 AM
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14. How about all those people who's foresight was 20/20? n/t |
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Mon Dec-11-06 09:20 AM
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15. hindsight or foresight |
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bush is blind in either direction
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