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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:01 PM
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Kirk Douglas 90th Birthday Message to America's "Generation Y"
Douglas's editorial message to young people, summed up:

The world's in a mess. You are inheriting it. It's up to you to make a difference.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061209/lasa002.html?.v=28
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:04 PM
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1. yeah -- thanks for that mess Kirk
I really get annoyed with these wealthy people and their *pronouncements* on the fate of the world. Yeah, it's messed up, but it didn't stop Kirk or his spawn to make millions of dollars. :sarcasm:
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:08 PM
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4. Kirk Douglas is a great example of a Hollywood Liberal
Like his old friend Burt Lancaster.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:19 PM
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11. Burt starred in 'Seven Days in May', too.


"And if you want to talk about your oath of office, I'm here to tell you face to face, President Lyman, that you violated that oath when you stripped this country of its muscles - when you deliberately played upon the fear and fatigue of the people and told them they could remove that fear by the stroke of a pen. And then when this nation rejected you, lost faith in you, and began militantly to oppose you, you violated that oath by not resigning from office and turning the country over to someone who could represent the people of the United States."
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:09 PM
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5. Kirk starred in 'Seven Days in May.'


From what I've read, it was one of JFK's favorite stories.
He looked forward to seeing the screen version.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:15 PM
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8. He broke the blacklist.
From where I sit he's paid his dues and probably yours too.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:17 PM
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10. You have no concept what Mr Douglas accomplished in his life, do you? . . .
He was Dalton Trumbo's friend and used his considerable cultural clout to single-handedly resurrect Mr Trumbo's career and in the process helped turn back the tide of HUAC reactionism. He was instrumental in getting works by Edward Abbey filmed. For the past twenty or more years, he and his wife have spent a considerable fortune developing playgrounds in some of the poorest sections of the Southland.

But all you see is his "money," yet remain blind to the purposes to which he put it. Read a little before you open your mouth next time. The examples I've cited are but a few in a long and distinguished life of service to ideals in which he believes. What have you done, other than make "pronouncements" about people you know nothing about?
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:34 PM
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15. Kirk Douglas really did walk the walk...
...unlike so many (some right here on DU) that are just talk.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 06:28 PM
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26. Tru dat.nt
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:34 PM
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16. Those gifts under the tree are never quite good enough for some, I guess.
:shrug:
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 06:15 PM
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23. No matter what people get
There's always someone who wants a pony.

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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:38 PM
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17. That's right, he was lead in "Lonely are the Brave" based on "The Brave Cowboy"
<- says the DUer with the monkeywrench over there
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 06:31 PM
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27. Lonely Are the Brave is a great one, too.
I'm still laughing at that early scene in the bar when the guy hurls a bottle at Douglas from across the room and Douglas' subsequent reaction.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 06:35 PM
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28. I get really annoyed...
...with people who make sweeping, unfair assumptions about genuine, old-school liberals without knowing jack shit about the people they're attacking.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 05:15 PM
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35. Maybe you ought to rent a few DVDs of Kirk's movies
and read about him before spouting such drivel! Or did you confuse him with Ronald Reagan? :sarcasm:
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 10:28 PM
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36. ......
:wtf:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:06 PM
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2. And Generation Y is asking
"Why?"

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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:07 PM
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3. Happy Birthday Kirk!

We need you now more than ever.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:12 PM
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6. What movie was that from?
I tuned in in the middle of it a few months ago and was glued to the screen.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:13 PM
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7. Paths of Glory.
Directed by Stanley Kubrick -- one of the best movies ever made, IMHO.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:25 PM
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13. Because of its harsh portrait of the French army, the film was banned in France until 1975.
Roger Ebert wrote a great review of the film at his website: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050225/REVIEWS08/502250305/1023
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:28 PM
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14. And THE best anti-war movie...
...ever made, IMHO.
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SquireJons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 06:27 PM
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25. I agree
When I saw criticism of him earlier in the thread, I immediately thought of this movie. Whatever his supposed sins may be, he contributed greatly to human discourse with that film. I also remember a story about him and John Wayne, who were friends. Supposedly, Wayne was upset that Douglas took the lead in a film about Van Gogh and Wayne said to him that they had an obligation to uphold the masculinity of the type casting that Wayne had embraced. Douglas blew him off and they ended up in a fist fight over it. This story was related by Douglas, so I assume it's true. Anyone who slugged John Wayne is alright in my book.

Happy B-day Kirk.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 02:29 PM
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33. It was a great one, but so was "Fail Safe"
I saw it on cable a few weeks ago and it was just chilling ...

Bake
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:41 PM
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18. IMHO, as well
The night I watched it on AMC I felt like dying, it was so depressing. That's the kind of movie that really leaves a mark about the horrors of war and human nature.
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 10:10 AM
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30. yeah thats a great one alright!
glad you mentioned it, everyone should see it
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 03:54 PM
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40. I think Kirk gave Stanley Kubrick his start as a director in Paths......
If I recall there were problems and Douglas brought stanley in to direct his, Kirk's, movie.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:15 PM
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9. I forgot how much Michael looks like his father
Paths of Glory is one of the greatest (and most saddening) movies I've ever seen.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 11:34 PM
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37. A wonderful man, bless him
If you ever get the chance, read his autobiography, The Ragman's Son. Its excellent, you'll really find out what a liberal he is. The book was a real beacon of hope during the dark years of the 1980's.

Happy Birthday, Mr. Douglas and thank you!!

:party:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:21 PM
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12. You tell 'em, Spartacus! nt
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:43 PM
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19. What a classy statement
Speaking as someone who is about to graduate college and is looking at graduate school, I hope to fulfill his wish during my lifetime. I've been thinking the same thoughts as him for about three years now, and I've talked to a lot of my fellow young people who take the same attitude. There are quite a few of us out here who realize how much depends on our generation. I think we'll do our best, but I hope it's not already too late to make a change.
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 06:08 PM
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21. Sad to say it may take more than one generation...
...to undo the damage done by this staggeringly incompetent
mis-administration...both in this country and around the
world.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 06:18 PM
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24. Never too late to make a change
however dire things are. Don't ever stop trying to create change.

I have faith in your generation.

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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 08:24 PM
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29. Thanks
I have faith in my generation too. Although I'm probably biased towards my own peeps, I think that there are a lot of upstanding people in my generation, people for me and others to emulate. Knowing people on a personal level lets you see past some of the things that usually get us flak. I know one guy who on the surface is a total goofball. Here's someone who doesn't brush his hair often, makes crazy jokes and just likes to laugh all the time at everything. I don't want to put things in the following terms, but I don't think there's a lot of other ways to put it. On the surface, this is the kind of seemingly aimless person that O'Reilly and Limbaugh love to pick on. They'd see him on the street clowning with his pals (me included) and think "here's somebody who needs to put down the bong". They'd never stop to find out that this young man doesn't smoke pot, and is in fact one of the top students in his field at our university of 40k. I just wish people wouldn't judge us as a generation by our cover, as it were.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 12:04 PM
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31. We all get judged by the previous generation
and the judgment is usually superficial, cliché-ridden and cartoonish.

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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 03:22 PM
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39. And the future one
It might help all involved to realize that mostly each generation is just trying to do the best they can.
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onecent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:55 PM
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20. Bless you and yours Mr. Douglas!!!
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 06:10 PM
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22. If you get a chance, please read his autobiography,
The Ragman's Son.....(I think).....absolutely fascinating, old-hollywood type book.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 01:22 PM
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32. Best birthday wishs to great actor & man.
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andyhappy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 04:18 PM
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34. X?
everyone always forgets about generation x....I guess we did it with ourselves really.

apathy isn't very popular!
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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 02:28 PM
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38. I thought he had Alzheimers
Good to know he doesn't.
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