My generation was full of druggies and anti-establishment rabble rousers!

[trumad]

AND I was one of them. I'm getting the biggest kick out of reading posts about video games and how the kids today are out of control because of them. SHIT! These kids are Nuns compared to my generation. LSD, Coke, THC, Long hair---fuck the establishment.... Now that was a crazy ass generation back in the late 60's and 70's.

Sex Pistols--The Clash--- David Johansen... More LSD--Purple Dragon Mesq, Quaaludes.... Heroin... OD's... You name it. We were a parents nightmare.

The same knuckleheads that are screaming about video games today are the same type of knuckleheads who screamed about long hair and Sid and Nancy back in the day.

They have become their parents and in my mind are far worse because they simply haven't learned that you can't stop cultural evolution.


Ah quaaaludes---now that was a damn good drug.

[demnan]

1. I was a social disaster in the 70's

In my school you were either a jock, druggie or Jesus Freak and I wasn't any of these things. Today you would have called me a nerd, but that was before computers and nerdy people became cool.

[Hand]

2. Heh heh.

Way back when, the fundies warned that Elvis, and later the Beatles (et al.), would corrupt an entire generation. Turns out they were right, and the world's a better place for it. :hippie:

[melm00se]

27. no difference thru history....

Way back when, the fundies warned that Elvis, and later the Beatles (et al.), would corrupt an entire generation. Turns out they were right, and the world's a better place for it

and before that it was jazz and the jitterbug and before that it was flappers and before that it was showing ankles and and and...(ad infinitum)

[TahitiNut]

3. I regard the 'boomer' generation as very bifurcated.

The first half has very little in common with the second half. Those born between '46 and '54 are quite distinct from those born between '55 and '64. (It should probably be noted that it's predominantly those born between '38 and '45 who initially created - and led - the "counterculture." That was long before it became a fad - marketed and stylish.)

[trumad]

10. I Googled bifurcated.

To divide into two parts or branches.

[crikkett]

12. and it seems like something's either bifurcated or not,

versus "very" or "a little"
:shrug:

on edit: oops, I meant to reply to the Tahiti guy upthread :)

[TahitiNut]

30. Wow. Could there be a more superficial post?

:eyes:

If it helps, consider the word 'clearly' as being intended. Sorry to confuse such a sensitive sense of composition.
:shrug:

[annabanana]

18. As a "'49er", I think you have it right.

The beats & hipsters got the ball rolling.

[TahitiNut]

32. I think it comes out fairly clearly when speaking of drug use.

Much (not even nearly all, of course) of the earlier drug use was associated with "mind expanding" ... like peyote and other 'consciousness altering' substances. The early counterculture was quite sincerely interested in meditation, 'enlightenment,' and transcendental experiences. Strangely called "new age" (Age of Aquarius?) but possibly some of the most ancient mystical/spiritual practices, it was quickly reduced to its sheerly recreational mode ... almost in a deliberate attempt to demean and discard any more conscientious goal. Sure - the 'beat' generation used drugs. Even then, there was at least SOME artistic or spiritual motivation among the sheerly escapist.

Even the Beatles (part of the 'war baby generation') explored transcendental meditation - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - and some spiritual growth. While even I can easily don the cloak of cynicism and say "Yeah. Sure." I must, if I'm intellectually honest, acknowledge some degree of sincerity in their efforts.

While many might be aware that Jim Morrison named the group 'The Doors' based on Aldous Huxley's 1957 work "The Doors of Perception," I doubt that many today recognize the more serious spiritual explorations of which the use of mescaline was a part and the philosophical perspective that Huxley espoused.

It's also quite true that many returning Viet Nam veterans brought with them the 'discovery' that wacky weed wasn't like it was cracked up to be by a phobic government propaganda film.

So, while I can clearly recall some degree of this in the 'war baby generation' ('38-'45) and the 'early boomer generation' ('46-'54), I didn't see it nearly at all in the 'late boomers' who adopted the styles and habits almost purely on a superficial and recreational basis.

[AnnInLa]

54. "Counter Culture".....do you mean

by the first half of the boomers....such as beatniks, angry comedians, on-the-road writers, jazz musicians? Reefers would send one straight to hell, I heard.

[hobbit709]

4. I started doing acid

when it was still legal-before Oct. 1, 1966-a day that will live in infamy. And I'm STILL a rabblerouser.

[sam sarrha]

5. ar least when we got high we did something.. video games also get me really high, but you dont do

anything.. they are really addictive..!! and mindless. id rather my kid smoke dope than play vid games all the time

[trumad]

8. LOL

Yeah---that's what I'll tell my kids... Drop acid instead of playing Halo 2. and as if drugs aren't addictive.

[crikkett]

14. I don't think acid is addictive.

[trumad]

15. Thank God...

But quaaludes, and Coke are... trust me, I know.

[crikkett]

21. I'm just sayin',

It's better imagery than any video card I've seen. And you can go for a walk.

[trumad]

26. LOL

Depends on the drug... Mushrooms... I completely agree with you.

[Megahurtz]

60. Peyote!

Tasted nasty but did the trick!

[ContraBass Black]

6. I started playing computer games when I was two.

Now, I'm a murderous delinquent fiend who can't read.

[Dr.Phool]

7. I'm getting to the point where I'm ready to start again.

Escape from reality. What a nice thought.

[trumad]

9. BRING BACK QUAALUDES! BRING BACK QUAALUDES! BRING BACK QUAALUDES!

BRING BACK QUAALUDES! BRING BACK QUAALUDES! BRING BACK QUAALUDES!

lol

[madokie]

37. BRING BACK QUAALUDES! BRING BACK QUAALUDES! BRING BACK QUAALUDES!

Yes by all means bring back number 714

[Mabus]

11. Was?

Apparently you stopped. Stopping for some of us, not so much.

[trumad]

13. I've replaced my drug use with video game play.

Yesterday I wanted to hand you a flower...today I want to put a 9Mil in your head. ;-)

[Mabus]

29. I'm a Diablo II addict

I also like the Starcraft and Warcraft series.

Ah, the joys of self-employment.

[donsu]

16. today's kids viewing/playing violent video games doesn't compare

to your generations going ons.

these videos are brainwashing

and many of the parents are also brainwashed

there was nothing like this during your generation's childhood

[trumad]

23. My kids play

I play....

So we're all brainwashed....??? LOL

I can't wait to tell my kids... they'll get a chuckle out of that.

[donsu]

35. can I ask why you enjoy playing games where you kill people as part

of the game?

[kiahzero]

38. I know I do because I'm a closet sociopath.

:crazy:

[trumad]

43. Because the people aren't people

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

51. Same reason I enjoy killing aliens and dragons and robots.

Why don't you like it?

[crikkett]

17. and now most of them are on antidepressants

bummer.

[Annces]

19. I saw Johansen a few years ago doing old folk songs

He was taking drops from a bottle, and joked that it was liquid St. John's Wort to help his mood. I think it was cold medicine.

[trumad]

25. Last time I saw him he was Buster Poindexter.

Saw him in San Fran and he had the whole place doing the Conga. What a blast.

[Virginia Dare]

20. What cracks me up is...

the kids who walk around dressed like Sid and Nancy thinking they're so cool and rebellious. Yeah, how radical, that hasn't been done before...:eyes:

[Megahurtz]

61. So why does that bother you?

Just wonderin'.....

[Virginia Dare]

64. I didn't say it did...

I said it cracked me up.

[JeffR]

22. Wow

As Robbie Robertson put it: "This is sure stirrin' up some ghosts for me."

Great post!

[trumad]

24. I loved my past....

even though it's deeply buried.

[ms liberty]

56. And she said, "hang the rich"

You can find me somewhere down the crazy river...or maybe on Hell's Half Acre. LOL...

Awesome CD.

[in_cog_ni_to]

28. Orange Sunshine, Windowpane, shrooms, White Cross, Hash

ah yes. Did it all and survived. Had the BEST teenage years ever....it was a blast! Those years were great. Everyone loved everyone. Everyone accepted everyone. It didn't matter who you were or where you came from, you were accepted...Peace, Love and Rock and Roll. Luckily, MY parents never knew I did drugs.:hippie::smoke:

Video games and the kids who play them today don't even compare to our generation. They're ANGELS by comparison!

I remember getting loaded and playing Atari's Space Invaders until 6:00 in the morning...never going to bed.:hippie:

[JacksonWest]

31. Don't forget us grunge punks.

We had Sound Garden, Screaming Trees, Alice in Chains, Pearl jam, Smashing Pumpkins, Stone Temple Pilots-Shrooms, Super Kind Weed, Ecstasy and Special K. Mud Honey, Nirvana, Mother Love Bone, Monster Magnet, Kyus(now Queens of the Stone Age).

The early nineties were a great time for rock. And drugs. I took a long break from video games.

[Saboburns]

33. I use illicit drugs AND play video games

AT THE SAME TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm SERIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hobbit709]

66. Acid got me through Air Force Tech School

Did the 37 week Electronics course in 17 weeks with a 97 average. I could see the electrons moving around on the schematics and it made sense.

[Lilith Velkor]

34. My generation is full of conformist robots who take their meds

Having kids locked up was all the rage back in the '80s. A lot of us were beaten, raped, some even tortured. If we tried to tell a parent or authority figure about it we were almost never believed, because it was always assumed we would say anything in order to get out and do some drugs.

By the '90s, the demonization had mostly shifted to black people, and police brutality had become a spectator sport.

I agree that some of your generation is worse than their parents, but that is because they have learned you *can* stop cultural evolution. What they haven't learned is why you *shouldn't.*

Got any Quaaludes, maaan? B-)

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

36. What gets me...

Is that it's a real insult to our intelligence for some of these politicians to assume we're stupid enough to fall for this "violent videogame" bullshit.

The only people who have a gripe about videogames is the movie industry, and that's because they're losing money. So they lobby politicians, who figure it can be a swing voter issue like flag burning.

And then there are the suckers. People who haven't had an original thought in their minds in their entire lives and fall in line on some dumb issue because their politician tells them to. Reminds me of the Republicans who support Iraq.

[AnnInLa]

39. and black-mollies and yellow jackets

In a thread one time, you asked me how old I was....am now returning the favor...how old are you?

One of the problems with alot of people our age is that we can't pass any investigation that would allow us to run for office. We both probably went on and did fine professionally and socially, but any attempt to run for office (even school board member), would reveal alot of craziness during that period of time....craziness that would be completely misinterpreted.

Sometimes I miss those years. My song was "Weed, Whites and Wine"...linda rondstat

[Mojorabbit]

44. That was my road trip song

but Little Feat's version...

[AnnInLa]

52. reminds me of that movie, which because I am in my 50s

I can't remember. Starring Barry somone, driving a car across country, cops on the trail, being guided by the black DJ, meeting up with all kinds of characters. Vanishing Point? No, something else.

[unc70]

58. Yes, Vanishing Point with Barry Newman

and Cleavon Little -- various others like Charlotte Rampling.

And starring a 440 cubic inch Dodge Challenger R/T.

I think I'm having a flashback.

[AnnInLa]

63. thanks....

does it ever come on old-people's TV?

[unc70]

67. It was one Encore or Fox Movie or such about six months ago .

I ran into it for the first time a couple of months ago on one of the channels that usually is showing older movies, often with subtitles. Haven't seen it go by recently.

Sort of like Easy Rider meets Thunder Road meets Camus meets Mopar.

[trumad]

45. coming up to 50 in september...

it will be my 9/11.

[AnnInLa]

50. 50 gets you initiated into

a private club, which cannot ever, under any circumstances, even be mentioned to people who are under 50. You have a big, delightful, fun, dare I say it....estatic experience coming. Nuff said.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. Video Games = Comics

the same happened back then as well

I want the sicence to be done, but chances are it will be as good (rather flawed) as it was regarding comics

[spanone]

41. Bring back ludes...now there's a campaign.

[Cleita]

42. You forget a lot of them didn't do drugs except MJ.

Many nascent environmentalists moved onto communal farms and attempted to redefine their values and principles in a different way than they were taught by parents, school and church. They were the ones who became tree sitters trying to preserve what was left of our old growth forests. They ate vegetarian meals and grew organic produce. True they also practiced free love, but it wasn't all sex, drugs and rock n' roll for those kids.

I think the best thing I heard about the sixties was in a Stargate SG1 episode where Jack O'Neill and his team go back in time to the sixties. They are picked up hitchhiking by a hippie couple in a psychedelic van who are heading for Woodstock. The boy is due to be drafted into the army and Vietnam. They are contemplating escaping to Canada. O'Neill says to the kids before they say goodby, that this would be the best of times they were living through, before his team member Sam tells him to be quiet so as not to change events in the future.

[Ksec]

46. Ah those were the days

Graduated high school in 72.
I cant remember the rest of the seventies .
The eighties were hazy.

[Ksec]

49. Oh I forgot to add that I woke up living in a commune in 85

It was awesome. Lived there for about a year.

So many stories to tell...

[in_cog_ni_to]

53. : ) Yeah, those days really destroyed my memory.

I use to remember EVERYTHING....of course age could have something to do with the memory loss. I graduated in '73, I think.:rofl:

[madmusic]

47. It was all Elvis' fault back then...

And rock 'n roll!

More civil disobedience, not less!

Today's sheep are gladly lead to the slaughter for their own good.

[Alamom]

48. Yes, that's it ! Elvis and Bill have completely destroyed morality.

:sarcasm:

[blues90]

55. I don't agree

I am from that generation , most of the talk about the 60's was hype . There were a few areas that did boost the drug image and many areas that had the long hair and hippy clothes but for the most part kids in the 60's were not into drugs other than MJ . It was the music and vietnam war with the draft that were in the forefront .

[WI_DEM]

57. I think the kids of the 60's had a bigger social conscience than many of the

kids today do. I see too many who are just interested in designer this or that or cell phones while many 60's and early 70's kids were in fights against Vietnam, poverty and for civil rights.

[Sapere aude]

59. Sex, drugs and rock and roll, vs the play station III

"Why does ever generation think their folks are square?" Lovin Spoonfull

[dogday]

62. Pharmaceuticals were big in the 70's

and everyone would pass them out for free.... Those were the days..

[mdmc]

65. Back then where you a AU H2O supporter back then

like some of our current rat worms:kick: