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Homer12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 07:09 PM
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Do Christians Enjoy Being Persecuted?
Edited on Mon Dec-11-06 07:10 PM by Homer12
I would have to say YES. It makes them feel more like Jesus and they can get away with their sick S&M dream.


It's also a straw-man defense when the FUNDI's go into countries that don't want them when they force their religion on poor people by coercion and lies.

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 07:11 PM
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1. IBTL....
Edited on Mon Dec-11-06 07:11 PM by mike_c
:popcorn:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 07:11 PM
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2. Yes. Persecuting and being persecuted. Part and parcel of it all.
Edited on Mon Dec-11-06 07:13 PM by SpiralHawk
The unevolved Piscean trip, if you know what I mean. Though "enjoy" is not the operative verb.

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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 07:12 PM
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3. yes. It's one of the main tenets of the religion.
"oh woe is me! I'm sad, (poor, ill, persecuted, gay) but the Loooorrd will SAAVE ME!"
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 07:13 PM
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4. When I grew up in Catholic school, we were taught that the greatest thing that could happen to you
was to die for your faith. I imagined what it would be like and many of us wanted to be persecuted so we could die for our faith and go to heaven.

Then we were taught that people would persecute us for our beliefs. They were bad and we were good. We expected to be persecuted and looked for persecution at every turn.

I now think it is a victim complex religious people have.
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 07:13 PM
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5. Of course not
Not all Christians are fundies. Not all Christians try to force their religion on poor people by coercion and lies.
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Homer12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 07:15 PM
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8. No Offense Nicole


But Christians like you need to speak up more and fight back against those Fundie's who hijack your faith.

And on that...Thanks for Speaking up.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 07:27 PM
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14. Here, they lump 'em together. If you're a Christian, you're a fundamentalist.
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 07:30 PM
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15. I've noticed that too.
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 07:13 PM
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6. They Love it! - 80% of Population, and somehow, still Persecuted
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 07:15 PM
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7. Not at all, it means the domination Christianists think their faith entitles them to is taken away.
Edited on Mon Dec-11-06 07:18 PM by Heaven and Earth
Needless to say, that domination is illegitimate.

I'd say the majority of mainline Christians don't think they are being persecuted. I certainly don't think so.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 07:16 PM
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9. well, here's their thread, thank you
but you are exactly right.

No need to feed them though
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Homer12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 07:18 PM
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10. I can be hired to persecute

Hey Fundies, if you need someone to Persecute you! I will for a price.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 07:19 PM
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11. unfortunately it's inflated in our bible re:
christians and persecutions.

when christians were persecuted -- that's all the bible mentions -- and nothing about other persecutions that were going on around them.

more -- they were nevre persecuted in the numbers that were historically presented -- SOME were -- but not nearly as many as ''reported''.

so it takes a point of view and whittles it down to a very sharp point.

more you the gospels where jesus talks about being persecuted for his sake.

what jesus is talking about here is the messianic divide.

followers of traditional Judaism would be very upset with the notion of a messiah -- and there would be divisions as a result.
it's not meant for christians as a whole.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 07:25 PM
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12. They get xtra points in heaven for that, don't they?
Kinda like LDS and offspring?

:shrug:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 07:26 PM
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13. fundamentalists of all sorts
all Christians are not fundamentalists, but fundamentalists like being persecuted. Fundamentalists of all sorts
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