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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:10 PM Original message |
The writing on the wall is getting clearer for Kerry and an '08 run. |
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WannaJumpMyScooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. Okay, I will take the first flame-thrower shots here |
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lancdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. You're not alone |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. then Ted should back Kucinich... nt |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. I agree! Why not, QuestionAll? Answer that Question! ...n/t |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. he's probably closer on issues to DK but Ted is also a pragmatic |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. horse/cart. cart/horse. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
77. Maybe he should back someone who can get elected. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Yep, we're right there with ya |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 02:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
55. Seconded.. we need a nice looking, well-spoken |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 03:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
94. I don't recognize anyonethinking of running who fits your description. n/t |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. Exactly.. It's too early to know who will emerge... |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 03:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
93. Kerry offers an opportunity for a genuine new kind of Democrat |
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davidwparker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. How is Hillary connecting with rank and file Democrats? I know these |
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lancdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. She does well in national polls |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. She does now, because everyone's heard of her |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
88. yeah, kinda like Kerry and Edwards weren't able |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 03:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
92. Polls smolls, mean nothing at this juncture. n/t |
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Tinksrival (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. That was exactly my only question from his statements. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
96. The whole article is questionable. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. Kerry's biggest liability with the "base" is still Ohio 2004... |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. I think a lot of people donated to his campaign on the vote recount issue... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Yep, I gave a bunch -- $$ and time |
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renate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 02:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
56. wow... thank you for your phenomenal commitment |
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NotGivingUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
45. pissed me off totally |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
49. Are you familiar with what Turncoat Carville did on Election Eve? |
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ItsTheMediaStupid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 08:43 AM Response to Reply #49 |
63. You're right, I don't have the full story |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
5. You can lead a pol to the writing, but you can't make him read |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 01:02 AM Response to Reply #5 |
53. LOL @ "lead a pol to the writing" nt |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
8. Time to move on, John. You tried, now let others carry the torch in '08 |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
13. Good. |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
14. Good news |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
16. Where's Ted's support for Kucinich? Why Clinton and Obama |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
17. Ouch. |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 03:20 AM Response to Reply #17 |
57. Gore/Obama '08 - we share the same dream... |
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Killarney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 01:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
86. Yes! Gore/Obama! |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 07:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
108. I'll take a piece of that action. |
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nam78_two (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
18. Clinton and Obama |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Gore/Kucinich! ....n/t |
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byronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:40 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Gore/Anybody. n/t |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I'll take that! ....n/t |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
20. I hope Kerry takes the hint. n/t |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
21. I honestly don't think that Kerry has the public support to win in 2008 |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:21 AM Response to Reply #21 |
73. Obama's "catching on" because he's all the media talks about. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 12:22 PM Response to Reply #73 |
82. well he sure is getting alot of crowds and it isn't just reporters |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
24. Why isn't Ted backing an anti-war candidate? And untill the stolen 2004 |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Obama = anti-war. And pro-universal health care. eom |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 09:55 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. Obama anti-war? A few nights ago he was jawing about "victory" |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:59 AM Response to Reply #43 |
76. he was most definitely anti Iraq war |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:15 PM Response to Reply #76 |
120. My prediction...and btw, I'm never wrong.. (smile) |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 12:10 AM Response to Reply #120 |
125. taking it to the bank ... |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 12:29 AM Response to Reply #43 |
127. a quote from Obama on the IWR |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. He would be an anti war candidate if he ran |
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byronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
25. Many, many vectors pulling against him. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
27. Kerry's Toast In That Arena. Tis Quite A Shame Too; He's A Great Man. |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Ditto. ....n/t |
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cadmium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
46. Globe reporters are well known to twist words and make |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:29 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Doesn't Really Matter Anymore. He's Done Anyway. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 03:18 PM Response to Reply #47 |
97. LOL, how do you figure that? If it wasn't possible news it wouldn't of been printed. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 12:14 AM Response to Reply #97 |
126. "how do you figure that?"... It's Called Deductive Reasoning And Logic. |
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whometense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 12:51 AM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Totally agree. |
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Prisoner_Number_Six (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
30. He had his chance, but decided to make a phone call instead. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Yep. Worse yet |
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DinahMoeHum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:17 AM Response to Reply #36 |
75. Bottom line: Kerry and crew choked at critical moments. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
33. Fucking ouch. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 09:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Ditto that. I'm surprised Kennedy is flappin' his gums so soon. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 03:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
98. Kerry is running until he says he isn't. Kennedy still supports him! n/t |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 06:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
105. I would like to see that, too, |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
34. So what? Kennedy will support him later anyways. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 09:01 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. True. |
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demdiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:08 AM Response to Reply #34 |
66. EXACTLY nt |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
38. Not only witll Kerry not run for prez in 08, he won't run again for Senate. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 09:04 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Don't suppose you have a link for that info |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 08:04 AM Response to Reply #40 |
61. I know this qualifies as hearsay but that is what it is, in that |
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kerrygoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 09:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Really? |
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demdiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:16 AM Response to Reply #38 |
69. Well if this is true that's very sad |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 05:31 PM Response to Reply #69 |
104. I agree and that is why I was so surprised to hear how he felt |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:54 AM Response to Reply #38 |
79. "Could not defend"??? What was stopping him, pray tell? |
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cadmium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:38 PM Response to Reply #79 |
114. If he reacted more often people would |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 02:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
90. I wouldn't trust an anonymous source |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 05:03 PM Response to Reply #90 |
102. I don't blame you. If I could reveal more I would but I can't so you |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 03:23 PM Response to Reply #38 |
99. Another anonymous source who doesn't know the senator very well. n/t |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
42. "Kennedy drops support" is putting it a little strongly, isn't it? |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
44. Kerry's a damn good man, a war hero and would make a fine President. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
48. Thinking who Ted supports for President right now is pretty insignificant |
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kerrygoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 02:40 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. My take on this |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 05:12 PM Response to Reply #54 |
103. Klein is just itching to restart the Swiftie Lie Machine again |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
50. I may be wrong, but I am reading that as Kennedy asking for Kerry to |
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cadmium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 08:46 AM Response to Reply #50 |
64. They do this with misleading Titles all the time--question for posters---> |
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demdiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:19 AM Response to Reply #50 |
71. Another interesting point nt |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
51. Oh thank Fuck. |
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BlueStater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 05:01 AM Response to Original message |
58. Oh, goody. Another anti-Kerry thread *barf* |
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demdiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:13 AM Response to Reply #58 |
67. LOL |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 12:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
83. Yeah, cuz that's what I'm known for around here. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 01:47 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. stirring up the blissfully ignorant? |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 06:54 AM Response to Original message |
59. Apparently, the Boston Globe went a little bit ahead of itself and the article is now |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 07:38 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. absolutely |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:55 AM Response to Reply #60 |
80. What Good Is Seasoning |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 12:06 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. old debate |
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cadmium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 08:28 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Here is another typical Globe "news" ie gossip tactic |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 12:37 PM Response to Reply #59 |
84. Jeez |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 07:17 PM Response to Reply #84 |
109. incoming |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 07:21 PM Response to Reply #84 |
110. Not your fault dear. I don't have to tell you what a love/hate relationship |
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demdiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
65. It sounds to me like they are twisitng Kennedy's words a little |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:18 AM Response to Reply #65 |
70. pretty generic statement from Kennedy |
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demdiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:20 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. I agree nt |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
68. You only have to read in between the lines to know that Ted is really saying |
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cadmium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:35 AM Response to Reply #68 |
74. Doesnt sound like you want him to run- OK. Reading between |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:33 PM Response to Reply #74 |
113. He can run in the primaries if he wants to, but I doubt he'll go anywhere this time |
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cadmium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 09:19 PM Response to Reply #113 |
128. Time will tell. Debates would change the dynamic--> for my part I |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #68 |
100. Well, I'll counter with a RUN JOHN RUN! |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:38 PM Response to Reply #100 |
115. I don't doubt he'd make a decent president |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 06:48 PM Response to Reply #68 |
106. Nah. He's saying "Shit or get off the pot" In other words, get a move on. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:41 PM Response to Reply #106 |
116. Maybe so, but Ted just doesn't sound too high on him anymore |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
78. Barack Obama Is Selling Hope And DSB Is Buying It |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #78 |
101. Fluff with no substance. n/t |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 08:21 PM Response to Reply #101 |
111. substance in spades |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:42 PM Response to Reply #101 |
117. He Had Enough Smarts To Oppose The IWR... |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:26 PM Response to Reply #117 |
121. He didn't have to vote on the resolution. It is easy to say you wouldn't have |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 12:04 AM Response to Reply #117 |
124. Obama did indeed oppose the IWR. |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
85. I feel bad for Kerry but please, NOT Hillary Ted |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
89. There is more to this story. Kerry is not out! n/t |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
91. Mr Pitt, you should know better than to jump the gun on anything |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
107. Kerry has a lot of enemies: the MSM, the MIC, the BFEE, PNACers, Big Business |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
112. If Kerry is a man of courage he will quickly put those new tires on |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
118. Teddy reads the writing on the wall. He realizes the field is wide open. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:28 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. No, Kennedy has said he still supports Kerry. Where did you read |
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lateo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
119. I certainly hope not! |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
123. While I still have every confidence in a Kerry candidacy and win in '08, |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
129. I'll take my thoughts on this from Tweety himself |
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