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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 06:34 AM
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Why has there been no other terror attack since nine eleven?
Is it because bush the great has made us safe from terrorists? Is it because the guy who attacked us is dead? Is it because our borders are strong and our security is sound?

The republics often boast about how we haven't suffered another terror attack since nine eleven, if you leave out the anthrax thingy. And they cite bush's' amazing deflective and protective powers and strengths. See, no other horrible attacks, inevitably followed by, "Have you forgotten the lessons of nine eleven"?

Although I'm tickled that there have been no new attacks, I still don't feel any safer, and I smell something rotten behind the whole lack of another attack. Meanwhile they remind us about once a month that we WILL be attacked again, not if, but when.

And yes, maybe I'm dredging for theories, because that's all I have to work with these days.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 06:37 AM
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1. Eight years
Eight years between the first World Trade attack and the second. That's all I'm going to say, Agent Mike.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 06:50 AM
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5. Bingo these ppl take their time
:(
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:22 AM
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14. That's why there won't be another MIHOP
Before the Internet, BushCo was on the rise and could easily get away with such things, especially once they had almost total control of the M$M.

Thanks to the internets and 6 years of the most blatantly corrupt administration in US history the Bush machine is coming apart at the seams. They can't get away with any more MIHOPs. Too many of us the truth about these bastards at this point.

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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:18 AM
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23. Both occurred while Bushes occupied the White House...
The 1993 attack occurred on February 26, 1992, roughly a month after the Clinton inaugural, indicating the planning took place well before.

Allegations of FBI foreknowledge
In the course of the trial it was revealed that the FBI had an informant, a former Egyptian army officer named Emad A. Salem. Salem claims to have informed the FBI of the plot to bomb the towers as early as February 6, 1992. Salem's role as informant allowed the FBI to quickly pinpoint the conspirators out of the hundreds of possible suspects.

Salem, initially believing that this was to be a sting operation, claimed that the FBI's original plan was for Salem to supply the conspirators with a harmless powder instead of actual explosive to build their bomb, but that the FBI chose to use him for other purposes instead. <4> He secretly recorded hundreds of hours of telephone conversations with his FBI handlers; reported by Ralph Blumenthal in the New York Times, Oct. 28, 1993, secton A,Page 1.

In December 1993, James M. Fox, the head of the FBI's New York Office, denied that the FBI had any foreknowledge of the attacks. The 1993 WTC sting operation was depicted as a false flag operation and was a plot device for the 1996 movie The Long Kiss Goodnight with Geena Davis.


Trade Center Attack 1993

Then we had the 2001 WTC attack, roughly 8 months after Bush Jr. took office, in which Bush Family business partners, the Saudis, had a significant role.

After the Berlin Wall fell in 1989 (on Bush Sr's watch), I wonder if he and his gang worried they would not be able to continue robbing the US Treasury. After all, it would be difficult to explain huge defense budgets when there was no longer an "enemy." Enter terrorism. The present-day terrorist has replaced the communist of yesteryear as America's No. 1 "enemy." And all this occurred under the watchful eye of Bush Sr. with the help of the Saudis.

Perhaps Clinton threw a wrench into their plans when he won in 1992. He became a speed bump for the neo-con fascists. They reacted with 8 years of non-stop Clinton bashing culminating in his impeachment. Then Bush Jr. was handed the White House with the help of a corrupt Supreme Court, and it was "back to business."

Bush Jr. replaced Bush Sr.--"terrorism" replaced "communism"--and all is going as planned.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:00 AM
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25. Right ...
A couple points ...

First off ... America really is the land of milk and honey, so to speak ... I think they have a VERY hard time getting the kinds of really hard core extremists over here, then keep them focused on doing things ... Just like we all are more than a little fat and pampered, I think it it hard to get them into the hating mindset over here ... The logistics of getting people over here, setting them up, and keeping them focused is a lot to pull off ...

Second ... Given that, they want the most "bang for their buck" when they do do things over here ... 9-11, on paper, was supposed to be even bigger ... It was a big time hail mary for them as was, and they are not going to waste their resoures, and what few really dedicated people they can get over here, and something relatively small ...

As most noted, these people have a L O N G perspective of time ... 8 years between WTC attacks ... They are just bidding their time ...

It isn't like we actually went and got OBL ... Dude is still breathing ...
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 06:38 AM
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2. because poppy has been pretty much getting his way since then.
no need for another...just yet.
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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 06:52 AM
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8. you got it!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 06:41 AM
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3. There were attacks after 9/11 and that guy is still as free as Osama.
The guy that mailed the anthrax got away with it! Funny how the guilty never paid in either case...
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 06:46 AM
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4. Because, IF the 9/11 attack was from al Qaeda, then there is no time table for another
These people are a very patient people when comes to their retaliation, they will wait years if not generations before avenging an act or death.
They will most likely wait until the time is most opportune before the have another attack.

Of course that all assumes that 9/11 was an terrorist attack instigated by radical muslims faction.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 06:50 AM
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6. Your puzzlement is appropriate
They could attack us again if they wanted. Easily. Since 9-11 there's been virtually no additional security put in place on our southern border and none of any substance where it counts at our airports and ports. It's like knowing your house is going to be robbed but not locking the windows and doors. All the intelligence in the world won't stop determined terrorists for this long when our physical defenses remain so weak. Yet nothing.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 06:56 AM
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9. I'm not 100% but it seems our southern border is less secure now than ever
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Altean Wanderer Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 06:51 AM
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7. The NeoCons will allow (or help along) another attack....
Edited on Tue Dec-12-06 06:52 AM by Altean Wanderer
when they need it most. The only way the US will attack Iran, for instance, is if there's a false flag attack on an American or Israeli vessel in the straights of Hormuz or another "attack" on the US mainland. Up to this point another terrorist event would have been counterproductive to the Neocons and the Bushites, who needed to repeadedtly tell us how much safer we are with them in power. Now that the Democrats will provide some checks and balances, I'd say the odds of a false-flag event have increased. The Neocons have been backed into a corner, and vicious animals that they are, are likely to lash out.

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rolfboy Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:07 AM
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12. exactly, this is what worries me the most
although i hate being cynical, i see a ba-a-a-ad scenario occurring around Sept/Oct '08. another terror attack on US soil, prompting bush/cheney(or whomever)/gates to postpone elections (indefinitely) until the US can be made safe for democracy, i mean, fascism.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:04 AM
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10. What was the reason for 9/11?
Edited on Tue Dec-12-06 07:07 AM by lapfog_1
First off, there have been more terrorist attacks since 9/11, but let's not get into that.

Second, 9/11 objectives of BOTH sides have been met. It was never the intention of Osama to kill all Americans, despite what bushco would have you believe. Osama wanted some specific goals... he wanted U.S. troops out of Saudi Arabia - which Bush silently did for him after 9/11, he wanted a large "here I am" win against the US, which 9/11 was, and he wanted the US to invade a Muslim country (I truly believe he thought it would be Afghanistan and that he would repeat his earlier glory days against the Russians). Bush provided him with Iraq and we now have 140,000 Americans for his jihadists to shoot at, 140,000 infidels to occupy a Muslim country and kill civilians and commit war crimes in what has to be the best recruiting war ever for OBL. As for Bushco, once he got people to buy into the war in Iraq (after 9/11 and after the Anthrax attacks), bushco got to rape the treasury with all of the billions and billions handed out to his buddies, Bush got his near dictatorial powers that the neocons figured they would need to continue a "never ending war". And the neocons got to go experiment and see if they could do some nation building (complete with a "forward leaning" US military presence) in the middle of the world's oil supply.

So pretty much, even if Buscho didn't tell OBL when to do 9/11 (MIHOP/LIHOP), both sides got what they really wanted out the 9/11 attacks. Bushco is stealing the taxpayers here blind, OBL is recruiting thousands of new jihadists. For OBL it was never about the west, it was about establishing the old caliphate (the Muslim empire) without western influence. He needs an radicalized generation of young Muslim men to feel like the US is their worst enemy, and that their current governments in places like Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan are therefore enemies as well because they are too friendly with the US and the west.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:04 AM
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11. It's Clinton's fault.
No matter what it is.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:10 AM
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13. There has been a continuous attack on and in the US ever
since 9-11.
ObL kicked it off, but the attacks on our way of life, the economy, peaceful co-existence, racial equality, health care, peace of mind, job opportunities, the environment, national and local infrastructure, education, virtually every aspect of modern American life have continued unabated ever since.

Those attacks have been carried out by bin Laden's proxies, the minority of vocal haters of that very way of life which we've built up over two centuries.
These people are not shy about exposing their hate for all things American, going to amazing lengths to publicize that hate and their attempts to destroy the majority of Americans who represent old America.

That old America, conservative America, is the one looked up to by most of the world. I am not talking about the disrupters and destroyers who have adopted protective coloration and claim to be conservative, but the people who have resisted and fought against the powerful corrupting influences of the crazy right wing.
Those old conservatives are to be found in a group calling itself liberal, progressive, and democrat.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:31 AM
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15. terrorists do not have to attack us over here
bush is doing the job better than the terrorist could ever do
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:38 AM
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16. Not counting anthrax
Could that be because terrorists weren't involved in that, but rather some agency or organization closer to home?
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 09:11 AM
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17. they continually try to have it both ways though
'we're safer!' and in the same breath 'we need to curtail civil liberties to protect you'


i've always felt that, conspiracy theories aside, that should there be another terror attack on us soil, the only true 'winners' would be the administration who could again ram through draconian legislation to benefit itself and its friends at the expense of the people, as well as 'justify' another rape of some poor nation whose only 'crime' is possessing some natural resources coveted by bush and friends.
IF conspiracy theories are to be relevent, its very possible that a failing administration would happily L/MIHOP another domestic attack in the waning month of 2008 in an attempt to sway the election since holding onto power is one of the few things they genuinely care about.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 09:13 AM
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18. Because another attack wouldn't serve the GOP's interests
9/11 rescued Smirk's Residency, so they LIHOP.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 09:25 AM
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19. * has been doing such a good job of destroying US they don't have to lift a finger to help him?
:shrug:
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 09:31 AM
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20. Now that the Democrats are in control of Congress...
Let's not forget Bush and Cheney's threats during the campaign.
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 09:36 AM
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21. You mean other than the "white powder" problems our Senate Leaders
experienced (and a bunch of news media), plus a bunch of African American church bombings, AND a bunch of clinic bombings? Plus, HOW MANY PLANES have "fallen" from the sky in the last few years (usually with Democratic Senate candidates in them) all in "unexplained" ways?

No terrorist attacks. Yup. None at all.

:sarcasm:
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 09:44 AM
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22. They got what they needed and wanted from the 9-11 attacks.
Edited on Tue Dec-12-06 09:45 AM by Toots
The attacks did the job. Americans are now terrified and willing to give up everything American to make Bush* their great leader....9-11 attacks were a complete success in every way possible..You don't need to keep attacking when you have won the battle..
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:29 AM
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24. Because while there are evil people in the world, there are only
so many, and of those, only so many desperate and crazy enough to carry out an attack, and of those, only so many that are so out of it they will give their lives for it.

Really. I think there would not have been another attack no matter what * did or did not do. It is very possible that there is just no one left even among the crazy Muslims :sarcasm: who really "hate us and want us dead" and are willing to die themselves over it. Going with the standard explanation of what happened, all 19 such people were used up on 911 and they don't have replacements.

And UBL has also gained enough of exactly what he wanted from 911 that he doesn't need to do it again.

Though you have the LIHOP/MIHOP contingent, which could say that Bushco hasn't needed, or hasn't dared carry out or not prevent, another one. Even under that scenario, you have to watch that you don't get caught and therefore can only carry out so many. The more a robber robs, the more likely he is to get caught.

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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:03 AM
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26. It's simply not our turn
even though we Americans think we're the center of the universe, we're not.
And the truth is, attacks from terrorists are increasing. All over the world.
We're not the only target.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:04 AM
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27. Because Bush/Cheney allowed 911 to happen.
Or caused it.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:08 AM
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28. It is only because these things take massive amounts of time to set up.
If anyone really thinks this administration is keeping us safe, they are as delusional as the prez.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:10 AM
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29. Because their "war" consisted of one successful attack...
and they succeeded. In their eyes, they won.
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:10 AM
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30. You must mean since the Anthrax attacks... nt
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:11 AM
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31. They're dividing the world
They're telling people in other countries that they're being attacked because of Bush's war in Iraq. Divide and conquer. If Bush hadn't gone into Iraq, and the world had moved to marginalize the terrorists, they would have adopted a different strategy. They're smarter than this bungle-headed administration, that's all. It doesn't serve their interests to attack us directly right now.

And yes they do exist.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:16 AM
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32. Tin foil time
I'm no so positive that there hasn't. I've been a pretty serious news fiend since watching CNN was my journalism home work in the early 90's and I don't recall the volume of chemical plant, warehouse and refinery explosions that there has been since the Iraq war started. Always when something blows up in this country within seconds the FBI makes the warm and fluffy statement that "There is no indication that this was a terrorist attack." Seemingly before the shock wave from the explosion has even subsided. Oh, and there was that ANTHRAX thing.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:58 AM
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33. As long as bush does what Osama wants there will be none.
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